112 Montreal Rd & 314 Gardner St | 29\53\89\116m | 8\16\28\37f | Site Prep

[Arcologist]

There's an easy solution to the problem. All the developer has to do is return to the original design, but with the reviewed heights. Bingo, proposal instantly becomes better than either of the previous versions.

[rocketphish]

Developer adds extra building, more units to proposed Vanier development

By: OBJ staff
Published: Jul 9, 2021 5:14pm EDT

An Ottawa developer has redrawn its plans for a multi-tower residential project near Montreal Road and the Vanier Parkway.

Manor Park Management originally filed a proposal with the city last year to build three highrises with a total of 591 residential apartments at 112 Montreal Rd. and 314 Gardner St. That plan called for two 19-storey buildings as well as a 16-storey highrise along with a three-storey underground parking garage with spaces for 787 vehicles.

The original proposal also featured nearly 2,200 square feet of commercial space to “animate” a central courtyard.

After receiving comments from the community, Manor Park recently submitted a revised proposal that would see four buildings with a total of 870 residential units constructed on the site.

The project would include two 30-storey towers fronting on to the Vanier Parkway as well as another 20-storey highrise and an eight-storey building with ground-floor commercial space facing Montreal Road. A three-level underground garage would include 856 parking spaces, and an additional 29 surface-level parking spots would be reserved for visitors.

The current Official Plan limits buildings on most of the property to 18 storeys. The developer is proposing to build a public basketball court on the east side of the site along Gardner Street as a community benefit in return for being allowed to construct taller highrises.

The property was previously home to a motel that was demolished in 2019. The Esso gas station at the southwest corner of the intersection is not part of the development application.

This is not the first time that a developer has proposed highrises for the site.

In 2016, DCR Phoenix presented plans that included six residential buildings ranging from six to 18 storeys. While that proposal had the support of the area’s BIA, some residents expressed concerns about the impact of the additional vehicle traffic.

https://www.obj.ca/index.php/article...roposed-vanier

[rocketphish]

October 2021 update:

The heights have changed from 30\30\20\8 stories to 35\30\15\8 stories, and the designs have been updated. More greenspace. Smaller podium balconies. More dark brick. Looking more and more like all the other RLA buildings around town. The height variation is nice though.

https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applica...1-0006/details


Siteplan:




Renderings:

[RideauRat]

really nice height variation, can't wait to see this area from east montreal road

[SL123]

I like the courtyard part!

[rocketphish]

Here is the proposed access point from Palace Street (which, it turns out, is one-way southbound):

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Mas...7i16384!8i8192

Man, that is one sketchy looking little enclave. Hopefully this proposal would result in some redevelopment along here, like they've done at #318.

[ponyboycurtis]

Ottawa's skyline is going to resemble a soup bowl!

Like a reverse Uno card or something.

The upper parts of these buildings seem identical to the South Keys post the other day. The design could work if the materials and workmanship are there.

Happy to see 35 floor eh! woot!

[J.OT13]

Wish the parking garage entrance was on the north access roads and surface parking was eliminated, but overall, not bad. Plain architecture, but as others have said, good to see height variation.

[J.OT13]

Bit of background on the project and developer from Le Droit.

Un bâtisseur qui a Vanier à cœur

JEAN-FRANÇOIS DUGAS, 27 novembre 2021
Le Droit

Lalit Aggarwal n’est pas un simple promoteur cherchant à s’enrichir dans un quartier avec plein de potentiel. C’est un gars de la place, en quelque sorte.

L’homme de 45 ans s’y rend depuis son enfance et œuvre professionnellement à Vanier. Selon lui, ses projets immobiliers résidentiels visent à embellir le quartier d’Ottawa et non d’y aménager «des jungles de béton».

«Ce n’est pas comme si j’arrivais de nulle part. Je visite le quartier depuis plus de 40 ans. Mon pédiatre était ici. Mon père appartenait des propriétés également et je lui donnais un coup de main pour l’entretien», note le président de l’entreprise immobilière Manor Park Management.

Aujourd’hui, il y fait carrière en dirigeant l’entreprise immobilière familiale. «Bref, l’intérêt pour Vanier n’est pas soudain.»

D’ailleurs, le siège social se trouve dans les bureaux du 150, chemin de Montréal, le même qui abrite le Pharmaprix. Pour s’ancrer davantage dans la communauté, il a acheté cet édifice en 2010.

«Mais pour l’instant, nous n’avons aucun plan de modifier le site», assure-t-il.


Le site du projet immobilier est visible depuis l’artère principale du quartier, derrière le Tim Hortons à l’intersection de la promenade Vanier.
LE DROIT, ÉTIENNE RANGER

Au lieu, d’autres projets le tiennent occupé au quotidien. Un de ceux-ci se bâtit actuellement sur l’avenue Greensway est visible depuis l’artère principale du quartier, derrière le Tim Hortons à l’intersection de la promenade Vanier.

C’est toutefois son projet de 400 à 500 millions qui semble l’enthousiasmer particulièrement. Quatre immeubles totalisant 900 logements sont proposés pour le 112, chemin de Montréal, tout près de la même intersection. Son emplacement, près de l’entrée de Vanier du pont Cummings et du centre-ville d’Ottawa pourrait, espère-t-il, attirer les gens cherchant à s’établir dans un centre-ville, frôlant déjà la pleine capacité.

«Nous avons observé beaucoup de changements sur la rue Rideau et au fur et à mesure que l’endroit s’est bâti, les espaces se sont remplis. J’espère et j’attends de voir comment cela affectera Vanier, car la demande pour un lieu central est grande.»

Le projet immobilier de M. Aggarwal suit son cours à l’hôtel de ville. Le dossier doit revenir devant le comité d’urbanisme d’Ottawa en début d’année. Les résidents ont été consultés. Leur porte-parole, l’Association communautaire de Vanier, appuie aussi le projet.

Si tout se déroule comme prévu, la construction du premier bâtiment pourrait voir le jour dans «trois ou quatre» ans, dit le promoteur. L’ensemble du projet s’étalerait sur une douzaine d’années. Le type de logis, par exemple les logements abordables, reste à être déterminé.

Recette du succès

«Tout est sur la table. C’est certain toutefois qu’on veut éviter de bâtir une jungle de béton, lance M. Aggarwal. Nous voulons aller au-delà des exigences minimums de zonage. Nous sommes d’avis que les communautés à succès ont du logement mixte.»

Le principal intéressé croit d’ailleurs que Vanier a beaucoup à offrir. «La ville s’est tellement étalée au fil des ans qu’un quartier comme Vanier a été oublié. C’est maintenant au tour de Vanier et nous avons un rôle à jouer.»

https://www.ledroitfranco.com/2021/1...f4ef62a60e3442

[J.OT13]

Recommended for approval by Planning Committee.

https://twitter.com/KatePorterCBC/st...C-raqWrNkpAAAA

[waterloowarrior]

Site plan app
https://v2.ottwatch.ca/devapp/D07-12-22-0138


Establish a four (4)-building complex including one 8-storey mixed building fronting onto Montreal Road, one 16-storey building located internal to the site, a 37-storey building fronting onto the Vanier Parkway, and a 28-storey building fronting onto the Vanier Parkway. Phase 1 will incorporate the establishment of the 8-storey Mixed-Use Building fronting onto Montreal Road (“Building A”) and the 37-storey apartment building fronting onto the Vanier Parkway (“Tower B1”).

[OTSkyline]

Links are broken right now but it looks like the same density but a slight redistribution of heights;

Building 1; stays 8fl
Building 2; increases from 15fl to 16ft
Building 3; decreases from 30fl to 28fl
Building 4; increases from 35fl to 37fl

Wow, 37fl in Vanier. Wonder what the exact height will be and how this will comp to our existing tall towers in Ottawa. Top 5?

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

Site plan app
https://v2.ottwatch.ca/devapp/D07-12-22-0138


Establish a four (4)-building complex including one 8-storey mixed building fronting onto Montreal Road, one 16-storey building located internal to the site, a 37-storey building fronting onto the Vanier Parkway, and a 28-storey building fronting onto the Vanier Parkway. Phase 1 will incorporate the establishment of the 8-storey Mixed-Use Building fronting onto Montreal Road (“Building A”) and the 37-storey apartment building fronting onto the Vanier Parkway (“Tower B1”).

Originally Posted by OTSkyline

Links are broken right now but it looks like the same density but a slight redistribution of heights;

Building 1; stays 8fl
Building 2; increases from 15fl to 16ft
Building 3; decreases from 30fl to 28fl
Building 4; increases from 35fl to 37fl

Wow, 37fl in Vanier. Wonder what the exact height will be and how this will comp to our existing tall towers in Ottawa. Top 5?

Wonder what has prompted this revised plan. Hope they were able to purchase the gas station on the corner. Whatever the reason, good to see even more variety in height.

[kwoldtimer]

The west end of Vanier is going to be some dense a few years from now.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

The west end of Vanier is going to be some dense a few years from now.

And no transit improvements planned... ever.

Mind boggling how Rideau-Montreal, which was always a dense corridor, but could become the densest corridor in Ottawa within a few years (if it's not already) is on no one's radar for rail.

[Phileas]

Seems I do not have access to the hyperlink and attachment - do I need to register ?

[waterloowarrior]

Originally Posted by Phileas

Seems I do not have access to the hyperlink and attachment - do I need to register ?

It usually takes a day or so from when the documents appear on Devapps til when they are available to download - so try again tomorrow

[rocketphish]

Operation Bait & Switch is now complete.

New heights: 29\53\89\116m | 8\16\28\37f

Development application:
https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applica...2-0138/details

[waterloowarrior]

That is a lot of grey precast

[Harley613]

Could be Aluminum Composite Panels (over precast)...I'm really glad to see a few acres of Charcoal brick subtracted from this one, regardless of what it is. If we have to see so many cheap designs in Ottawa, I only ask that there be some differentiation in the materials and/or colour pallet used. Better differentiation in heights in this area is also a huge upgrade.