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They want big ideas, just not the idea of turning it into a national park.
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They want big ideas, just not the idea of turning it into a national park.
"more greenspace".
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Why Gatineau Park has never been taken over by Parks Canada is beyond me. The NCC should focus on delivering on some of their ambitions underway - like Lebreton before trying to further destroy anything else.
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Why Gatineau Park has never been taken over by Parks Canada is beyond me. The NCC should focus on delivering on some of their ambitions underway - like Lebreton before trying to further destroy anything else.
I don't think Parks Canada would be interested in Gatineau Park, or at least it would be way down in their priorities. In terms of calibre it's more like a provincial park plus. Parks Canada bases its parks on natural regions and the Capital sits on the cusp of region 19 and 29, both of which already have three parks each, while a dozen regions still don't have any.

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Because the goal is to represent each of Canada’s 39 terrestrial natural regions in the national parks system, efforts to create new parks are concentrated on those natural regions that do not have a national park. In these regions, studies are carried out to identify areas worth consideration. To qualify, such areas must first contain a good representation of the natural features and processes characterising the region, including its wildlife, vegetation, geology and landforms. The second criterion is that human impact should be minimal; that is, the area should be in a natural state.
National Historic Site designation is a different thing, I believe Kingsmere already has one.
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Why Gatineau Park has never been taken over by Parks Canada is beyond me. The NCC should focus on delivering on some of their ambitions underway - like Lebreton before trying to further destroy anything else.
The federal government doesn't own most of the land.
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Gatineau Park Master Plan Meetings

Public Consultation in Pontiac
Monday, May 7, 2018 at 6:00 pm - 8:00 pm
Luskville Community Centre, 2024 Highway 148

Public Consultation in La Pêche
Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 6:00 pm - 8:00 pm
Complexe sportif de La Pêche, Desjardins Room, 20 Raphaël Road

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NCC considering overnight closures of Gatineau Park parkways
Changes considered as part of master plan for the park

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Posted: Nov 21, 2018 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: November 21




Driving through Gatineau Park could come with a curfew in the future, as the National Capital Commission considers updating its master plan.

The NCC launched a survey on Tuesday to consult the public on a number of ideas, including possible changes to Camp Fortune, putting some restrictions on large events in the park and closing its parkways at night.

"This last year, there have been serious incidents involving crashes, speed and we have had feedback from a lot of people that speed is an issue," ​said Christie Spence, director of Québec urban lands and Gatineau Park with the NCC

In May, a man and woman in their early 20s died when their car crashed into trees along the Champlain Parkway near the Huron Lookout.

Spence said they have already had some consultations on the issue and most people have been receptive of the change.

"We have had issues with vandalism," she said.

"We have had issues with partying and littering that happen after hours, so we are hoping that would address some of those issues."

Details like exactly when the parkway would close would have to be figured out if the policy goes ahead, she said.

Another issue the survey mentions is the number of events held in the park each year.

Spence said they want to hear from the public about what events fit best within the park.

"We can see a future in the near term where we are going to have too many requests," she said.

Events can cause road closures and Spence said that can mean some parts of the park are off limits to drivers.

"We are here for everybody so we want to make it available to all Canadians," she said.

"We want to make sure we are not cutting off access to certain people."

The survey also asks for opinions on what happens at Camp Fortune.

The ski hill has a long-term lease and Spence said they have some ideas on how to tie it into the park more closely.

The NCC's goal for most of the park is to keep it as natural as possible, she said, but Camp Fortune is set aside for more high-intensity uses.

The NCC envisions it possibly becoming more of a place for races and other events all year long, as ski seasons may shorten because of climate change.

The survey is available on the NCC's website and will remain open until Dec. 10.

The complete master plan for Gatineau Park is expected sometime in 2019.

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The federal government doesn't own most of the land.
The federal government does own most of the land. Not sure if they own the sub-surface rights though, which is required for a national park.

"The park is 98 per cent public property, owned mostly by the NCC, with a minority stake held by the Quebec government. However, 605 hectares are privately owned. The NCC said it is working on an inventory of that land and so it can identify which properties it could acquire."

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I don't think Parks Canada would be interested in Gatineau Park, or at least it would be way down in their priorities. In terms of calibre it's more like a provincial park plus. Parks Canada bases its parks on natural regions and the Capital sits on the cusp of region 19 and 29, both of which already have three parks each, while a dozen regions still don't have any.
Almost half of those dozen unrepresented regions are in Quebec. Very difficult to get the Quebec government to relinquish any lands to the feds.

And several of the represented regions have multiple national parks.
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The federal government does own most of the land. Not sure if they own the sub-surface rights though, which is required for a national park.

"The park is 98 per cent public property, owned mostly by the NCC, with a minority stake held by the Quebec government. However, 605 hectares are privately owned. The NCC said it is working on an inventory of that land and so it can identify which properties it could acquire."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...-park-1.697875
Public ownership and NCC ownership are not the same. Besides the private owners, the province and municipalities own a lot of the land. Other sections are leased out on long term leases or used by the federal government for purposes not related to the park.
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Summertime alpine luge may be coming to Camp Fortune

Tom Spears, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: April 5, 2019




Camp Fortune is hoping to add a new summertime ride: a single-person alpine luge which would run down a monorail track between the Clifford and Marshall ski runs.

It would be similar to a luge recently opened at Mount Revelstoke Resort, which reaches a top speed of 42 km/h. The Revelstoke ride is called the Pipe Mountain Coaster.

Construction could take place this summer and fall, though the National Capital Commission needs to give permission first. The matter is on the NCC’s agenda for its meeting of April 11.

Peter Suderman, the co-owner of Camp Fortune, said people would buy a one-day ticket to go up and down the hill using the Clifford chair lift, just as skiers do. He has not set prices yet.

The Revelstoke video shows that a rider sits upright on the cart, belted in, and can apply the brakes. Suderman said there are also built-in controls to prevent the cart from going too fast.

It is designed to wind back and forth while going downhill. The vertical drop is about 130 metres, or 400 feet.

Suderman said the ride “would mitigate our dependence on winter revenue.

“It would be kind of meandering out onto the ski runs and back into the woods (between them) so it would be a nice ride. It’s not coming straight down.”

There would be an environmental assessment first.

The track does not have a permanent foundation so it can be removed from the ski hills later.

He hopes to have the ride running next year for the 100th anniversary of Camp Fortune. The whole project would take about six months to build — much less time than the capital’s other light rail project.

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I think they have something like that at Mont Saint Sauveur as well.
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Summer luge run approved for Camp Fortune, more trails for Gatineau Park

Tom Spears, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: April 11, 2019


A luge run is coming to Camp Fortune, and the chair of the National Capital Commission says it will make the capital “a funner place.”

The luge will run back and forth between the Clifford and Marshall ski runs at Fortune. The NCC approved the plan at its meeting Thursday.

Riders will sit on a cart that runs on a single aluminum rail which is 30 centimetres above the ground. It is equipped with brakes.

“I’m enthused. I will be keen to be going down that hill as fast as you can take me,” said the NCC’s chair, Marc Seaman.

In 2011 the NCC turned down a proposed “alpine coaster” which was a larger ride. It would have sat on permanent concrete foundations, while the new luge will be on metal pieces that can be removed and stored. Part of the luge ride will go out onto the existing ski runs and must be removed for the winter. The rest of the ride will go through the trees between the ski runs.

Asked about the eight-year wait to get a ride approved, Fortune’s co-owner Peter Suderman said: “I guess patience is everything.”

The ride is scheduled for construction late this summer and fall, to open next year — during Fortune’s centennial.

The NCC also decided Wednesday to add 16.5 kilometres to its official Gatineau Park trails, all in the eastern area of the park between Cross Loop Road and parking lot 17. These will be open for year-round use.

The problem is that although there are some 200 km of approved trails already, visitors have created more than 300 km of “unofficial” trails.

These cause three problems: They can threaten endangered wildlife which the NCC is legally bound to protect; they may threaten sensitive landscapes; and they break up large wild areas into smaller ones, a process known as fragmentation.

Tobi Nussbaum, the NCC’s new CEO, said the reasoning “has a lot to do with ecological integrity. We really want to guide users to places where there is lower environmental impact.

“The important thing is that we have worked very, very closely with these user groups and we’re hopeful that will reap some benefits.”

NCC officials said that blocking off the unofficial trails alone is not enough, because people open them up again. They are hoping that talking to groups who use the trails — explaining the threats to the park while also offering some new official trails — will persuade most of them to stick to approved routes.

Nussbaum said that although the park has conservation officers, he does not expect a heavy-handed approach to enforcement.

It was Nussbaum’s first public meeting since taking office in February.

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NCC releases draft plan to guide future use of Gatineau Park
Plan calls for reducing unofficial trail network, conserving sensitive habitats, ecosystems

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Posted: Aug 30, 2020 12:00 PM ET | Last Updated: August 30


The National Capital Commission's (NCC) newly released draft master plan for Gatineau Park emphasizes conservation, while at the same time encouraging park users to engage in outdoor activities that are environmentally-friendly.

The plan, released Friday, calls for reducing the number of unofficial hiking trails and limiting development to protect sensitive habitats and ecosystems.

It also outlines a strategy to expand the park's boundaries by integrating adjacent NCC-owned land into its territory.

The draft plan was developed after a three-year consultation process where the NCC sought feedback from a wide range of stakeholders, including the park's users, representatives from local Indigenous communities, elected officials and special interest groups.

If the plan is approved by the commission's board, it will guide the long-term planning, use, and management of the sprawling green space for at least the next decade.

The public can submit feedback about the 119-page draft plan until Sept. 20 on the NCC website, after which the commission will work to finalize the plan with the goal of approving it by Jan. 2021.

The plan's four main goals are conservation, offering experiences in nature, promoting equitable and sustainable access, and fostering engagement and collaboration with park users.

"People are seeking natural experiences in the park. They want the park to remain natural, to conserve the wildlife, fauna, flora," said NCC senior manager Catherine Verreault. "They want to see transportation options to get to the park and within the park as well."

The plan stresses the importance of maintaining "ecological corridors" — largely forested areas that allow animals to move between different areas of the park.

It also looks to reduce the fragmentation of natural habitats created by trails, roads or recreational facilities.

With these goals in mind, Verreault said the plan calls for maintaining the same level of development in the park that currently exists.

Verreault said that means neither expanding the number of trails and roads the park currently has, nor its current infrastructure.

"When we open something, [we would] close something else that is maybe less used or that can be in conflict with sensitive habitats."

The master plan would ban the use of drones in the park, except when used by park officials. It would also close parkways at night to help reduce light and noise pollution and prohibit nighttime events that may be noisy or require lighting.

The draft plan does include a number of strategic projects, such as construction of new visitor centres at Luskville and the Relais Plein Air.

Facilities at the Lac Philippe campground are due for an upgrade and Camp Fortune would become the starting point for a network of trails connecting different parts of the park which could be used for mountain biking, cross-country skiing and hiking.

The plan calls for increased parking at the edges of the park, but states that other transportation options should be considered before more parking is added. One thing the plan does say is that there should not be any more parking added to areas near the Gatineau, Champlain and Fortune Lake parkways.

Under the proposed Responsible Trail Management initiative, park organizers would integrate 100 km of "informal trails" — those created by park users but which aren't maintained by the NCC — into the park's official trail network, while simultaneously closing more than 200 km of other informal trails. The park currently has 200km of official trails, but 530km of unofficial trails.

"The problems with those trails is that they were not built by the NCC and a lot of time they will cross sensitive habitats or designated species at risk habitat," said Verreault. "Those places we have to protect by law."

The NCC also plans to review the park's fee structure and improve data collection about visitor's experiences.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...park-1.5704286
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They really need to clean up the entrance to Gatineau Park - those run down buildings and dirty sidewalks directly in front of it on Tache look terrible
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NCC board: Tram preference on Wellington, new pathways at LeBreton Flats, master plan for Gatineau Park

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: Jan 21, 2021 • 50 minutes ago • 4 minute read


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Master plan sets direction for Gatineau Park

A long-term plan is locked in for the crown jewel of the capital region, with the NCC interested in spreading the visitors across Gatineau Park and limiting car traffic.

Nussbaum said it’s important to take pressure off the busy Chelsea sector by encouraging people to check out other parts of the 361-square-kilometre park.

The NCC oversees 98 per cent of the land in the park. One per cent is under private interests and another one per cent are managed by the province or a municipality.

Work on the latest Gatineau Park master plan started in fall 2017. The overarching goal was to conserve nature, but also encourage recreational and cultural experiences and promote equitable and sustainable access.

Nussbuam said the new plan strikes a balance between having a conservation park and allowing recreational activities.

The NCC is keen on exploring public transit options for accessing Gatineau Park and reducing the number of vehicles.

During the board’s vote on the plan, Victor Brunette abstained after voicing concerns about the lack of input from forestry experts.

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NCC is going to start a wheelchair accessible shuttle this summer to points in Gatineau Park from downtown for those without a vehicle. (Nussbaum says shuttles used in past for fall colours). #OttNews



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NCC will no longer allow vehicles on some Gatineau Park roads
Petition calls on NCC to restore vehicle access to pre-pandemic levels, calls plan 'discriminatory'

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Posted: May 06, 2022 3:24 PM ET | Last Updated: 3 hours ago




A petition calls on the National Capital Commission to restore vehicle access to Gatineau Park to pre-pandemic levels, but the National Capital Commission says it's not reversing course even as life returns to normal.

Since the spring of 2020, the NCC has closed some of its busiest parkways to vehicles from May to fall, opening them up for active uses such as cycling, running, in-line skating and roller skiing.

This ran on a trial basis in response to the COVID-19 pandemic, with vehicles banned all day, every day. A couple months into the plan, the NCC modified the pilot to allow vehicles on Sunday afternoons.

The 2021 version of the pilot opened parkways to vehicles after 1 p.m., and until 30 minutes past sunset on Wednesdays, Saturdays and Sundays.

The pilot continues this year on the same schedule as in 2021, but with the addition of a free weekend shuttle service starting in late June.

Some of Gatineau Park's more popular attractions are affected, including Pink Lake; the Champlain, Fortune Lake, Heron and Étienne Brûlé lookouts; Mulvahill and Bourgeois lakes; and Waterfall, Lauriault and King Mountain trails.

As of Friday, more than 3,000 people had signed an online petition calling on the NCC to end the vehicle ban, calling it "discriminatory."

Ala' Qadi says he started the petition because he believes it's unfair parkways are limited to "active users."

Qadi, who runs an Ottawa-Gatineau hiking group, said many people who enjoy the park aren't physically able to bike or hike all the way to their destinations in the park.

The restrictions limit people's ability to drive to some parking lots and give themselves a shorter hike.

"Why are we favouring these so-called active users over seniors, families, people with disabilities?" Qadi said. "We are active users [too], we're active users using the park, not the pavement."

Removing vehicle access to some roads was done to provide more space for people to exercise during the pandemic, but it also aligns with the NCC's recent Gatineau Park master plan approved in 2021.

Fewer vehicles in the park is better for the environment, for the animals that live in the park, and is safer for park users, said Catherine Verreault, the NCC's director of Quebec urban lands and Gatineau Park, in an interview Friday.

"It's clear that the path we're taking now is to reduce the use of cars in the park, and we want to promote active transportation, so we will not go back," Verreault said.

The NCC is exploring other ways for people to access the area, including e-bike rentals and the shuttle system, and Verreault said the NCC hopes people will try those new ways to access the park and provide feedback.

"The schedule we are proposing this year is not final. We always want to improve and to give a very good user experience to Gatineau Park users," she

The accessible, free shuttle service will run on Saturdays and Sundays from June 25 to Aug. 28 on a first-come, first-served basis, according to the NCC.

It will run every 30 minutes from Ottawa-Gatineau to the Gatineau Park Visitor Centre in Chelsea, Que., with the first departure at 9:10 a.m. and the last at 4:45 p.m. Each shuttle will be equipped with a bike rack.

Stops include Wellington/Lyon on the Ottawa side of the river, and then the Canadian Museum of History, rue Montcalm, the park's south entrance (P3), Pink Lake Lookout, Mackenzie King Estate, Lauriault/Mulvihill, King Mountain, Champlain Lookout, Camp Fortune and the Visitor Centre in Quebec.

With files from Kristy Nease and Michelle Allan

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...cess-1.6443962
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