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Old Posted Oct 3, 2016, 5:00 PM
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US Steel Canada to be sold to Bedrock Industries.
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Old Posted Nov 1, 2016, 11:27 PM
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Bedrock Industries reaches deal to buy U.S. Steel Canada

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilt...sale-1.3831872

American Company Bedrock Industries Group has reached a deal to buy beleaguered U.S. Steel Canada, U.S. Steel announced today.

The sale is subject to court approvals.

In a statement, provincial minister of finance Charles Sousa called the move an important step towards the former Stelco's restructuring that will "save jobs, protect pensions and assist in providing post-employment benefits for active and retired employees at USSC's Hamilton and Lake Erie facilities."

The agreement comes as the latest in a lengthy restructuring and court process that continues to roll on — and one that is certainly not complete.

While the province has a rosy outlook about the news, the steelworker's union has a decidedly bleaker one.

Bedrock is a private equity investment firm that buys distressed companies and restructures them. The company and the province announced a memorandum of understanding back in September.

Steelworkers Local 1005 president Gary Howe told CBC News that the union is not looking at this news positively.

"It's interesting that two American companies are negotiating in secret to purchase a Canadian company," he said. "Meanwhile, the pensioners are going to take the hit.

"This whole process is not geared towards workers or people, it's geared towards making money."

U.S. Steel Corp. purchased the struggling Stelco in 2007. The sale involved a private agreement with the federal government that USW and Hamilton city officials have long feared would eventually hurt pensioners.

In 2014, citing millions in losses, U.S. Steel Canada (USSC) entered bankruptcy protection under the Companies Creditors Arrangement Act (CCAA).

The memorandum of understanding that the province signed off on with Bedrock back in September lays out mostly confidential terms for restructuring that might be permitted for the company.

The union says that it has not seen the details of that deal, and is once again in the dark.

In his statement, Sousa said that all details will remain confidential "until they can be released pursuant to a court process."

Howe says he expects the court process for the sale and what it will mean for local pensioners to continue well into 2017.
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Old Posted Dec 1, 2016, 8:11 PM
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Stelco name to return

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/69...ame-to-return/

U.S. Steel Canada is changing its name back to Stelco, a union official says.

The company plans to hoist a Stelco flag Friday at its Hamilton plant in the morning and Lake Erie Works later that afternoon, according to Bill Ferguson, head of steelworkers union Local 8782 that represent Lake Erie workers.

Ferguson said he welcomed the development.

He said it was "worst kept secret in the world. Everyone knew it was coming down.

"I welcome it. Going back to the name Stelco gives us that independence."

However, he said, it does not mean a deal is in place to bring the company out of creditor protection. Talks with Bedrock Industries continue, and workers' pensions and benefits have still not been resolved, according to Ferguson and Gary Howe, the head of Local 1005 that represents workers in Hamilton.

The news comes after U.S. Steel was granted an extension of its Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act (CCAA) protection in a Toronto court.
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Old Posted Dec 1, 2016, 8:12 PM
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I suppose I should rename this thread from" Goodbye Stelco" to "Welcome Back, Stelco"
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I suppose I should rename this thread from" Goodbye Stelco" to "Welcome Back, Stelco"
How about "Hey, how's it going Stelco? Nice to see you again. Staying long?"
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Old Posted Dec 2, 2016, 4:08 PM
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Buh bye US Steel and welcome back Stelco


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Old Posted Dec 2, 2016, 5:13 PM
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Although I welcome the employment that's coming back to the city, I'm not looking forward to the return of billowing smoke stacks - especially when it blows into the city.
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Although I welcome the employment that's coming back to the city, I'm not looking forward to the return of billowing smoke stacks - especially when it blows into the city.
This is just a public relations manoeuvre on the part of U.S. Steel.

What becomes of the plants and all that land is still TBD, but if steel works are still going to be part of that I think they'll be limited and specialized.

The land itself holds a lot of value, contamination notwithstanding, especially to the port authority.

There's a win-win in all this somewhere. Maybe that's a naive opinion, but I feel it.
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Old Posted Dec 3, 2016, 3:20 AM
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Most of the Hamilton Stelco property has been sitting unsused for a while so it's not like they can just start production again without substantial infrastructure updates, I think the last time they actually MADE steel here was 5+ years ago.

A lot of wishful thinking happens anytime there is an announcement(and rightfully so) but the land is worth more than the buildings sitting on it at this point
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Most of the Hamilton Stelco property has been sitting unsused for a while so it's not like they can just start production again without substantial infrastructure updates, I think the last time they actually MADE steel here was 5+ years ago.

A lot of wishful thinking happens anytime there is an announcement(and rightfully so) but the land is worth more than the buildings sitting on it at this point
A good portion of the land was used to store blast furnace inputs. Ore. Coal & coke. Limestone.
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Old Posted Dec 3, 2016, 4:41 PM
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While I'm sure the ground is unusable there are huge sections near the harbour that used to store giant piles of slag that have been cleared out and are pretty much just giant fields at this point. I think most of Stelco's energy is going to go toward Nanticoke and Hamilton will probably get shrunk down to a much smaller footprint.
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Old Posted Dec 10, 2016, 2:31 AM
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Looks like all those brown fields in the Harbour are being dealt with and sold off, but doesn't really say how big of an area Bedrock is going to occupy.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilt...deal-1.3890575

Proposed Stelco sale to Bedrock filed with court, includes land sales to fund pensions

Stelco has officially asked to be sold to Bedrock Industries, a major milestone in a court-supervised restructuring of the company formerly known as U.S. Steel Canada.

The deal has been coming together for weeks in individual agreements between key players and Bedrock, but Friday's announcement indicates the biggest step forward toward the sale yet. The company officially filed a motion in court to ask for approval to move forward with Bedrock Industries.

Stelco public affairs director Trevor Harris called the agreement a step in the right direction, but said there's "a lot of work to be done."

"Ontario welcomes this latest development in the effort to restructure Stelco as an important step toward saving 2,100 jobs, protecting pensions and supporting economic development in the Hamilton region while ensuring environmental protection," said the province's minister of finance, Charles Sousa, in a statement.

Key elements in the plan, according to the province, include:

Operations continue at both the Hamilton and Lake Erie mills
Retirees keep their pensions without reductions or interruption
Retirees continue receiving benefits
Environmental liability on the land is taken care of
The proposed deal has support, with some conditions, from the union representing steelworkers and pensioners in Lake Erie, Local 8782 and 8782(b). But that local still hasn't settled its concerns about pensions and benefits.

Neither has Local 1005, which called the plan "smoke and mirrors."

"It's a very lean deal for us but who it's a good deal for is the province and U.S. Steel," said Local 1005 president Gary Howe.

Land trust for brownfield lands

One big part of the deal involves setting up a land trust for the brownfield contaminated lands next to Stelco's current operations in Hamilton. Under the proposed deal, Bedrock would pay the province about $80 million toward covering the costs of environmental cleanup on those lands, according to a source close to the file.

Then, the lands will be sold for development, ideally taking advantage of increased value due to interested buyers not having to take on the environmental liability for their cleanup.

The proceeds of that sale will go to fund pensions and benefits, according to the province.

The province plans to put $10 million toward getting the land trust off the ground, and then lend another $66 million toward making sure the benefits are covered even if it takes several years to get the land ready for sale.
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Old Posted Dec 10, 2016, 3:35 AM
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http://www.thespec.com/news-story/70...save-pensions/


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Bedrock Industries is poised to take over a floundering U.S. Steel Canada, with the announcement Friday of a potentially historic purchase agreement, driving what some see as a spike of hope into the long dreary saga of Stelco's decline.

But Mayor Fred Eisenberger, for one, has serious concerns. The City was shut out of the process, even though it has skin in the game.

Legal and union membership approvals must be secured. But the agreement document, some 4,000 pages long, was filed Friday in court, a start along the process. The deal, involving tens of millions of dollars and assurances around pensions, benefits and environmental remediation, is being hailed as a breakthrough by Ontario Finance Minister Charles Sousa.

The restructuring plan in the agreement enjoys the support of the United Steelworkers Local 8782 and 8782(B), United States Steel, Bedrock and Ontario, all subject to conditions.

Bedrock's proposal would ensure the continuation of operations at the Hamilton and Lake Erie facilities. It would guarantee uninterrupted and unreduced benefits for retirees in Stelco's four main pension plans.

The agreement, which also restores the once retired name of Stelco, puts steel company land in Hamilton into a pensioners' trust. The government of Ontario will lend money against the appreciation of the land value in the amount of $76 million. This will help shore up the benefits pool until the land value matures.

But, said Eisenberger, "It's high time we get to work with the province and not have our waterfront designed by Toronto" and an outside company (Bedrock is American), that might not understand the city's vision.

"It's a positive step that the province is working to do good things for steel in this city but we're concerned that they're doing it in the absence of consultation."

The agreement also stipulates that the company cover the province's costs incurred over environmental rehabilitation of that land, to make and keep it viable, in the amount of $61 million.

"Ontario welcomes this latest development in the effort to restructure Stelco as an important step toward saving 2,100 local jobs, protecting pensions and supporting economic development in the Hamilton region while ensuring environmental protection," said Sousa in a statement.



"We are encouraged that the proposed agreement and plan filed in court today provides a solid foundation that would help facilitate the restructuring of Stelco. Stelco remains in court-supervised creditor protection proceedings under the Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act," said Sousa.

Bedrock's website says it is a privately funded holding company focused on owning and operating metals, mining and natural resources assets.

Stelco, formerly U.S. Steel Canada, has been operating under CCAA protection since being granted an initial stay of proceedings in September of 2014. The stay period was recently extended to March 31, 2017.
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Local 1005 [...] called the plan "smoke and mirrors."

"It's a very lean deal for us but who it's a good deal for is the province and U.S. Steel," said Local 1005 president Gary Howe.
I wish the article expanded on these comments. The article says that the pensions and benefits are being saved and that the company will continue to operate. How could it be a lean deal for the union? Anyone know more?
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Old Posted Dec 11, 2016, 5:33 PM
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Pensions are covered but Hamilton will be a shell of it's former self, most of the jobs are going to be in Nanticoke.
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Province to handle contaminated land at Stelco

Hamilton Spectator
By Mark McNeil
http://www.thespec.com/news-story/70...and-at-stelco/



The provincial government says it will assume the environmental legacy of hundreds of hectares of contaminated Stelco land in the north end of Hamilton, a historic promise that is setting the stage for a new owner to take over the company.

A source close to negotiations between the American investment fund Bedrock Industries, U.S. Steel Canada (Stelco) and the provincial Ministry of Finance says Bedrock was not interested in a deal that could leave the company with astronomical cleanup costs at a future date.

Bedrock was willing to put forward $80 million in a one-time payment to help out with the cleanup of a portion of the land but did not want to subject itself to the great unknown of environmental responsibility from more than a century of steelmaking.

Contaminated land has always been a major obstacle to potential Stelco suitors or redevelopment of the property. With the province agreeing to backstop the costs — something that has never been done before in Ontario — it formed the foundation of a memorandum of understanding that could see a new owner at Stelco and redevelopment of unused lands. As one observer to the negotiations said, "it makes lands that were worthless into potentially very valuable lands."


The land deal would work like this:

• All 325 hectares of Stelco property off Wilcox Street would be turned into a land trust administered by the province, union representatives and probably other parties such as the city and the Hamilton Port Authority.

• The land trust then would lease 120 hectares back to Stelco. The company would then be able to operate without fear of costs associated with the contaminated ground it is operating on.

• The remaining 200 hectares or so would then be remediated to an industrial use standard with the contribution from Bedrock and potentially other funds. That land would then be sold or leased.

• Profits from the sale or lease would then be used to assist in shoring up pension funds for Stelco workers as well as to help finance benefits to pensioners.

The land proposal is part of a larger deal — released Friday — that will be laid out in a Toronto courtroom on Thursday as part of U.S. Steel's Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act proceedings that have been continuing for two years. If approved by the judge overseeing the process, Stelco (which recently reverted back to its historic name from being known as U.S. Steel Canada) will emerge from creditor protection under Bedrock ownership with a new lease on life.

That could happen sometime in the early months of the new year.

But one person who is unhappy with the deal so far is Gary Howe, the president of United Steelworkers Local 1005. He says far more money is needed from Bedrock for the underfunded pension plan for 1005 retirees as well as pensioners from local 8782 and 8782 (B) and non-union retirees in both Hamilton and Lake Erie.

Those four funds have more than $1 billion in solvency deficiency (with more than $800 million to 1005 pensioners alone). Solvency deficiency is the shortfall that would happen if the company goes out of business and all the workers collect their entitlement at once.

It's a problem in the hundreds of millions that would only be addressed with tens of millions in payments from Bedrock. The new owner would pay $30 million up front and $10 million a year after that for five years, with $15 million in annual payments in the years following. In addition there could be money from the land trust, but no one is sure how much that would generate.

Howe claimed the province was using "smoke and mirrors" to try to pass on the pension funding issue to a future company and for a future government to deal with.

But McMaster University business professor Marvin Ryder notes it's a work in progress and if the company stays in business, the funds on hand will be adequate to handle payments to pensioners.

"Is this a perfect deal? No. But it does do an awful lot and there are no guarantees that we will not be back down this road in the future," Ryder said.

A spokesperson for Bedrock was not available for comment. But Ryder said it is clear Bedrock will inevitably flip Stelco a few years down the line, hoping to make a good profit on an operation it had pulled from the brink.

Mayor Fred Eisenberger said he was concerned about the deal being negotiated without the involvement of the City of Hamilton.

"Planning about us, without us, is never a good thing," Eisenberger said.

"Our concerns are that we get our tax dollars ... Is this going to lead to the best benefit for pensioners and is it going to lead to land value and land uses that will fit with our future economic development initiatives?"
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Old Posted Jun 6, 2017, 1:36 AM
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This is what the city has in mind for the unused U.S. Steel land. They'll vote whether to move toward this today
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Having a cleaned up/more accessible waterfront would be amazing!
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