Regina Construction IV

[McBean]

Originally Posted by Stormer

Source?

His son, with loose lips, that works at scotiabank.

[The mayor]

Originally Posted by one_brick_at_a_time

Really happy it looks like Downtown will be the main pushed location…

“We also recognize that the development of a future library is intended to happen downtown and will generate somewhere between 750,000 and a million visitors downtown; add to that to the potential 500,000 to 600,000 visitors that a new event centre might create, we think that those two projects have a transformational impact on the future of our downtown,” he said. “Then the last piece to it, we also believe that it’s likely the location where we have the best ability to build a true entertainment district in the heart of our city.”

I wonder which location there looking at

[The mayor]

Originally Posted by djforsberg

We need a new central library and a new arena, but for God sakes please don't put them together.

I wonder what this would look like if well put together?

[gecho111]

SaskPower wants another 100MW of solar of the "you build we buy the full output for 25 years" variety.
https://www.merx.com/solicitations/o...FSQ/0000227571

[one_brick_at_a_time]

Originally Posted by The mayor

I wonder what this would look like if well put together?

Unless the two facilities are just next to each other downtown.

[HomeInMyShoes]

I'd like the library to keep the geographic location they have. If they need extra space, we should work on getting Canada Tax Services a new location and they can have all that footprint for the new library structure. Keep the Masons building which I know has been part of the discussions previously for a larger footprint.

I can't think of any other central location that makes as much sense for the library. Close to all the transit routes and on Victoria Park. It even has decent street parking.

Arena I would probably slot between 11th and 12th and Rose and Broad. Lots of me wants it on the other side of Broad Street onto Osler with some restaurant and retail space built in at ground level to help the transition into the Chinatown area. That makes some logical sense.

But we don't have money for this right now.

[djforsberg]

Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes

I'd like the library to keep the geographic location they have. If they need extra space, we should work on getting Canada Tax Services a new location and they can have all that footprint for the new library structure. Keep the Masons building which I know has been part of the discussions previously for a larger footprint.

I can't think of any other central location that makes as much sense for the library. Close to all the transit routes and on Victoria Park. It even has decent street parking.

Arena I would probably slot between 11th and 12th and Rose and Broad. Lots of me wants it on the other side of Broad Street onto Osler with some restaurant and retail space built in at ground level to help the transition into the Chinatown area. That makes some logical sense.

But we don't have money for this right now.

We don't have money to house the homeless, to provide safe injection sites, to do something about the backlog of anything to do with health (anywhere from speech therapists to surgeons to psychologists to family doctors), to provide students with a proper, high-quality education, or to provide a livable wage for the myriad of under-skilled, Crown jobs that have been privatized over the years, but I am sure the province and city will find money to fund the arena and aquatics centre. No doubt the library is added in there as a sweetener.

[The mayor]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saska...ncil-1.6510789
Regina looks at developing downtown with new sports facilities

3 facilities up for discussion could help shape downtown Regina for years to come
This is a game changer with this will come more people , and get rid of those empty lots down town

[Festivus]

When it comes to pouring concrete (whether for stadiums or roads), nothing can stand in Regina's way.

[djforsberg]

Originally Posted by Festivus

When it comes to pouring concrete (whether for stadiums or roads), nothing can stand in Regina's way.

Unless it’s a parkade for nurses and hospital patients, of course.

[one_brick_at_a_time]

Originally Posted by djforsberg

Unless it’s a parkade for nurses and hospital patients, of course.

Still boggles my mind how that has taken so long to happen.

[StealthGirl]

It's too bad the libfary couldn't move to 12th Ave on the plaza where the Novia Cafe used to be. Create something that would open onto that space.

I agree that the city is getting crazy with stars in their eyes. We have no money to fix the lead pipe problem or transit or sidewalks or a hundred other mundane needs. Oh wait, pools are now part of transit and that's why we are going to try to use our federal transit money that way.

[TMB14]

Originally Posted by StealthGirl

It's too bad the libfary couldn't move to 12th Ave on the plaza where the Novia Cafe used to be. Create something that would open onto that space.

I agree that the city is getting crazy with stars in their eyes. We have no money to fix the lead pipe problem or transit or sidewalks or a hundred other mundane needs. Oh wait, pools are now part of transit and that's why we are going to try to use our federal transit money that way.

Did they actually get permission to use the money in that way? I thought the motion was to ask the federal government if they could use the money for the pool?

They would likely have a better time asking to use the money for the Arcola Ave Corridor. They could actually use the money appropriately and create a lane just for rapid transit. But sure, a pool sounds nice...

[StealthGirl]

Originally Posted by TMB14

Did they actually get permission to use the money in that way? I thought the motion was to ask the federal government if they could use the money for the pool?

They would likely have a better time asking to use the money for the Arcola Ave Corridor. They could actually use the money appropriately and create a lane just for rapid transit. But sure, a pool sounds nice...

I don't think they've got an answer yet. They are in such a rush to do big legacy projects and it just worries me as a homeowner. We need to deal with climate change, but they seem to think just having a "sustainability goal" and "sustainability framework" but doing none of the work is enough.

[CCF]

We could save $80M by not pointlessly widening Arcola.

[Fjords]

It seems like 11th/12th/Rose/Broad is the block everyone's leaning to, but alternatively I would see them considering:

• Demolition of Canada Post Building & Place on Sask Drive
• 11th/12th/Osler/Broad

There are many benefits to the Sask Drive option: Direct connection to Casino & Show Lounge, Creation of a 2nd story jump point for the pedestrian overpass to the Railyards, Creation of the "Entertainment District" that REAL speaks of, Hides the ugly rail lines from downtown visitors.

My concern would be the stadium would have to be a unique, skinny design with steep seating in order to fit on the lot. I could see the sidewalk and the parking lane along Sask Drive needing to be removed in order to make this happen. Is it out of the range of possibility? I don't think so. Just some unique challenges.

The benefits I would see going for the second option: Possibility of a pedway connecting the stadium to the Double Tree via the Path cowork building. The Hilton group would gain a clear advantage as the hotel of choice for out of towners & visiting teams coming to play in Regina. As they did with the Police HQ, 12th could even be permanently closed and the two lots connected to create a continuous block of buildings from 11th to Vic. This block is also less likely to be developed into anything, anytime soon. The city artificially removes an undevelopable eyesore.

The 11th/12th/Rose/Broad block, being more 'true' downtown core, could be left for business redevelopment that would be spurred by the stadium construction.

Just random thoughts on a Thursday morning.

[Stormer]

Originally Posted by djforsberg

We don't have money to house the homeless, to provide safe injection sites, to do something about the backlog of anything to do with health (anywhere from speech therapists to surgeons to psychologists to family doctors), to provide students with a proper, high-quality education, or to provide a livable wage for the myriad of under-skilled, Crown jobs that have been privatized over the years, but I am sure the province and city will find money to fund the arena and aquatics centre. No doubt the library is added in there as a sweetener.

We have $30 million to move the Winnipeg St. overpass 30m to the west while ignoring the adjacent rail crossing. Government priorities rarely make sense.

[High Street]

I will provide some thoughts based on some of the posts in this thread instead of replying individually about REAL's plans.

First, I understand that sports facilities aren't the most essential goods the city, province and country could buy. Making these investments doesn't directly trade-off health care or other infrastructure funds. If those things are underfunded, they result from a decision to underfund them. I could see a downtown arena sucking up parking, making transit more viable, and boosting development in some tired areas.

I am not sure there is a perfect time to make generational investments. You can't look at a one-year or five-year span and judge the success of development like an arena, aquatic centre, etc. Economic forecasts are no more accurate than horoscopes. If people know how the stock market will close at the end of the day, they should make investments to profit from that knowledge. In some areas of life, we need to look beyond an investment's one-year and five-year performance to understand its worth. I'm not very interested in the hockey arena, but the Lawson and recreational swimming need significant improvement (air quality is terrible). Getting a kid registered in swimming lessons requires waking up at 5:00 AM on the day registrations open. I see this as a significant investment in health and well-being. I have been looking to leave Regina, which is entirely based on quality of life issues and not economic opportunity.

Last, the Board of Directors from REAL is a volunteer board. None of them benefit financially from REAL. REAL is a municipal crown corporation; if it turned a profit, I suppose it would pay a dividend to the city. The books are open, audited, etc. None of the decision-makers stand to make money off their involvement in REAL. The problem REAL is trying to solve funding its maintenance and operations from buildings that frequently sit empty. None of the named people have a direct economic interest, and any agreement or transaction will be publicly transparent.

Finally, does the City of Regina still own the Capital Pointe site and does the city own the former YWCA building (I seem to recall a land swap?). I'm reasonably sure the Masons have no interest in moving.

[djforsberg]

Originally Posted by Stormer

We have $30 million to move the Winnipeg St. overpass 30m to the west while ignoring the adjacent rail crossing. Government priorities rarely make sense.

Haha the list is never ending.

[HomeInMyShoes]

Originally Posted by StealthGirl

It's too bad the libfary couldn't move to 12th Ave on the plaza where the Novia Cafe used to be. Create something that would open onto that space.

Unless the parkade is disappearing there's way more potential space on their current site. I do agree with something open onto that space, but that's not happening with the current owners of the buildings. Just a matter of time before the demo permit comes across the city's desk.