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Old Posted Jul 28, 2010, 9:53 PM
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A stampede !! or at least Rapid trasit to the PNE like they did in Calgary.
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A stampede !! or at least Rapid trasit to the PNE like they did in Calgary.
There IS a Stampede in Metro Vancouver. The Cloverdale Rodeo is the second largest rodeo in Canada. I'll admit, transit access there isn't that great either. LRT to Langley would help with that one though. The PNE doesn't suffer from transit access either. There's several major bus routes that stop near or along the way, including special shuttles from Renfrew SkyTrain to the fair grounds during The Fair.
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Just going to dig this up, since we keep rehashing Vancouver's amenities and/or lack thereof.

Not necessarily a zoo, but we could use some kind of wildlife park. Maybe a breeding program for the Interior wolves and caribou? Set it up in the UEL (take over the golf course?) and charge for admission and concessions, all proceeds going to education/awareness/activism and animal enrichment. And since the park's based on an eventual release to the wild, the animal rights crowd should be happy.
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I'm still pushing for an amusement park on a pier like in LA



The PNE has always felt 2nd class to me.
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Just going to dig this up, since we keep rehashing Vancouver's amenities and/or lack thereof.

Not necessarily a zoo, but we could use some kind of wildlife park. Maybe a breeding program for the Interior wolves and caribou? Set it up in the UEL (take over the golf course?) and charge for admission and concessions, all proceeds going to education/awareness/activism and animal enrichment. And since the park's based on an eventual release to the wild, the animal rights crowd should be happy.
Going back to the first page of this thread is like digging up a time capsule. Mr. X had some really good ideas in there, and some have actually started to happen (e.g., converting Sears not into just more shops but also into office space, or a new Art Gallery at Larwill Park).

I would love for a proper zoo to hapen within the city limits - the original suggestion in this thread was putting it in Hastings Park and moving Playland to NE False Creek, so that's not gonna happen. But a zoo and an amusement park, preferably near transit, all within the city limits would be amazing. It's just hard to imagine where it could go.
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it's 2019. There will never be a new zoo ever again

and what happened to Mr X?
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it's 2019. There will never be a new zoo ever again

and what happened to Mr X?
(Yeah, I wondered about Mr. X too)

As for zoos: yes and no. The old-school "stare at unhappy animals in a cage" model is dead and dying. But zoos as a teaching aid or as a sanctuary or rehabilitation/repopulation base, or as a mostly-fauna environment are very much thriving. Here's an interesting article about what is planned for Sacremento - basically a 21st-century zoo. Vancouver could definitely take a similar approach.
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Sydney's slated to open a zoo later this year, no protests, so the problem seems to be more about animal welfare than a general anti-captivity sentiment.

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Going back to the first page of this thread is like digging up a time capsule. Mr. X had some really good ideas in there, and some have actually started to happen (e.g., converting Sears not into just more shops but also into office space, or a new Art Gallery at Larwill Park).

I would love for a proper zoo to hapen within the city limits - the original suggestion in this thread was putting it in Hastings Park and moving Playland to NE False Creek, so that's not gonna happen. But a zoo and an amusement park, preferably near transit, all within the city limits would be amazing. It's just hard to imagine where it could go.
It's definitely interesting to see all the suggestions. Wouldn't mind an HMS Discovery replica, especially a working one; film/CGI crews could probably rent it out too.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who'd like a natural history museum; a new cultural amenity that goes with Vancouver's nature theme seems like a win-win, especially given our rich fossil and biodiversity record.

WRT available space, I believe the UBC golf course lease will expire within a decade or two. Perhaps both the zoo and museum could be built there, side by side? There's a lot of educational overlap.

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Sydney's slated to open a zoo later this year, no protests, so the problem seems to be more about animal welfare than a general anti-captivity sentiment.



It's definitely interesting to see all the suggestions. Wouldn't mind an HMS Discovery replica, especially a working one; film/CGI crews could probably rent it out too.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who'd like a natural history museum; a new cultural amenity that goes with Vancouver's nature theme seems like a win-win, especially given our rich fossil and biodiversity record.

WRT available space, I believe the golf course lease will expire within a decade or two. Perhaps both the zoo and museum could be built there, side by side? There's a lot of educational overlap.
I suspect the horsetrack is probably on the rocks so it’s a good potential site for a zoo. Alternatively the PNE still has a lot of space.
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If this is a wish list, and therefore open in nature and scope to different ideas, I'd love to see something like the De Young Museum in SF; here in Vancouver.
It would probably start of small and slowly, but in generations to come, if expanded, the collections of art from the world over accrued bit by bit, what a legacy it would be. Just suggesting.
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Here's a crazy one: airship hangar. Fast ferries, whale watching, cargo hauling, and tours of the mountains, all in one... though probably not all at the same time.
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it's 2019. There will never be a new zoo ever again

and what happened to Mr X?
probably too busy with the dailyhive now
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Here's a crazy one: airship hangar. Fast ferries, whale watching, cargo hauling, and tours of the mountains, all in one... though probably not all at the same time.
PNE site would make a good Elon Musk "boring company" entrance for a high speed tunnel to the North Shore.
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We are in a no fun city. Disney wanted to build in surrey on the river flats when all the land was for sale when ralphs went tits up. Winn wanted to be a convention center here before the olympics were awarded. Oh there was the new soccer pitch east of waterfront station. Oh and wait we still cant have open wine or beer in a park yet.

And breeding wolves? There is an open hunt on them as they are destroying the wild game in the interior.

Speaking of game saw 3 deer last night in the bog area by the truck pull out
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2019, 5:25 PM
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Meh, BC's fauna got along just fine for the 19,700+ years before the settlers showed up. I'd blame disappearing caribou on the Libs' BCTS and the NDP pandering to loggers.

Closest I can find to a Disneyland is that Garibaldi ski resort for April Fools, and we got a convention centre anyway, and the Whitecaps stadium had problems of its own - something about the stadium not fitting over the tracks.
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2019, 5:56 PM
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If a family wants to get away for the weekend in the winter and wants to stay local but does not want to take a ferry or go to whistler, there not much available especially in the eastern part of the Lower Mainland.

I can only think of Harrisson.

I think a Great Wolf Lodge would do really well in Surrey or Abbotsford.
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I'm still pushing for an amusement park on a pier like in LA



The PNE has always felt 2nd class to me.
That would be great in False Creek, (Granville Island) but again, residents who live there might think otherwise.

The PNE's status was a self inflicted wound. The Fair USED to be the busiest in the country, but that was long ago when we cared about such things. (Although to be fair, they finally have looked to change things up a bit in recent times)_
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Meh, BC's fauna got along just fine for the 19,700+ years before the settlers showed up. I'd blame disappearing caribou on the Libs' BCTS and the NDP pandering to loggers.

Closest I can find to a Disneyland is that Garibaldi ski resort for April Fools, and we got a convention centre anyway, and the Whitecaps stadium had problems of its own - something about the stadium not fitting over the tracks.
The Convention Centre we got was expensive and not as good.

His was free and was much better. Not to mention his proposal also came with a world class hotel and casino project that also would have been built on his dime. So we would have gained 3 major attractions and paid $0 for it.

Instead, we got an expensive, watered down convention centre and decades later a mediocre casino.

Bad trade off.

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Got it. Yeah, that sucks.

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That would be great in False Creek, (Granville Island) but again, residents who live there might think otherwise.

The PNE's status was a self inflicted wound. The Fair USED to be the busiest in the country, but that was long ago when we cared about such things. (Although to be fair, they finally have looked to change things up a bit in recent times)_
I dunno, I found the PNE last summer pretty lame. Or maybe that's me not liking carnivals very much.

Seconding the Granville Island pitch... assuming we can get all the industrial stuff to move out. Is Ocean Concrete even active?

EDIT: Looks like it is. That leaves the warehouse and parking lot beside them.

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