PHILADELPHIA | Broad + Pine | 202 FT | 15 FLOORS - Page 14

Nanyika · #**261** Posted **Oct 29, 2021, 4:28 AM**

I don't think the building will be "hideous." It is relatively inoffensive and should blend in okay with the surrounding buildings, though I agree that the degree of quality of materials on the facade will be important. And I like the rounded edge.

But that being said, the heavy window frames on the mansard roof really annoy me. They look like cheap toys and don't fit in with the rest of the building. If the doodads on the mansard roof were scaled back in some way, the design would look a bit more dignified.

PHL10 · #**262** Posted **Oct 29, 2021, 12:21 PM**

Maybe in the long run it won't be a bad thing but S. Broad has been attracting some odd architecture for sure.

Here's another recent example.

Scottydont · #**263** Posted **Oct 29, 2021, 1:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by PHL10

Maybe in the long run it won't be a bad thing but S. Broad has been attracting some odd architecture for sure.

Here's another recent example.

Prime example of when the renderings looked nice but the actual building material was cheap.

This re-design for Broad-Pine is disappointing since I loved the first red brick design. This new design is an improvement to the existing location, but actual material will determine the end result.

summersm343 · #**264** Posted **Oct 29, 2021, 5:04 PM**

New Plan at Broad and Pine: 91 Units + Commercial

Current site:

Renderings:

Site plan:

Read/view more here:
http://www.rising.realestate/new-pla...ts-commercial/

mja · #**265** Posted **Oct 30, 2021, 11:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

New Plan at Broad and Pine: 91 Units + Commercial

Current site:

Renderings:

Site plan:

Read/view more here:
http://www.rising.realestate/new-pla...ts-commercial/

Yikes.

TK2001 · #**266** Posted **Oct 30, 2021, 12:51 PM**

It's not fantastic, but I think it'll be an OK addition to Broad

Insoluble · #**267** Posted **Nov 1, 2021, 4:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

New Plan at Broad and Pine: 91 Units + Commercial
Read/view more here:
http://www.rising.realestate/new-pla...ts-commercial/

Just realized the new plan significantly increased the number of units from 56 to 91 while dramatically decreasing the amount of parking from obscene to just 18 spaces. I kind of don't hate it anymore even if it is awkward and ugly. Feels like the right kind of density for the Broad Street transit corridor. Hopefully the aesthetics get tweaked a bit and the materials are good, but given the functional changes this actually seems like a better use of the location than the previous design.

summersm343 · #**268** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 4:24 PM**

CDR for this one is up:

https://www.phila.gov/media/20220215...1-2022-CDR.pdf

mcgrath618 · #**269** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 4:38 PM**

I love it. I think it looks fantastic.
Please don’t kill me.

PhilliesPhan · #**270** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 4:39 PM**

I wish it were taller, but the more I look at the rendering, the more I'm starting to like this building! Ultimately, the success of this project will come down to the quality of materials. This has the potential to be a striking building if the correct materials are used, similar to the original rendering for 1900 Chestnut.

TempleGuy1000 · #**271** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 4:57 PM**

I don't hate it. My biggest problem is them using this as a reference for the mansard roof material:

skyhigh07 · #**272** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 5:45 PM**

If they got rid of the Paris Vegas mansard roof, it’d be fine...

iheartphilly · #**273** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 5:51 PM**

^
This one will definitely come down to materials and execution of craftsmanship. If done right, it will look regal and fit right in with surrounding buildings.

bdurk · #**274** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 5:52 PM**

I actually kind of enjoy the roof. Nice to see a something a bit different in Philly

skyhigh07 · #**275** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 6:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by bdurk

I actually kind of enjoy the roof. Nice to see a something a bit different in Philly

It’s essentially the same take on the Symphony House. Maybe that’s your cup of tea but I can’t think of a “modern” mansard roof on a new building anywhere that looks good. It’s pastiche.

PHLtoNYC · #**276** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 6:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by iheartphilly

^
This one will definitely come down to materials and execution of craftsmanship. If done right, it will look regal and fit right in with surrounding buildings.

After staring at the renderings for a while, that is how I feel. This could be a very attractive building IF proper and high quality materials are used. If it's the typical crap, then it will look a tackier Symphony House.

But still great to see Broad fill out further South.

Redddog · #**277** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 6:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by PHLtoNYC

After staring at the renderings for a while, that is how I feel. This could be a very attractive building IF proper and high quality materials are used. If it's the typical crap, then it will look a tackier Symphony House.

But still great to see Broad fill out further South.

Agree. It's kinda european looking. I like it.

skyhigh07 · #**278** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 6:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by Redddog

Agree. It's kinda european looking. I like it.

I’d say more Vegas/Atlantic City pastiche at this point...

It’s the same architect who brought us Symphony House.

CleetMcDougle · #**279** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 7:33 PM**

kinda like it

McBane · #**280** Posted **Feb 15, 2022, 8:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by PHLtoNYC

After staring at the renderings for a while, that is how I feel. This could be a very attractive building IF proper and high quality materials are used. If it's the typical crap, then it will look a tackier Symphony House.

But still great to see Broad fill out further South.

Agreed but do you trust Dranoff to use the quality materials necessary for a design like this to be successful? I don't. At all. I still like the original modern brick/warehouse design the best.