Provincial Economies III

[Xelebes]

This is a continuation of the previous thread. Please proceed.

[SFUVancouver]

Well this is fun, a fresh new thread. Much like the advice of a career advisor (I advise you to get a career), my two cents on the topic is that it is important to have provincial economies. Three of them, even.

[Innsertnamehere]

Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

Well this is fun, a fresh new thread. Much like the advice of a career advisor (I advise you to get a career), my two cents on the topic is that it is important to have provincial economies. Three of them, even.

let the other 7 provinces burn in hell, amiright?

The real question is - which 3 provinces get bestowed the honorable right to have an economy?

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

let the other 7 provinces burn in hell, amiright?

The real question is - which 3 provinces get bestowed the honorable right to have an economy?

AB, ON & QC of course.

These are the only three provinces that really matter after all.

And, of course, AB will still bellyache that it is paying for all of QC's bills anyway.........

[Innsertnamehere]

*BC sinks into the pacific ocean*

[SFUVancouver]

The 'three economies' was referring to this being the Provincial Economies III thread.

In actual provincial economy news, the Port of Prince Rupert recently announced it is commencing construction of the $750 million Ridley Island Export Logistics Project (RIELP) expansion of the Port.

The project will consist of a 108-acre greenfield development on Ridley Island that will commence operation in Q3 2026. Ray-Mont Logistics will develop and operate facilities that provide transloading service capacity for 400,000 TEUs (twenty-foot equivalent units) for agricultural, forestry, and plastic resin products.

The project will also include an expansion of the existing Ridley Island Road Rail Utility Corridor that will facilitate unit trains 10,000 feet in length with direct access to the site from the CN network. The transload facilities will be connected to Fairview Container Terminal by direct private road access, the 5-kilometer Fairview-Ridley Connector Corridor, ensuring all product movements will be within PRPA jurisdiction and fully avoid public infrastructure.

https://www.rupertport.com/prpa-to-b...stics-project/

[ssiguy]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

AB, ON & QC of course.

These are the only three provinces that really matter after all.

Ya, ON, AB, & QU do rule the roost in the country economically and politically. Outside those 3, it's basically just fishing, lumber, and wheat.

[casper]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

Ya, ON, AB, & QU do rule the roost in the country economically and politically. Outside those 3, it's basically just fishing, lumber, and wheat.

Actually:

Provincial share of Canadian Economy by GDP

Ontario - 38%
Quebec - 20%
Alberta - 15%
BC - 14%
Saskatchewan - 3.5 %
Manitoba - 3%
Nova Scotia - 2%
Everyone else - under 2%

Alberta is just a more noisy sibling to BC at the family dinner table.

[craner]

Some articles from Western Investor on BC & the Prairies:

B.C. mega-projects scale back construction employment as they near completion
http://https://biv.com/article/2023/10/bc-mega-projects-scale-back-construction-employment-they-near-completion

Comment: Metro Vancouver’s other land crisis
http://https://www.westerninvestor.com/british-columbia/comment-metro-vancouvers-other-land-crisis-7682911

Industrial action defines Metro Vancouver’s suburban markets
http://https://www.westerninvestor.com/british-columbia/industrial-action-defines-metro-vancouvers-suburban-markets-7698451

Construction employment remains strong on the Prairies
http://https://www.westerninvestor.com/british-columbia/construction-employment-remains-strong-on-the-prairies-7693252

Calgary office conversion program whittles away at vacancies
http://https://www.westerninvestor.com/british-columbia/calgary-office-conversion-program-whittles-away-at-vacancies-7555583

[MolsonExport]

Alberta's oilsands pump out more pollutants than industry reports, scientists find

Alberta's oilsands operations produce far more potentially harmful air pollutants than are officially reported, with the daily output on par with those from gridlocked megacities like Los Angeles, new research suggests.

The study, published today in the academic journal Science, measured concentrations of organic carbon emissions in the air by flying overhead and taking samples. Those numbers were compared to estimated amounts, prepared using ground-based data, reported by oilsands operations.

The researchers found levels that were between 20 and 64 times higher than those reported by industry, depending on the oilsands facility.

pipelines?

[Airboy]

Originally Posted by craner

Some articles from Western Investor on BC & the Prairies:

B.C. mega-projects scale back construction employment as they near completion
http://https://biv.com/article/2023/10/bc-mega-projects-scale-back-construction-employment-they-near-completion

Comment: Metro Vancouver’s other land crisis
http://https://www.westerninvestor.com/british-columbia/comment-metro-vancouvers-other-land-crisis-7682911

Industrial action defines Metro Vancouver’s suburban markets
http://https://www.westerninvestor.com/british-columbia/industrial-action-defines-metro-vancouvers-suburban-markets-7698451

Construction employment remains strong on the Prairies
http://https://www.westerninvestor.com/british-columbia/construction-employment-remains-strong-on-the-prairies-7693252

Calgary office conversion program whittles away at vacancies
http://https://www.westerninvestor.com/british-columbia/calgary-office-conversion-program-whittles-away-at-vacancies-7555583

Talking with my brother yesterday. He is a PM on a large BC project. He mentioned that labour is needed. His site is 100 trades person short. He said the site has close to 1000 trades persons on site.I have 5 sites in Alberta and they are all short trades. Regrettably the mega projects have trades that do not cross over to buildings con easily.

[craner]

^Yikes - not good.

[Hardhatdan]

Originally Posted by Airboy

Talking with my brother yesterday. He is a PM on a large BC project. He mentioned that labour is needed. His site is 100 trades person short. He said the site has close to 1000 trades persons on site.I have 5 sites in Alberta and they are all short trades. Regrettably the mega projects have trades that do not cross over to buildings con easily.

There are no surplus workers regardless of construction sector. There is no one to cross over, let alone with the requisite depth of experience. This is the new normal.

[Architype]

Originally Posted by Hardhatdan

There are no surplus workers regardless of construction sector. There is no one to cross over, let alone with the requisite depth of experience. This is the new normal.

We need more skilled immigrants then?

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by Architype

We need more skilled immigrants then?

Hence the government programs to promote same.

[Hardhatdan]

Originally Posted by Architype

We need more skilled immigrants then?

TFWs will likely be a major contributor in 2025 onward for the Industrial sector. There are alot of projects queued up all planning to hit peak construction at the same time across BC/AB/SK. The traditional availability of travel coverage across Canada has been abandoned by owners and even when that is available the pools of labour from the east now seem to be engaged in work within their home provinces or less willing to travel.
The residential/commercial sector is doing to struggle as its majority staffed by small businesses who don't have the organization to apply and lobby the Gov.

[MolsonExport]

Keeping Alberta rollin'



somebody in another thread made a funny quip about the strategic placement of the wheels

[Airboy]

There is a movement here to call her by her real name. Marlaina Smith.

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

Keeping Alberta rollin'



somebody in another thread made a funny quip about the strategic placement of the wheels

Eeeek! Couldn’t imagine the shit firestorm that would be blazing around here if that picture was picture was of Climate Barb…, errr Catherine McKenna….

[Truenorth00]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

Eeeek! Couldn’t imagine the shit firestorm that would be blazing around here if that picture was picture was of Climate Barb…, errr Catherine McKenna….

It's sad that prime still don't understand why the attacks on Catherine McKenna were misogynistic.