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Old Posted Apr 19, 2020, 8:57 PM
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Phillys population growth has definitely slowed. That trend already started here. And now we have the rise of WFH, the want for less density/open areas, and Tax abatements reducing. This will be a trifecta that will definitely impact the city.
I know that what the census said.

But it's hard to drive around Northern Liberties, South Kensington, Fishtown, Port Richmond, Francisville, Brewerytown, Templetown, University City, etc and believe it.

There's even infill happening in Germantown, East Mount Airy, etc. Places that saw no development in the city's main growth spurt.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 20, 2020, 12:59 AM
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I know that what the census said.

But it's hard to drive around Northern Liberties, South Kensington, Fishtown, Port Richmond, Francisville, Brewerytown, Templetown, University City, etc and believe it.

There's even infill happening in Germantown, East Mount Airy, etc. Places that saw no development in the city's main growth spurt.
Totally agree. There’s a bit of a Tale of Two Cities thing happening in Philly where a handful of neighborhoods are thriving and the rest not so much.

Where do you think we are losing population? Which are the biggest impacted losing areas?
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 20, 2020, 1:30 AM
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Tbf, the census estimates have traditionally underestimated Philly's growth. If you look at a graph, it's clear that every 10 years when the real census happens, they get a better estimate for Philly's population, and it shoots up quite a bit.

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Old Posted Apr 20, 2020, 6:34 PM
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Wolf said some construction will be allowed starting 5/8......
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 20, 2020, 6:42 PM
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Old Posted Apr 21, 2020, 6:54 PM
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I was driving on I-95 past Fishtown/Port Richmond and I saw that the land along Beach Street immediately adjacent to Graffiti Pier was all torn up. It used to be overgrown with small trees and weeds. I know all construction is on hold due to COVID-19 however has that massive project started?
What project is it that you are referring to? I dont recall hearing about anything near their
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 22, 2020, 3:59 PM
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What project is it that you are referring to? I dont recall hearing about anything near their
This. The land used to be very over grown but has been cleared with construction equipment on it.
https://philly.curbed.com/2019/7/3/2...are-waterfront
     
     
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Governor Wolf has announced that all public and private construction can resume on May 1, according to The Inquirer.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 23, 2020, 5:35 PM
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Governor Wolf has announced that all public and private construction can resume on May 1, according to The Inquirer.
Great news!
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Old Posted Apr 23, 2020, 5:53 PM
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Governor Wolf has announced that all public and private construction can resume on May 1, according to The Inquirer.
Just saw that- so it appears its totally separate from the May 8th gradual opening date
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2020, 5:23 PM
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Just saw that- so it appears its totally separate from the May 8th gradual opening date
Yes. These are the guidelines for May 1 resumption: https://www.nochumson.com/state-gove...n-pennsylvania
     
     
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Governor Wolf has announced that all public and private construction can resume on May 1, according to The Inquirer.
The Inky reported that Wolf's decision also grants cities and counties the right to be more restrictive in when and what can open, and that Mayor Jimbo is trying to decide. The article also said that Wolf is calling for construction to take place while practicing the 6' rule where possible. That's a very big loop hole.
     
     
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The Inky reported that Wolf's decision also grants cities and counties the right to be more restrictive in when and what can open, and that Mayor Jimbo is trying to decide. The article also said that Wolf is calling for construction to take place while practicing the 6' rule where possible. That's a very big loop hole.
L&I has been having weekly zoom calls with the development community. Nothing is clear or determined yet, but the sense is that exterior work will begin to be permitted in early May with all construction activities permitted by June. All under the guidelines that Wolf put in place.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2020, 3:53 PM
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The City's order on resumption of construction:

https://www.phila.gov/documents/cons...b&e=087a65f94a
     
     
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Old Posted May 1, 2020, 9:21 PM
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^ Gee, we're sliding into recession/depression. Let's raise taxes!
     
     
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^ Gee, we're sliding into recession/depression. Let's raise taxes!
Gee, we're living in the major American city with the highest poverty rate which is experiencing exploding unemployment. Let's cut city services.

There aren't exactly good answers here. Some city services will need to be cut, taxes will have to go up. Hopefully the federal government will step up to fill in the gaps.

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Old Posted May 2, 2020, 12:15 AM
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Gee, we're living in the major American city with the highest poverty rate witch is experiencing exploding unemployment. Let's cut city services.

There aren't exactly good answers here. Some city services will need to be cut, taxes will have to go up. Hopefully the federal government will step up to fill in the gaps.
Philly already has some of the highest taxes in the country. This depression is forcing WFH and making people want to leave the city. If phillys not careful, it’s tax base will start to flee and then massive cuts to city services will happen.

There are no easy choices here. But raising taxes on the middle class is a terrible decision.

** End of my comment on taxes. This forum hates this topic. So let’s try to avoid it **
     
     
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Old Posted May 2, 2020, 1:22 AM
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There aren't exactly good answers here. Some city services will need to be cut, taxes will have to go up. Hopefully the federal government will step up to fill in the gaps.
Cutting services isn't desirable, but it's actually feasible. You can't get blood from a stone. Let's all hope we can find a way out of this mess.
     
     
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