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Old Posted Jul 21, 2020, 11:13 PM
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https://twitter.com/CheapoCrappy

Ok..time for a SSP poster to fess up and claim this twitter account as their own.
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Ok..time for a SSP poster to fess up and claim this twitter account as their own.
That's a rather atrocious atrocity! I mean the building.

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Old Posted Jul 22, 2020, 12:15 AM
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Ok..time for a SSP poster to fess up and claim this twitter account as their own.
Molson, is that you????
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2020, 2:59 AM
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Not me. I have no presence on social media other than SSP and my professional career.

Whomever it is, I believe that they live in Ottawa, whereas I am in London.
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Ok..time for a SSP poster to fess up and claim this twitter account as their own.
They might be a lurker. You should message them and see. If not a current SSPer they would surely appreciate our subforum.

Edit: Reading it further I’m convinced it’s either stevanford or someone who lurks this forum.

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They might be a lurker. You should message them and see. If not a current SSPer they would surely appreciate our subforum.

Edit: Reading it further I’m convinced it’s either stevanford or someone who lurks this forum.
Not me (: must be a lurker. Not a huge Twitter guy. Although, these are horrible architectural crimes.






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Old Posted Jul 22, 2020, 3:45 PM
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where is that last one?
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2020, 4:05 PM
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Apparently Kingston. CheapoCrappy on twitter. Please post photos with appropriate accreditation in the post itself. It's not rocket science, give a link to where it came from.
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2020, 4:28 PM
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Apparently Kingston. CheapoCrappy on twitter. Please post photos with appropriate accreditation in the post itself. It's not rocket science, give a link to where it came from.
Sorry.
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2020, 4:58 PM
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Is it strange that I despise soul-sucking while I love urban grit?
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2020, 5:07 PM
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Is it strange that I despise soul-sucking while I love urban grit?
Nope. Urban grit has potential to be great. It has the weathered look of history and the presence of a period of time. It looks as if humans lived there, with all the flaws and history that entails.

Soul-sucking can't ever be great. It is lowest common denominator bland. It looks sterile, fake. It is designed for low cost, low maintenance and covers the blemishes with a facade.

An old Cabbagetown house in the 1950s had potential. A 2010 build Vaughan home with its fakey "brickwork" (only on the front, mind you, vinyl siding for the rest), will still be a heap of crap a few decades from now.
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2020, 5:22 PM
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Sorry.
It's okay. Sometimes, although rarely, it can cause trouble. Mainly it is nice for others to be able to find the original and in this case it is like kindred spirit to this thread.
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2020, 5:24 PM
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Is it strange that I despise soul-sucking while I love urban grit?
No, it is not. Some old can be ugly, but there is usually a fine-grained texture to the use and life going on or the life that went on with grit that is not apparent in the latest stucco-clad suburban hotel.

There is a difference between well-used urbanity and deteriorated and vacant. I can see interest visually in both, but one definitely hurts the soul more than the other.
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2020, 6:17 PM
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Nope. Urban grit has potential to be great. It has the weathered look of history and the presence of a period of time. It looks as if humans lived there, with all the flaws and history that entails.

Soul-sucking can't ever be great. It is lowest common denominator bland. It looks sterile, fake. It is designed for low cost, low maintenance and covers the blemishes with a facade.

An old Cabbagetown house in the 1950s had potential. A 2010 build Vaughan home with its fakey "brickwork" (only on the front, mind you, vinyl siding for the rest), will still be a heap of crap a few decades from now.
Indeed. We agree completely.
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2020, 6:18 PM
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No, it is not. Some old can be ugly, but there is usually a fine-grained texture to the use and life going on or the life that went on with grit that is not apparent in the latest stucco-clad suburban hotel.

There is a difference between well-used urbanity and deteriorated and vacant. I can see interest visually in both, but one definitely hurts the soul more than the other.
Nobody will ever love the Sandman hotel.
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Nobody will ever love the Sandman hotel.
Ya that sandstone bland look is terrible! They don't seem to spend a dime on the exterior. Even the downtown Vancouver location on Georgia, which should be their flagship location as it is a Vancouver company, was once an old hotel or office building and they've done nothing to improve the outside. Such a poor first impression.
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Old Posted Jul 24, 2020, 6:22 PM
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If you'd like to own a piece of Fugly history, here's your chance. It boggles the mind that someone who spent all that money to build this steaming pile apparently didn't consult an architect. If there was one involved they should lose their license for crimes against taste.

[IMG]fuglymcmansion by whatnextyvr, on Flickr[/IMG]
Credit: The Province.....
Some more details on this home from the South China Morning Post (no doubt CivicBlues will burst in, panties all a-twist, to explain how the HK newspaper is horribly racist)

This gargantuan US$16 million Canadian ‘farmhouse’ is last hurrah for a wild real estate bonanza, fuelled by Chinese money
-The 22,317 sq ft home, with a chandelier as big as a compact car and a jade-lined ensuite, is one of the last mega mansions to be built on Richmond farmland
-The giant home is part of a remarkable phenomenon that saw farms sell to mansion builders for 100 times their official valuation
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Published: 6:00am, 24 Jul, 2020

Drive past the turkey farm. Keep going, past the hand-painted signs advertising fresh eggs and “u-pick” berries.
Go far enough down No 6 Road in Richmond, British Columbia, and you can’t miss the house – although if you reach the topsoil business you’ve gone too far.

“House” doesn’t do justice to the gargantuan edifice that rises from the blueberry fields at number 9431 like a colonnaded mirage. Technically, it is a farmhouse, albeit one measuring 22,317 sq ft, with a chandelier the size of a compact car, a jade-lined master ensuite and a price tag of C$21.98 million (US$16.4 million)....

...No 6 Road has unsealed shoulders for much of its length, with brambly ditches running either side to mitigate the swampy conditions. It has no scenery of note, although on Tuesday, a bald eagle sat on a fence post, a dead duck in its talons, and there is a bowling alley and a multiplex cinema at the road’s terminus about a kilometre from the house.

The Hamptons or the French Riviera this is not...

...Yang, who specialises in luxury property in the metro Vancouver region and has been a key player in the farmland mansion scene, said “99 per cent” of her clients were originally from mainland China. She is telling them there will be no more homes like this.

“This will be the last one. Not even in our generation. The next generation – you will never see another 23,000 sq ft home be built here,” said Yang.
That is because of the controversy that erupted in Richmond around the phenomenon of the mansion farmhouses....

the home’s nine bedrooms feature ensuite bathrooms/dressing rooms which each pace out at 500-600 sq ft, bigger than many new Vancouver condos. The master suite is difficult to distinguish from the other eight official bedrooms, but Yang’s colleague Edward Zhang pointed out its bathroom’s gleaming brown tiles, which he said were a type of jade....


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Old Posted Jul 24, 2020, 9:05 PM
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^ Unbelievably bland...

Speaking of mansions on farmland.

I've been curious about this for the past few years when driving around here.

For instance, some big houses off Trafalgar where Oakville and Milton meet. Or up around Elgin Mills in rural Markham. Or any former farm land in Halton Hills.

I see a fancy gate, a long driveway and an impressive house. But then it hits me. The closest tree to your house is 40 yards away.

I try think about the psychology of a rich person who can accept a barren landscape as their front and back yards despite being rich. Joe Schmo living in a blue collar neighbourhood has a cozier yard than you do.

If I were super rich, I don't think I could accept looking out my window at nothing. I have the money, I feel like one of the important aspects of my home is having a proper yard.

To some people, which is a lot, they care literally just about having a nice house, the material aspect of things, and don't give a shit about their yard. For instance, you see how many people are willing to pay over a million for tight quarters tract housing with a token tree in the front that is barely taller than the actual homeowner and a backyard that is actually bare (new build) and is the size of a postage stamp. Personally speaking, I'd rather spend the money on an older house in a mature neighbourhood with trees everywhere, big driveway and big backyard. In many cases you can find a similarly sized house for cheaper and then upgrade with the savings in money. I know someone who had a new build house in Caledon East and as they grew their family they decided to sell it and buy an older home in Old Caledon East for cheaper and then reno it. They now have a backyard you can actually kick a ball in.

My cousin lives in a 3 storey rowhouse in Mississauga that luxuriously finished and has 5 bathrooms. It's worth over a million. He can barely squeeze his car into the garage and the driveway fits just one more. The backyard is somewhere you can sit down and have a beer and do some barbecue. No more than that. And ya, one little tree. If you have toys and gear, especially if you have kids, it's impossible to store it sensibly. I don't know where he'd put 3 bikes, lawn mower, power washer, tires, garbage/recycle bins, strollers, wagons, etc.

I do wonder if there's a significant discount between a mansion on empty land and the equivalent on a wooded lot, which is like 30 seconds down the road. Is that the reason why a rich person would take that soulless house over one with charm? They are both 7,000 sf but because one is so much cheaper, he can actually afford the same 7,000 sf as the one on a nice lot and not have to settle for 6,000 sf on a wooded lot?

Couple examples from satellite:
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.5227.../data=!3m1!1e3
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.5299.../data=!3m1!1e3
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Old Posted Jul 24, 2020, 9:49 PM
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Some more details on this home from the South China Morning Post (no doubt CivicBlues will burst in, panties all a-twist, to explain how the HK newspaper is horribly racist)

Oh FFS, give it a rest.

An article that some nouveau riche Chinese own large houses in the ALR is not racist. I still stand by the fact it was built originally for an Indo-Canadian family hence the lotus symbol, as most are houses like this in the area are.

Posting stories such as this ad nauseam to rile up forumers across Canada against Chinese, when there are multiple examples of such houses not owned by rich Chinese (such as the previous post), is racist. As is your intent.
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Old Posted Jul 28, 2020, 10:06 PM
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Not ugly IMO. Just one of those awkward window or windowless situations again. I always ask "why?".

This is in Hampstead, Montreal.

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