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Old Posted Oct 7, 2019, 4:22 AM
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looking west at the new stuff along Folsom (with Mira's lowrise portion on the immediate right)



one more gap to fill in and Folsom will have been completely transformed downtown
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2019, 5:46 AM
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2019, 7:38 PM
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SF housing breaking ground on troubled Mid-Market block that housed strip club
J.K. Dineen
Oct. 7, 2019

One of Mid-Market’s most glaring cavities is about to be filled.

Three years after winning approvals to develop 193 rental apartments at 1028 Market St., developers Olympic Residential Group and Tidewater Capital will break ground this week. It’s a long-awaited housing complex that Mid-Market boosters hope will improve a block that has struggled with drug dealing and crime, even as much of the neighborhood has seen a big influx of investment.

Construction crews are set to begin demolition Monday on the two-story 1907 building that has housed a theater, a billiards parlor and a strip club. Most recently it was home to the Hall, a temporary gourmet food market that Tidewater operated from 2015 to 2017 while seeking approvals. The site has been vacant since the Hall closed in October 2017.

Like other market-rate developments in San Francisco, 1028 Market has been slow to get going as rising construction costs have made projects increasingly infeasible. The cost of the $120 million project has escalated 25% since 2017 and nearly doubled since it was proposed in 2014.

While the project may be starting later than hoped, Dan Deibel, founder and principal of Olympic, said the time was spent honing the design. The project site is sandwiched by buildings on busy Market Street and sits atop the BART tube, which presents unusual construction and engineering challenges, he said.

The additional scrutiny also persuaded the development team to eliminate the 44 parking spaces in the original plan. The project will have 124 bike spaces — but no spots for cars. Underground parking spots cost about $60,000 apiece to build . . . .

The building will have 6,000 square feet of retail, including a cafe, as well as a clubroom, fitness center and roof-deck with fire pits and barbecue grills. The development includes 26 below-market-rate units as well as a mix of studios, one-bedroom, two-bedroom and three-bedroom units . . . .

At last, one of SF's most scabrous blocks may be improved.
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2019, 7:45 PM
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This is next door to the under-construction 1066 Market:




Both images: https://socketsite.com/archives/2019...ak-ground.html
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2019, 11:03 PM
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Remember this rather ugly 30-story thing-a-ma-bob proposed for 570 Market St.?


https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranc...t-stanton.html

It's b-a-a-a-a-ck! Hopefully having had a major re-design (but one story shorter):

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New plans for 29-story hotel slated for Market Street
By Katie Burke – Staff Reporter, San Francisco Business Times
Oct 7, 2019, 12:02pm PDT Updated 2 hours ago

A developer's plan to transform a decades-old retail building into a bustling hotel catering to tourists is inching along as momentum for downtown hospitality development continues to pick up speed.

San Francisco-based Frontier Group LLC has filed a formal planning application for a 29-story, 240-room tourist hotel just steps from the Montgomery BART station at 570 Market St. The proposal would include demolishing the existing two-level retail building, now home to Japanese dollar store Daiso, and replacing it with a 300-foot tower with ground-floor retail, public open space and a bar on the 15th floor.

Stanton Architecture, the lead designer, originally drew up blueprints for a 30-story tower with 241 rooms. The initial development cost was estimated to be $75 million. The revised figure was not immediately available.

The revised plans were triggered by the constrained site's need to meet downtown development requirements such as the inclusion of public open space and shadow studies. The updated design shifts the open-air atrium from the third to 14th floor, complete with a dedicated elevator to allow for public access. It will be sheltered by an outdoor bar on the 15th floor . . . .

While a majority of San Francisco's proposed hotel developments have been concentrated on the greater SoMa area, there are a few projects in the works north of Market Street. Stanton is also behind a 155-room proposal at 420 Sutter St., a 77-room AC by Marriott at 425 Mason St. as well as 315 rooms at 439 Washington St. . . . .

. . . about 20 new hospitality developments are in various stages of San Francisco's approval process with about 1,450 rooms under construction and another 3,400 rooms in planning, according to CBRE Hotels.
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranc...RpQjhPUjVqTyJ9

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Old Posted Oct 8, 2019, 3:36 AM
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Some progress on 1950 Mission St, near 16th and Mission:



Just down the street, to the east; 490 S Van Ness looks like it's close to topping out:



You can see the crane for 1990 Folsom just down the street if you look closely.

It seems unreal to have four larger BMR projects going on all at once in this part of the Mission.
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Old Posted Oct 8, 2019, 4:18 AM
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At last, one of SF's most scabrous blocks may be improved.
aw, scooped! I was just about to post that fencing had gone up. from Saturday:



this as part of a more general mid-Market update... 950 block, which appears to be called 'Serif'?



and the aforementioned 1066 Market



up a ways, here is Market and Haight



and the Flax site, which apparently is called 'The Rise'



here's the 'back'

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Old Posted Oct 8, 2019, 5:48 AM
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Just down the street, to the east; 490 S Van Ness looks like it's close to topping out:



You can see the crane for 1990 Folsom just down the street if you look closely.

It seems unreal to have four larger BMR projects going on all at once in this part of the Mission.
scooped again! I won't duplicate your first two pics, but here is another angle of 490 S Van Ness (Saturday)...



and 1990 Folsom:



(looking back at the first one)

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Old Posted Oct 8, 2019, 5:55 AM
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Bonus points to anyone who can find a rendering of the re-do.
https://socketsite.com/archives/2019...-progress.html
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^^Nice. Socketsite hadn't yet posted that when I looked.

The redo is a big improvement of the streetwall facade IMHO but I'm still no fan of the tower (too Holiday Inn-ish for SF's "grand boulevard").

To make it easy for people:



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The tower portion still looks like a housing project on the east side.

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Old Posted Oct 8, 2019, 6:23 PM
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More on (or near) Market St:

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Study for Mid-Market Infill Tower About to Get Underway
October 8, 2019

The required Environmental Impact Report (EIR) for the proposed infill 27-story tower to rise on Nordstrom’s underdeveloped parking lot parcel at 469 Stevenson Street is about to be drafted by Planning.

. . . the tower’s proposed height has been reduced to 284 feet (but) its proposed density has been increased to include around 460 units, of which 358 units would be one-bedrooms and the remainder a mix of twos, threes and eight fives.

At the same time, the number of parking spaces in the development’s underground garage has since been reduced from 234 to 171 and the project’s two ground floor commercial spaces, which are slated to front Jessie, have been reduced to total 4,000 square feet.

And assuming the project is approved as proposed, which includes a requested density bonus as the parking lot parcel is principally zoned for 160 feet in height, the project team is now anticipated to break ground sometime next year and be completed with the development by late 2023.

https://socketsite.com/archives/2019...-underway.html

^^Seems to rather diminish the Intercontinental Hotel.
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Old Posted Oct 8, 2019, 11:21 PM
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Burger King at Van Ness & Eddy has lost its parking garage/drive-through to the project at 830 Eddy:


My photo today

The project:

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. . . this 137-unit apartment building includes three townhouse units adjacent to the pedestrian lobby facing Eddy Street. The building will feature a car elevator, and provide 82 car parking spaces and 137 bicycle parking spaces. A large roof deck offers panoramic views of the city lights and beyond.

This 13-story high-rise tower is designed to exhibit a verticality that belies its proportions. The Eddy Street façade consists of a GFRG frame with a vertical orientation. The infill walls and windows are deployed in a rhythmic manner to contrast the rigor of the frames. An “off white” palette reflects the color and texture of early 20th century apartment buildings in the city.

The Willow Street façade includes residential stoops and Juliet balconies that give this narrow alley a pedestrian scale. The Willow façade consists of two volumes: the lower volume holds the street edge, and there is a setback above the fifth story to allow additional sunlight to reach the street.
https://www.bararch.com/project/830-eddy

Time for yet another new thread.
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Old Posted Oct 9, 2019, 6:10 PM
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Does anyone feel the heights of the downtown buildings look too uniform from the route 80 side? Really hope another couple of taller buildings like saleforce tower added into the view.
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Does anyone feel the heights of the downtown buildings look too uniform from the route 80 side? Really hope another couple of taller buildings like saleforce tower added into the view.
Many of us have felt this and not liked the table top look for years; it's actually better now than it was. Are you looking at the other specific project San Francisco threads? Oceanwide Center will be 910', also puncturing the skyline.
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Old Posted Oct 10, 2019, 6:34 AM
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Many of us have felt this and not liked the table top look for years; it's actually better now than it was. Are you looking at the other specific project San Francisco threads? Oceanwide Center will be 910', also puncturing the skyline.
I really look forward to the oceanwide center as an addition to the skyline. Hopefully the project will go smoothly without being put on hold.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2019, 7:32 AM
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I really look forward to the oceanwide center as an addition to the skyline. Hopefully the project will go smoothly without being put on hold.
Assuming they erect the third tower crane and complete the final foundation pour this weekend as they have announced, I think it's safe to say nobody currently anticipates any holds or delays. Renting those cranes is expensive and not the kind of thing you do just to let them sit there.

Judging from photos in the building thread, we should also soon see the shorter Mission St. tower rise above street level--looks like they are working on the utilities and rebar for the ground floor now--and once that happens it will, as with other buildings like 706 Mission and 181 Fremont, seem to shoot up (compared to the slow below ground progress).
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Assuming they erect the third tower crane and complete the final foundation pour this weekend as they have announced, I think it's safe to say nobody currently anticipates any holds or delays. Renting those cranes is expensive and not the kind of thing you do just to let them sit there.

Judging from photos in the building thread, we should also soon see the shorter Mission St. tower rise above street level--looks like they are working on the utilities and rebar for the ground floor now--and once that happens it will, as with other buildings like 706 Mission and 181 Fremont, seem to shoot up (compared to the slow below ground progress).
Thanks for the update!
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2019, 4:08 PM
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Thanks for the update!
as viewguy and Pedestrian have alluded to, Oceanwide has its own thread with fairly constant updates
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Does anyone feel the heights of the downtown buildings look too uniform from the route 80 side? Really hope another couple of taller buildings like saleforce tower added into the view.
I'm guessing you are referring to the set of photos posted by gillynova. I personally don't mind it that much. In fact, it's one of my favorite views of the SF skyline (Bay Bridge approach or Treasure Island side is my top) because once you get around the bend of Hospital Curve, it's like BAM! You get hit with the view of a massive continuous wall of skyscrapers. Although you've got the table top effect (which is improving as viewguysf mentioned), the skyline looks extra dense from that angle.
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