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Originally Posted by 3rd&Brown
You speak from a place of priviledge of course. Imagine if you lived at 22nd & Allegheny. Or in Mayfair. Or in Frankford. Or on a block in Castor Gardens where many of your neighbors didn't maintain their front yards. Imagine if there were so many empty lots and unkept houses on your block that you couldn't possible do it all on your own (tend to the litter, etc). It's clear responsibility of the city to maintain clean streets. And to enforce code violations, etc.
Again. You continue to mis-represent my point. My point isn't just about power lines. It's about an overall lack of attention from the city on quality of life issues relating to aesthetics that have very real affect on people's quality of life.
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And you continue to misrepresent mine. Liter on the street is not the same as the vacant trash strewn lots that can be found all over many parts of the city. I was just posting in another thread about how damaging a vacant lot can be to its surroundings. But vacant lots are tangible scars to the urban built environment. And the trash that can accumulate in a vacant lot, is not a comparable situation to the average amount of litter you find on a city street regardless of what part of town you're in.
Look. I'm not saying we shouldn't strive to do more and the city shouldn't try to do a better job making things look better. And I agree we can walk and chew gum at the same time, just because we're dealing with big problems, doesn't mean you don't fix the potholes. All I'm saying is there is nothing wrong with putting problems into perspective and prioritizing certain things over others.
And I think if you've got a warped perspective on this city if you're placing street litter and powerlines even remotely in the same conversation as the education system among the issues that hold this city back and cause families to move out.
I'll admit, I live on a nice little street in a nice party of philly now. But there is a reason allovertown is my handle. I have lived all over town. And not always in the nice parts of town and never, no matter where I lived, was the litter or weeds on the street something that made any type of significant impact on my life.
And powerlines? Fuck man. They take power into your house. Probably went a quarter century before I even had any idea there was an alternative to hanging them on poles. It's not like when I went to center city I was wowed by the lack powerlines. I never noticed or cared.
If I fell into a coma tonight and you buried every powerline in my neighborhood before I came to, I think I might notice pretty quickly that something was different. But I think you'd have to place the over/under at at least two weeks before I actually even realized the power lines had been buried.
And yet despite this, I wholeheartedly agree that if there's a big construction project or a street is being torn up for some other major utility project, absolutely throw those lines underground. I'm just saying let's not get carried away and act like this type of shit holds a candle to dealing with the education system, poverty, homelessness, etc. I'm just saying relax a little. You can push to make things better, without getting so bent out of shape over a piece of trash on the sidewalk. Take a breath. It's not a big deal.