Speech pattern and typographical variations across Canada

[GlassCity]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

Why would anyone pronounce a word starting with "T" followed by a vowel as "ch"? That's not even English!

I say "Toronto" but I also say "doanchu" as in don't you.

[freeweed]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

Why would anyone pronounce a word starting with "T" followed by a vowel as "ch"? That's not even English!

...

You're implying that English is:

A) phonetic, and
B) consistent across all dialects?

[SignalHillHiker]

Trawno.

[Nashe]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Definitely Acadian.

Really? I didn't get that. It was too slow and unmangled, to my ear.

This is more what I'm used to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAkiNQqD1Ds

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by freeweed

...

You're implying that English is:

A) phonetic, and
B) consistent across all dialects?

I struggle with the idea that a "T" followed by an "o" could end up being pronounced as "ch" in English. Seems more like a speech impediment to me.

[Xelebes]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

Why would anyone pronounce a word starting with "T" followed by a vowel as "ch"? That's not even English!

Many words have the postalveolar fricative intrusion. It mostly has to do with the alveolar or palatal approximant that follows the t.

Chruck
Chractor
Chrap
Inchrusion
Chraditional
Doe-ncha
Woodencha
Chrawna

[esquire]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

I struggle with the idea that a "T" followed by an "o" could end up being pronounced as "ch" in English. Seems more like a speech impediment to me.

There are a lot of idiosyncracies in English pronounciation. Think of how many people say they're going to the "grow-shree store" even though there's no logical connection between the spelling of "grocery" and that pronunciation. It's just one of those things.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by Xelebes

Many words have the postalveolar fricative intrusion. It mostly has to do with the alveolar approximant or the palatal approximant that follows the t.

Chruck
Chractor
Chrap
Inchrusion
Chraditional
Doe-ncha

Well, none of those involve a "T" followed by an "O" but in any event only the last one is something I have ever heard coming from an English speaker's mouth. I can think of examples where a "T" takes on the "CH" sound when it follows a long "U", for example (cringe) "Chyousday/Chewsday".

Where do people say "chruck" and "chractor" - I really want to avoid it!

[SpongeG]

cape bretoners, newfies and pei'ers all have distinct accents, i hear a lot of them out here in alberta

i noticed people in SW ontario have a weird accent, they sounded a bit like people from minnesota to my BC ears

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

cape bretoners, newfies and pei'ers all have distinct accents, i hear a lot of them out here in alberta

i noticed people in SW ontario have a weird accent, they sounded a bit like people from minnesota to my BC ears

When I lived in the States, I was occasionally asked if I was from Minnesota.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Vorkuta

Really? I didn't get that. It was too slow and unmangled, to my ear.

This is more what I'm used to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAkiNQqD1Ds

He's got some anglo intonations for sure from living in Alberta, but it's unmistakably Acadian. Just a different level of language of course from high schoolers at MM in Dieppe.

His name "Landry" is also a dead giveaway!

EDIT: He appears to be from SE NB. He was CAO for the town of Bouctouche and is a graduate of the U de M.

[Nashe]

Originally Posted by Acajack

EDIT: He appears to be from SE NB. He was CAO for the town of Bouctouche and is a graduate of the U de M.

Well there you go. To me he sounds like an anglophone (or Acadian, for that matter) doing his best to speak BETTER French.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Vorkuta

Well there you go. To me he sounds like an anglophone (or Acadian, for that matter) doing his best to speak BETTER French.

Out of curiosity, are you Acadian yourself?

[Xelebes]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

Well, none of those involve a "T" followed by an "O" but in any event only the last one is something I have ever heard coming from an English speaker's mouth. I can think of examples where a "T" takes on the "CH" sound when it follows a long "U", for example (cringe) "Chyousday/Chewsday".

Where do people say "chruck" and "chractor" - I really want to avoid it!

Well, realise that the o is being elided in "Toronto". We say chruck and chractor here.

[RWin]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

When I lived in the States, I was occasionally asked if I was from Minnesota.

Similar experience talking to a guy from Colorado once - he was surprised that we sounded like him. Usually Americans don't know I'm from Canada unless I have to show ID from something. But then again most of my travel has been in the western states.

[samne]

LOL at the Toronto youth accent and pretty accurate and it is rediculous.

I think "guy" is the funniest and most unique thing from Toronto.

Common words-Flip, Frig, Guy, Bro, Crazy

"Guy maaan thats craaazy Bro!"

[GlassCity]

Originally Posted by samne

LOL at the Toronto youth accent and pretty accurate and it is rediculous.

I think "guy" is the funniest and most unique thing from Toronto.

Common words-Flip, Frig, Guy, Bro, Crazy

"Guy maaan thats craaazy Bro!"

Guy is common among youth in Vancouver too, particularly Surrey. I never realised bro or crazy weren't common words everywhere.

[freeweed]

One day you'll realize that your guy is now your buddy. And your buddy is now your friend.

[GlassCity]

Originally Posted by freeweed

One day you'll realize that your guy is now your buddy. And your buddy is now your friend.

Way say buddy a lot, it too originated in the Indian community in Surrey. But we actually use it regularly, as opposed to guy which you only really say jokingly.

[MolsonExport]

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