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Old Posted Oct 30, 2007, 4:31 AM
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London Tap House

A big massive new restaurant called London Taps is currently under constrction at downtown Hamilton @ John/Main St. The company is opening a five-floor entertainment, dance club, lounge and restaurant complex, featuring a 240 seat roof-top patio.

Website: http://www.londontaphouse.com/hamilton/

Suppose to open late fall 2007.

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Very exciting stuff! I would like to have a meet and greet with SSP folks once the restaurant opens.
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Opps it's London Tap House not London Taps.
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5 floors! I can't wait to see it. Nice to see someone downtown making use of more than one.
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a photo update from today:
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Old Posted Nov 1, 2007, 12:52 AM
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Amazing the building to the right already looks better. This place is gonna be crazy on opening day.

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found out in today's Spec that the building to the right is separate and will house different businesses.
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Building it back up
This block is key to renewal. It’s a focal point of the downtown, housing the grand Connaught. But like the Connaught, it’s mostly hollow today. Slowly, quietly, businesspeople are trying to pull it back together, believing vibrancy can be restored.

PAUL WILSON
Hamilton Spectator

Let’s take a walk around the block.

It’s an old one, bounded by King, John, Main and Catharine.

For nearly a century, this block has been dominated by one hulking feature — the Royal Connaught Hotel, with marble-pillared lobby, spectacular ballroom, cocktails on the rooftop garden.

And at street level, the Connaught housed many shops. If we strolled that stretch of King 60 years ago we would have passed Raphael-Mack Ladies Wear, Dack’s Shoes, R.B. McLelland’s menswear, Liggett Drugs, Powell Photo.

Immediately east, on what is now the Connaught parking lot, was a building called the Secord Block. Down at street level were Bert Rymal Appliances, Robertson and Turner Jewelers, The Travel Shop, Empire Shoe Rebuilders, Courtland Steam Baths.

Upstairs were all manner of enterprises, including the Studio of Popular Music. Chris Lovett taught there. Paul Daniels taught people how to sing. J.R. McLachlan, dentist, gave them a winning smile.

If we walked along John, the western edge of this block, we would have passed the Connaught’s coffee shop, then Nick Corrado’s tailor shop, Miss Emma Schuler’s hat shop, Sekeshon’s Fashion Salon. Over these stores, on floors two, three and four, was Connaught Bowling & Billiards, with 26 alleys, five tables and a lunch bar.

Next door, the Merchants’ Store Fixtures building. And at the corner of John and Main, the Bright Spot restaurant, a printing company above it.

Just east on Main, operations on the block included Livingstone Stoker Sales, Connaught Motor Sales, Lennox Service Station.

In short, it was a bustling block with a long list of businesses.

And how many enterprises operate on that block today? Precisely one.

“Call me crazy, but I love downtown,” says Murline Mallette. She and husband Gene have been running Liaison College of Culinary Arts at 27 John South for 10 years.

The location is handy for students, and the Farmers’ Market is handy for fresh ingredients. Mallette says they’re staying downtown. She believes the cancer around her is about to be cured.

So does her landlord, Glen Swire. “Call me crazy too,” he says. Swire is part of the family that first brought Colonel Sanders and his secret herbs and spices to town in the early 1960s.

Sometimes the colonel even slept at their house.

The Swires had Kentucky Fried Chicken outlets all over the city. Thirty years ago they decided they needed one downtown, and Swire put up the building on John South and opened a 92-seater in 1978.

At that time, the post office was right across the street. Everybody went there in those days, and hundreds worked there. That KFC closed in 1996 — downtown was deteriorating, the post office moved to Stoney Creek and McDonald’s and Wendy’s left their locations across from Gore Park.

Swire, 57, values Liaison as a tenant and has no plans to sell. “I’ve got another 20 years to hang on,” he says, but predicts downtown will be a better place inside of 10 years.

He’s heartened by what’s happening one door south, at John and Main.

Whistler-based Gibbons Hospitality Group has bought a 157-year-old stone building for $500,000 and is spending $2 million to turn it into a 900-seat club, complete with what could be downtown’s only rooftop patio. The London Tap House opens soon.

Matt Gibbons looked on the Mountain. “But it’s more of a strip-mall feel up there. The history’s down here.”

One door east on Main, the BFT Group (Building for Tomorrow) is putting the finishing touches on a $200,000 renovation of what long ago was the site of the Lake & Bailey flour mill.

Brent Coleman of BFT — a young local group — says it’s their first venture downtown. The building, purchased last year, has café, office, loft potential.

They’ve moved stairways, installed heavy structural beams, struggled to get permits.

Coleman is sure it’ll be worth it. “I think this block is key. Five years from now, it’ll look significantly better than it does today.”

One door north of Liaison College is the four-storey building that once housed that bowling alley and billiards.

It’s in bad shape and has been mostly empty for years. There was the seedy Crazy Horse Saloon, whose rough patrons caused Liaison many headaches.

The saloon’s recent death is good news.

Now the building — bowling lanes long gone — is for sale. Mississauga realtor Anastasia Tolias has the listing.

She doesn’t know much about Hamilton, but “I don’t like what I see in the downtown core … Everybody needs to come together and kick it up a couple of notches.”

She has the property listed at $800,000, ambitious indeed. The building’s owned by a numbered company.

Ted Mammas of Mississauga, one of the principals, says they simply bought it as an investment. They’re not interested in developing the building, just selling it.

So that’s four properties on the block. The fifth, last not least, the great beast, Lady Connaught. After she slipped into receivership in 2004, five local businessmen bought her for $4.5 million — Tony Battaglia, a founder of Hamilton airport’s TradePort; Plaza Hotel owner Oscar Kichi; Ted Valeri of T. Valeri Construction; Labourers’ International Union vice-president Joe Mancinelli; and Mario Frankovich, president of Burgeonvest Securities.

They said they would make the Connaught royal again. They thought it would be done by now, but the job of rebuilding has not yet begun. They can’t find the financing.

The plan morphed into a mammoth project that would see the Connaught buy the other four properties on the block, knocking them down and putting up two 18-storey condo towers behind the renovated hotel.

According to Battaglia, lead hand for the Connaught ownership group, two of the four parties were “totally unreasonable” in what they wanted. So that plan died this summer.

The current plan is to do the Connaught with offices on floors two, three and four and put guest rooms on the other eight.

“The cost of renovating is more expensive than a brand-new building,” Battaglia says, “and the final appraisal shows a value that’s lower than the cost. Lenders just can’t wrap their heads around that.”

So the search for money goes on.

Battaglia says the ownership team may have to ante up more money. And they may now have to go to second-chance lenders, who charge higher interest.

Battaglia says there’s been no surrender.

“I’m disappointed, but not defeated. I still think this is a great project.”
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no way London Taps opens in 2007. Walked by yesterday and got a good look inside...bare walls and studs everywhere...upper floors too.
coming along nicely though. Should be a beauty.
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I thought they were keeping the walls bare, as exposed brick?

Ya, this is by far my #1 favourite project in the city right now. It's going to be GREAT... as for the rooftop patio, well I'm prolly gonna wait til Late spring/early summer to venture up there! hahaha
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The same owners have a London Tap house here in London, very nice bar here...hopefully works in Hamilton, but the crowd is a bit different in the two cities. Pretty much only students here in London, not so much in hamilton.
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Here's a commercial from London Tap House, you get the idea of what the place will be like in Hamilton

http://www.video.ca/video.php?id=89683600

Should be a fun place.
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According to the website, Hamilton's will have a lot more including a full time restaurant, lounge etc....
it seems that London's is only nightclub.
Hamilton is loaded with students too, so they'll be packing into this place I'm sure.
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Hamilton definitely has the student numbers to tap into. The Mac students regularly come downtown at night.
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a ton of students live downtown...try catching a college or west end bus headed for downtown at the end of the evening...packed.
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a ton of students live downtown...try catching a college or west end bus headed for downtown at the end of the evening...packed.
Tell me about it!! Ugh!
I went to Westown (on Locke) for breakfast Sun AM, had to way 40 mins b/c the place was PACKED with Students!!! They had 4 tables and 2 booths!!
Anyone who's been there knows that's like 1/2 the seating in that joint!! haha

Mmmm... westown...
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^that was a great photo tour. here are a couple i pulled from facebook [thanks, scott rowe]:


looks awesome.
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Old Posted Nov 7, 2007, 11:44 PM
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Loving the interior design! That hallway is supposed to be the main hallway, what a great way to enter. So excited for this place to open, one thing for sure is that opening night is gonna be b-a-n-a-n-a-s.
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yah I'm quite excited as well, but mostly to see what kind of development it's going to spur in the area. I bet the empty lot across Main won't be empty for too much longer. Whoever owns it is gonna jump to develop it (and hurry up the brownfield remediation they've been doing forever).
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why the plywood blocking some of the view on the rooftop patio??
yea, I looked through that tour - amazing! this place will rock.
Sadly, don't expect much on the surrounding lands for 2 reasons:
1. Main Street
2. LIUNA
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