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Old Posted Oct 24, 2021, 9:37 AM
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[QUOTE=KevinW;9432215]A little while back ER did a post on the Riviera tract. I must say, based on this photo:

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A rather impressive home.



you must not play any golf. I would recognize the Riviera Country Club Clubhouse anywhere. This photo is taken from north of Sunset. The tract office was just south of Sunset and the Clubhouse is about two blocks south of that. The actual Golf course is in the canyon behind the clubhouse.

Here's a more famous angle of it:




It does look like the RCC Clubhouse, but ....


Here's the tract office far right in a detail from the orginal picture and the other "building" to the left edge.



hdl.huntington.org


Here's a 1928 aerial with the tract office in the blue circle and the RCC Clubhouse in the green box. To get that view of the tract office in the original picture,
the photographer must have been south and a little west of it.



mil.library.ucsb.edu


The RCC Clubhouse would not appear in the original picture to the left of the tract office.


I think it is an amalgam of two houses (red arrows) at the corner of Sunset and Napoli Drive (13701 Sunset Blvd and 1310 Napoli Dr).



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The seller added another slide.


eBay

I imagine this view is from the top of the Sears Building as well.




Look at the neon!

[...]

The Water and Power Dept. Building in the far distance is. .um. .bright!... I guess they weren't too concerned about the cost of electricity since they're the power company.


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It wouldn't be the LADWP building between the Richfield tower and the microwave tower. I'm pretty sure its the Unocal building, even though there's no hint of the angle in the middle. The super bright building to its right might be the top of the Edison building. (Two other companies in the energy biz.) I did work out that the building behind the "a" in "Vintage" is at 7th and Mill St.
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Old Posted Oct 25, 2021, 9:54 PM
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Interesting deduction, Mackerm....I'll have to look at it more closely.

. . but first

I just happened upon this slide of the Farmers Market dated 1970.


eBay


I've been trying to figure out in what direction we're looking and what part of the Farmers Market this is. Nothing looks familiar.

Of the moving cars I recognize the Ford Mustang in the lower left corner but I don't recognize the other two.







Here are some close-ups.

I'm especially intrigued by the 70s looking mens misc. store. It doesn't seem very farmers markety....."What's that dang mens store doing here?"



detail

Upon closer inspection I'm pretty sure the blue sedan turning left is European. (hmm. . .are those head-rests or speakers in the back window?)






detail

As you can see, the stand-alone building is headquarters to. . .um. . .something.

Does anyone know what kind of car those two girls driving? (well actually, only one of the girls is driving)


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Old Posted Oct 25, 2021, 10:19 PM
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detail

I'm pretty sure the blue sedan turning left is European.
That's a Rover P6.

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detail

Does anyone know what kind of car those two girls driving? (well actually, only one of the girls is driving)
This one is a Ford Thunderbird, I think a '57.
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Old Posted Oct 25, 2021, 11:42 PM
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Well that was fast! ..Thx Hoss



I believe we've talked about these do-hickys in the past. . .but


Bird House. .or. . Air Vent?


detail

. . .or a combination of both?

It even has the dowels for the birds to stand on.

hmmm..If it's also a vent you might end up with asphyxiated birds.



There's also one at mens misc.



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I just happened upon this slide of the Farmers Market dated 1970.


eBay


I've been trying to figure out in what direction we're looking and what part of the Farmers Market this is. Nothing looks familiar.
Indeed. Doesn't look like the Farmer's Market atall atall (as Hobo Kelly used to say).

But I checked a 1970 phone directory, and here's the Men's Misc store at the correct address.



So I too am puzzled about what part of the Farmer's Market we're looking at.
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Did it indicate who was the architect or engineer?
Gonna go with M.C. Escher.
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2021, 4:22 AM
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RPPC Treasure Trove

A few weeks ago I posted a RPPC labled Moneta, Cal 1907 from eBay. I just discovered that the seller, collector-ca, has sold and is currently selling hundreds of early 20th century images from California and other western states. Many are from the L.A. area.
They as described as being from the Ron Lerch collection. Apparently Mr. Lerch was a noted collector of western historical items who passed away a few years ago.

A few interesting samples:


RPPC ~ Dick Ferris' Balloon "American," LOS ANGELES, CAL. c.1909 ~ Real Photo
https://www.ebay.com/itm/13391094737...gAAOSwU-xhcgMW



The Pike


Hoffman RPPC ~ The Pike, LONG BEACH, CALIF. ~ Los Angeles County, California
https://www.ebay.com/itm/13391093371...8AAOSwDqphcaw4



Inglewood

Look how wide all the streets are here!
RPPC ~ Market Street, INGLEWOOD, CAL. ~ Los Angeles County ~ REAL PHOTO
https://www.ebay.com/itm/13390999204...AAAOSwiqRhcLDT


Watts


RPPC ~ Main Street Looking West, WATTS (Los Angeles), CAL. ~ REAL PHOTO
https://www.ebay.com/itm/13390998945...cAAOSwLwNhcKJf



Something a bit more bucolic - Glendora


RPPC ~ Glendora Livery Stable, GLENDORA, CAL. ~ Los Angeles County, California
https://www.ebay.com/itm/13390998602...0AAOSwX9NhcJGc

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Old Posted Oct 26, 2021, 9:51 AM
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It wouldn't be the LADWP building between the Richfield tower and the microwave tower. I'm pretty sure its the Unocal building, even though there's no hint of the angle in the middle. The super bright building to its right might be the top of the Edison building. (Two other companies in the energy biz.) I did work out that the building behind the "a" in "Vintage" is at 7th and Mill St.
Yes, it is Unocal. The fairly tall building in the foreground just to the left of Richfield is probably the 250', 20 floor United Ca. Bank building on Spring St, one of the first built after the height limit was lifted. Two others visible left of Richfield are the Tishman office building, also 250' and the slightly shorter Sinclair Oil building just across the Harbor Freeway. If this pic was taken after 1964/65 you would also see the Occidental Insurance building with a fancy restsurant on top, 452', 32 floors, a bit to the left out of the picture. Still there of course, but with a USC sign and no restaurant. By 1967/68, One Wilshire (30 floors), Union Bank (42 floors), City National (26), and Crocker Citizens tower (43 floors) would have been added, and Richfield would have still been there.

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Old Posted Oct 26, 2021, 10:09 AM
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Indeed. Doesn't look like the Farmer's Market atall atall (as Hobo Kelly used to say).

But I checked a 1970 phone directory, and here's the Men's Misc store at the correct address.



So I too am puzzled about what part of the Farmer's Market we're looking at.
6333 W. 3rd is the North-East corner of the original Farmer's Market plot.

[update: Its been pointed out that the entire Farmer's Market plot buildings share the same address. Thanks Lwize.]

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A few weeks ago I posted a RPPC labled Moneta, Cal 1907 from eBay. I just discovered that the seller, collector-ca, has sold and is currently selling hundreds of early 20th century images from California and other western states. Many are from the L.A. area.
They as described as being from the Ron Lerch collection. Apparently Mr. Lerch was a noted collector of western historical items who passed away a few years ago.

A few interesting samples:

[...]

The Pike


Hoffman RPPC ~ The Pike, LONG BEACH, CALIF. ~ Los Angeles County, California
https://www.ebay.com/itm/13391093371...8AAOSwDqphcaw4[...]
Wonderful pictures, Bristolian!

Here's the "now" (well, 2011: there's a building on the parking lot now; plus they've realigned the street) of the Pike picture:


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Old Posted Oct 26, 2021, 2:01 PM
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A Couple More for the Morning

Beacon Street, San Pedro


RPPC ~ Down Beacon Street, SAN PEDRO, CAL. ~ Los Angeles County, California
https://www.ebay.com/itm/13391094359...0AAOSwS9phcfcm




RPPC ~ Beacon Street c.1907, SAN PEDRO, CAL. ~ Los Angeles County, California
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2021, 5:12 AM
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6333 W. 3rd is the North-East corner of the original Farmer's Market plot.
From Googly maps, all the farmer's market buildings share the 6333 W 3rd address.
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2021, 9:20 AM
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I just happened upon this slide of the Farmers Market dated 1970.


eBay


I've been trying to figure out in what direction we're looking and what part of the Farmers Market this is. Nothing looks familiar.


I think this is roughly the same view nowadays.



GSV


The arrow on this 1968 aerial shows the direction towards Fairfax, the photographer was facing.

You can see the two standalone structures in the picture that housed "mens misc." and a ticket agency circled.



mil.library.ucsb.edu

They're gone from aerials after 2000.
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Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone might be able to assist me finding record (an address, if possible) of a pool hall on Heliotrope called the Crooked Cue? Was apparently defunct at some point before 1982 and turned into a rehearsal studio.

I've not been able to find any record of it, though I did find a Blevins Billiards at 665 Heliotrope in 1973 (which might be correct) and a Crooked Stick Pool Hall all the way over on 4807 Central Ave, which I don't think is the right one.

Apparently the phone number for the address was 662-6982, active well into 1985. I'm fairly sure it was just off Melrose Avenue.

Any help would be much appreciated!

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Old Posted Oct 28, 2021, 5:09 AM
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Bristolian, thanks so much for posting the wonderful rppcs! I spent way too much time looking at them.
I especially liked the balloon photograph and the Glendora Livery Stable photograph.





re: Farmers Market Ebay slide

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So I too am puzzled about what part of the Farmer's Market we're looking at.

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6333 W. 3rd is the North-East corner of the original Farmer's Market plot.
Much appreciated Handsome Stranger and CBD.




Let's compare.

Then. . .

Originally posted by Noir Noir.


Thanks for pinpointing the view in the vintage eBay slide, Noir Noir.



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Maynard L. Parker was one of the great chroniclers of So Cal mid-century architecture and interior design....several of his images out of the Huntington Library collection have been posted here, I searched and could not find these....undated but judging by the automobiles and furnishings I would guess about 1940....no address provided but I am fairly certain we are looking at 1634 18th St. in Santa Monica, see below....





























I came up with a 1963 trademark registration that showed the 18th St. address....here's a city of Santa Monica permit from the same year.....







A list of dba's from 1943 indicates the company was a purveyor of gentlemen's grooming products under the name Windsor House, Ltd.....






.....their primary line was marketed as King's Men....






1940's....






1960's....Oh dear, if only the Baxters knew....

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Old Posted Oct 28, 2021, 3:08 PM
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Inglewood 1908

Another image from the Ron Lerch collection being sold on eBay.
Is this what would become Market Street with the dual tracks?


https://www.ebay.com/itm/13390999180...p2047675.l2557


Reverse Side


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Old Posted Oct 28, 2021, 4:24 PM
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Oh dear, if only the Baxters knew....
The Baxters may not have known, but I'm sure Hazel Burke did!
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I drove by the former location of Brotherton's Farm House in Pasadena last weekend and it kindled my dim (but fond) memories of the place. It was such a great time machine place and it inspired my young imagination.

Brotherton's opened in 1937 at 2239 E. Colorado Blvd. The site is now a mini-mall. Their great-grandsons have opened a restaurant in Hermosa Beach called Baran's 2239 using that old address. https://www.latimes.com/food/dailydi...nap-story.html
https://southbay.goldenstate.is/family-style-4/


(Highland Park News Herald and Journal 11.24.63)
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(You know You Are From Old School Pasadena When............./Facebook)

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