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Old Posted Feb 7, 2019, 6:06 AM
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Is this bad boy stalled? Glass doesn't seem to have moved since early October.
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^ heres a view from yesterday morning, but nothing was happening on the site.





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name change: The Leaning Tower of Pizza(rotti) This FUBAR might deserve a post in the B&A discussion forums.

Contractor Sues Fortis Over ‘Unsafe’ Leaning Tower Condo Near Seaport

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The 670-foot-tall, 58-story apartment building under construction at 161 Maiden Lane is leaning three inches to the north, according to a lawsuit filed in New York State Supreme Court by the project’s contractor, Pizzarotti. An off-kilter foundation is affecting the building’s structural integrity, facade, waterproofing and elevators, the recent suit argues.

Developer Fortis Property Group, working with a previous general contractor, opted not to drive piles into the soft ground of the site by South Street Seaport on the East River before it laid the foundation because Fortis wanted to save money, the contractor claims in the suit. Instead, Pizarrotti alleges, Fortis decided to use a cheaper “soil improvement” method, which involves compacting and draining the damp earth to make it more stable.

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The Fortis spokesman acknowledged that the building was off-kilter, but said it’s not a safety issue, as Pizzarotti claimed. The general contractor actually caused the leaning condition by failing to plan for the settling of the foundation while pouring the concrete slabs of the building, the spokesman shot back.

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“As two of the top engineering firms in the world—Arup and WSP—have certified, there are no safety issues at the building and construction can continue immediately,” the Fortis spokesman said in remarks
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Old Posted Apr 2, 2019, 8:54 PM
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Oh. Ha. At least this probably means it will definitely have to be torn down, and won't be an unfinished problem thing for years. Probably.
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So do a controlled implode job and start from scratch sing someone other than Fortis...who should be told in no vague terms that before they're ever chosen for another job in New York ever again, Mercury will become an ice planet.
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This development is a nightmare. Delay after delay.
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Kinda reminds me of that tower in San Francisco that has the leaning issue also.
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Old Posted Apr 4, 2019, 10:12 PM
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This development is a nightmare. Delay after delay.
Seriously, and all for nothing apparently. I wonder if this will need to be taken down for safety reasons?

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Kinda reminds me of that tower in San Francisco that has the leaning issue also.
Right, they're about the same height too, terrifying to think about.
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Oh great, this will just fuel NIMBY's when it comes to new developments to fight against.
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Supposedly its a safe tower according to the foundation engineers even though there is uneven settling and subsidence. Leaning 3 inches.

I think this is further ammo for the weekday community fighters aka NIMBYS. I hope it doesn't fuel their anti-development rhetoric using this development as a case study as to why we should have a max building of 2 floors.
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Hmmm, putting a nearly 700ft tall, very slender building basically right next to the water where future excavations on either side could further disturb the soil ... and they don't go down to the bedrock. I'm no expert but ....
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2019, 7:45 PM
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Supposedly its a safe tower according to the foundation engineers even though there is uneven settling and subsidence. Leaning 3 inches.

I think this is further ammo for the weekday community fighters aka NIMBYS. I hope it doesn't fuel their anti-development rhetoric using this development as a case study as to why we should have a max building of 2 floors.

When you think about it I guess 3 inches isn't much considering it's a near 700 foot high building. Hopefully things are alright and it gets clad soon
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Construction Halts As One Seaport Allegedly Begins To Lean, At 161 Maiden Lane, In The Financial District

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Construction at One Seaport, aka 161 Maiden Lane, has been noticeably paused for the past several months. The 60-story reinforced concrete structure topped-out back in early September, and it was unclear until recently why further progress had halted. However, new reports have revealed the 670-foot-tall building is actually leaning three inches to the north, leading to a series of legal disputes between Fortis Property Group, LLC, the developer, and Pizzarotti LLC, the current contractor. The project is being designed by Hill West Architects while Groves & Co is serving as the interior designer. Douglas Elliman is handling sales of the units.

C Structures, the concrete subcontractor, first noticed the error, which led Pizzarotti to sue Fortis in late March. Pizzarotti argues that Fortis cut corners to save on construction costs for the foundations by utilizing a cheaper method to strengthen the land by draining and compacting the dirt. This approach was done instead of the typical use of pilings driven into the soil, which would have sat underneath the reinforced concrete foundation slabs and perimeter walls. This stage of development was completed before Pizzarotti was hired in December 2015 to handle construction.

Meanwhile, Fortis claims that Pizzarotti was performing poor construction practices in the pouring of the slabs and states there are no safety concerns regarding the off-centered alignment of the building. They also proclaimed that the differential settlement had been taken into account. Pizzarotti is receiving a large amount of money for the cost of overruns as well as issuing an injunction against Fortis to fix the structural integrity and design of One Seaport before work can resume.

It is important to bear in mind that the site for One Seaport did not exist when the island of Manhattan was first settled. New York City’s feverish pace of growth and expansion has altered and expanded the topographical outline of Manhattan and the other four boroughs with millions of cubic feet of landfill. The close proximity to the waters of the East River is also more than enough reason to utilize pilings and deeper foundations.

It remains unclear how this will affect the plans for 80 South Street directly next door. There is a question of whether One Seaport should remain standing or be demolished for imposing a safety concern for the surrounding area and the possible construction of the adjacent supertall. Fortis and Pizzarotti have currently ended their mutual contracts. Ray Builders has now been hired to redesign and fix the curtain wall.

So far there has been no word on an updated completion date or what will happen with the issue of the leaning.
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According to some employees across the street construction is happening.
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Old Posted Apr 16, 2019, 1:48 PM
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Hmmm, putting a nearly 700ft tall, very slender building basically right next to the water where future excavations on either side could further disturb the soil ... and they don't go down to the bedrock. I'm no expert but ....
ha, i know right? i'm sure they are well aware of that, but it's just what they thought they could get away for cheap with without anchoring to the bedrock.

makes you wonder if a big, soaking storm surge would slosh it around too.
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Old Posted Apr 16, 2019, 3:25 PM
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When you think about it I guess 3 inches isn't much considering it's a near 700 foot high building. Hopefully things are alright and it gets clad soon
Actually, the 3 inch lean could be affecting the cladding as well. Any unexpected deviation in plum of the building could affect how the curtain wall panels attach toward the top. The lean is likely not completely consistent across the entire structure, so they may need to re-manufacture some of the connection points to account for that, provided they deem the structure itself to be safe to occupy. A 3-inch lean shouldn't make it unsafe, but 3 inches now could be 10-12 inches later, which could pose a problem down the line.
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