CHICAGO | Highrise Projects & Construction, v7

[r18tdi]

Originally Posted by BVictor1

160 N. Morgan

Out of all of the West Loop apartment proposals this one might be the most West Loopy of them all.

[colemonkee]

I like 160 N. Morgan, and this steady march of height moving west.

[Skyguy_7]

Originally Posted by r18tdi

Out of all of the West Loop apartment proposals this one might be the most West Loopy of them all.

"West Loopy" has quickly become the new RNB (River North Beige). It's all quite tasteful, I just want to start seeing a little more variety.

[IrishIllini]

Originally Posted by Skyguy_7

"West Loopy" has quickly become the new RNB (River North Beige). It's all quite tasteful, I just want to start seeing a little more variety.

Nothing will ever be as awful as RNB atop a 5+ story podium that doesn't even include an amenity deck.

[the urban politician]

^ Exactly.

I will take "west loopy" monotony over RNB monotony in a heartbeat.

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by IrishIllini

Nothing will ever be as awful as RNB atop a 5+ story podium that doesn't even include an amenity deck.

RNB and that is bad, but trust me it could be even worse.

[BVictor1]

Originally Posted by Skyguy_7

I see conflicting proposals; one from Morris, below, and one from BKL. Anyone know which it is?

Virtual Community Development Meeting For 1201 West Fulton Market
Please join 27th Ward Alderman Walter Burnett Jr. and the West Loop Community Organization (WLCO) for a virtual community meeting regarding the proposed development at 1201 West Fulton Market.

Wednesday, May 12, 2021
6PM

click here to attend

Meeting ID: 891 2781 2672
dial by location

[Randomguy34]

In Fulton Market alone, the past year has seen about 3,000 units proposed, approved, or start construction. That's not even including the 1,000s of other units proposed in the rest of West Loop, and some of the stuff planned for the IMD. Fulton Market is a fire that can't be put out, and I can't imagine the type of projects we'll get this upcoming year

[ardecila]

^ Fulton Market is also the golden goose, in that it's the fastest-growing part of the city and most big new projects pay into the Neighborhood Opportunity Fund.

All of Lori's Invest South/West projects are directly subsidized by this fund. I suspect this is part of the reason the residential ban north of Lake was rolled back so quickly after Covid hit. Gotta keep the momentum going in West Loop

[the urban politician]

^ Will River North ever get revenge on the West Loop for stealing its thunder?

[ChiPlanner]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

^ Will River North ever get revenge on the West Loop for stealing its thunder?

doubtful- honestly don't think the office nor the condo market is strong enough in River North- combined with the fact that there are fewer and fewer "larger" parcels available. In the long run I'd expect to see some apartment towers, boutique condos, and small office buildings in RN, but nothing to rival West Loop/Fulton again.

[ardecila]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

^ Will River North ever get revenge on the West Loop for stealing its thunder?

Have you missed One Chicago? River North may not have the same volume of new projects but it also doesn't have historic protection that keeps buildings short and stubby, or design review that pushes everything into red-brick territory.

Even the newer, taller generation of West Loop projects are only half the height of One Chicago, Elysian, Park Tower, 300 N LaSalle, etc.

[chicubs111]

Rivernorth has the most potential for One north Chicago type projects sprouting around that area...There is rarely any height pushback and its just a matter of demand increasing again as the economy starts to pickup again. I believe I heard in past that alderman Hopkins wanted the area around one north Chicago to be something akin to 57 street in Manhattan.. obviously Chicago does not have the demand with the extreme height and pencil thin towers like Manhattan does but something along the lines of fairly tall luxury buildings lining up the thoroughfare.

[k1052]

Originally Posted by ardecila

^ Fulton Market is also the golden goose, in that it's the fastest-growing part of the city and most big new projects pay into the Neighborhood Opportunity Fund.

All of Lori's Invest South/West projects are directly subsidized by this fund. I suspect this is part of the reason the residential ban north of Lake was rolled back so quickly after Covid hit. Gotta keep the momentum going in West Loop

It's also not full of (many) owners who will pitch a fit at rapid development unlike other hot pockets of the city. Virtually no pushback to be had.

[JN12Franklin]

I think the argument could be made that during the last cycle, River North actually had MORE development than the West Loop had. It's just not as noticeable because the it's not the same type of transformation. What River North doesn't have is 800 proposals waiting to kick off.

-One Chicago
-Two Chicago (not sure it's actually called this)
-Wolf Point South, East, West
-The Hudson
-Superior House
-400 W Huron
-360 W Erie
-The Ronsley
-Hubbard 221
-311 Illinois
-Gallery On Wells
-640 N Wells
-Exhibit on Superior
-The Bentham
-The Ardus
-Home2Suites Hotel
-Moxy Hotel
-369 W Grand (Omni?)
-490 N Lasalle Office Building
-The Marlowe
-Oh, and the McDonalds has solar panels now.

Not to make it a competition, but I don't think the West Loop really matches all of that.

[rivernorthlurker]

Originally Posted by JN12Franklin

I think the argument could be made that during the last cycle, River North actually had MORE development than the West Loop had. It's just not as noticeable because the it's not the same type of transformation. What River North doesn't have is 800 proposals waiting to kick off.

-One Chicago
-Two Chicago (not sure it's actually called this)
-Wolf Point South, East, West
-The Hudson
-Superior House
-400 W Huron
-360 W Erie
-The Ronsley
-Hubbard 221
-311 Illinois
-Gallery On Wells
-640 N Wells
-Exhibit on Superior
-The Bentham
-The Ardus
-Home2Suites Hotel
-Moxy Hotel
-369 W Grand (Omni?)
-490 N Lasalle Office Building
-The Marlowe
-Oh, and the McDonalds has solar panels now.

Not to make it a competition, but I don't think the West Loop really matches all of that.

I promise I won't make it a competition . This brings to mind a post I made with the following graphic about proposed projects in River North and there are quite a few (see image below). Not as many as Fulton of course, but River North proposals don't seem to get a lot of discussion on the forum.

There are also several proposed (or under construction) projects along Chicago Ave in River North shown not depicted below but referenced on this handy map that someone shared a while ago of Chicago developments with lots of useful links https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...817614998&z=16 The snapshot here highlights a nice cluster of potential office developments that could come to fruition in River North to serve non Class A office demand (if there's any left).

Via http://ward42chicago.com/documents/2...ingPackage.pdf

[JN12Franklin]

Yea, there's sneakily a decent amount of office space along the brown line in that Erie, Huron, Superior area. That's an impressive graphic, although 110 W Huron, 146 W Erie, 676 N Lasalle, and 400 W Huron are built now.

I really love the information and how it's displayed on that google link you shared. Whoever created it, shoutout to them. It hasn't been updated since November, so if you're out there, you're appreciated and I'm sure alot of us here would love an update.

It highlights some active proposals.
-5 decent infill projects along Chicago Ave.
-2 Offices Buildings at Huron and Franklin
-Andaz Hotel
-Rivere (above the firehouse)
-and Reid Murdoch addition
Hopefully they happen because they're starting to grow a bit stale.

[rivernorthlurker]

Originally Posted by JN12Franklin

Yea, there's sneakily a decent amount of office space along the brown line in that Erie, Huron, Superior area. That's an impressive graphic, although 110 W Huron, 146 W Erie, 676 N Lasalle, and 400 W Huron are built now.

I really love the information and how it's displayed on that google link you shared. Whoever created it, shoutout to them. It hasn't been updated since November, so if you're out there, you're appreciated and I'm sure alot of us here would love an update.

It highlights some active proposals.
-5 decent infill projects along Chicago Ave.
-2 Offices Buildings at Huron and Franklin
-Andaz Hotel
-Rivere (above the firehouse)
-and Reid Murdoch addition
Hopefully they happen because they're starting to grow a bit stale.

Ah yes, it's a little dated (but also in a good way). 308 W Erie also built.

Also belated welcome to the forum!

[marothisu]

And if you extend to north of Chicago Ave in the Gold Coast too even just within a few blocks, then you have Aurelien, State & Chestnut, the Bush Temple of Music building being completely re-developed, the Bush Temple of Music extension high rise, the new LDS church (6+ stories tall) next to that, plus the new expensive townhome rentals next to that. Also 805 N LaSalle and then AMLI 808. I used to live in this general area and it changed a bit with these projects. I haven't visited since One Chicago got way off the ground but I can imagine how much different the area looks now even with that alone. Also south of Chicago Ave you have 2 E Huron.

If you go a few blocks north of that, you also have No 9 Walton, State & Elm, and Viceroy Hotel though that's solidly "Gold Coast."


I agree with others that West Loop has the most dramatic transformation, but the amount of construction that has gone on in "River North" is also quite a bit. Also, someone mentioned that "West Loop" is the fastest growing area in Chicago. Now I'm not going to do this by neighborhood within CAs, but that's not true. Near West Side is #3 in reality. This is compared to the 2010 ACS, which is what you're supposed to compare another ACS to (not the 10 year):

Population change from 2010 to 2019 via ACS:
1. The Loop: +93.3%
2. Near South Side: +38.3%
3. Near West Side: +26.9%
4. Riverdale: +25%
5. Oakland: +23.9%
6. Near North Side: +22.4%
7. Avondale: +15.4%
8. Lincoln Square: +9.6%
9. Douglas: +9.4%
10. Bridgeport: +9.3%
11. Montclare: +9.2%
12. West Ridge: +8.9%
13. Lincoln Park: +7.8%
14. West Elsdon: +6.8%
15. North Center: +6.4%
16. Hyde Park: +6.2%
17. Archer Heights: +5.9%
18. Woodlawn: +5.3%
19. Garfield Ridge: +5%
20T. Washington Park: +4.7%
20T. Uptown: +4.7%
22: Lake View: +4.3%
23. Clearing: +3.8%
24. Mount Greenwood: +3.7%
25. Grand Boulevard: +3.5%
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[the urban politician]

Crains is talking about the 1320 W Fullerton proposal, but they are saying that it's a 14 story project (I'm not counting that many floors in the rendering):

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/comm...rtment-project