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Old Posted Oct 9, 2023, 8:30 PM
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Alouettes destroy Ottawa again. Really getting concerned with how bad Ottawa continues to be every year its like the Rough Riders in the 80s and 90s again. Will be hard to sell tickets if they don't turn this thing around next year.
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I don't know what the answer is in Ottawa, except a full rebuild based mostly on scouting new-to-the-league players.

Sean Burke seems to love to sign guys he knew well in Hamilton, and the team has a lot of players who played elsewhere in the CFL too... perhaps the numbers are no different than for any other team, but it certainly seems that way. There's a reason many of them weren't re-signed by the Ticats (whose own talent evaluation I also question) and other teams. Losing Masoli in consecutive years to major injuries didn't help, but the talent wasn't there to support the backups.

I'd love to see Edmonton pull off an upset next week and see the Cats beat the Lions again, just to make that final Hamilton @ Montreal game a meaningful one. The odds are against it happening, but anything can happen. It's also tough to beat a team two weeks in a row in their home stadium.
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Broncos and Stamps fan here - not a good year.
Ouch. (hugs)

Well, my prognostication of the Riders losing out after the loss to Edmonton is on track. Just Calgary and Toronto left. We'll have to lose to Toronto's practice roster though.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2023, 7:55 PM
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https://globalnews.ca/news/10017726/...ts-lower-bowl/

Edmonton Elks to close upper bowl of Commonwealth Stadium for 2024 season

The Edmonton Elks will be closing the upper bowl of Commonwealth Stadium for the 2024 CFL season so fans will only have access to tickets in the lower bowl.


In an email to season season-ticket holders, the football club’s interim president and CEO Rick LeLacheur said the move would enhance game-day atmosphere and bring “fans closer to the action.”

The capacity of the lower bowl is over 31,000, the email said, which means Commonwealth Stadium will “still have one of the largest capacities in the CFL.”

“We’re also confident that Edmontonians will step up and support their team beyond 31,000 fans for key games, in which case we will open additional seating in the upper bowl,” LeLacheur said.

In the last five seasons, the Elks have had 11 games with more than 30,000 fans. So far in the 2023 season, just the home opener against Saskatchewan (32,233) and the Labour Day rematch against Calgary (32,422) sold more than 30,000 tickets.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2023, 8:28 PM
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Edmonton Elks to close upper bowl of Commonwealth Stadium for 2024 season

The Edmonton Elks will be closing the upper bowl of Commonwealth Stadium for the 2024 CFL season so fans will only have access to tickets in the lower bowl.


In an email to season season-ticket holders, the football club’s interim president and CEO Rick LeLacheur said the move would enhance game-day atmosphere and bring “fans closer to the action.”

The capacity of the lower bowl is over 31,000, the email said, which means Commonwealth Stadium will “still have one of the largest capacities in the CFL.”

“We’re also confident that Edmontonians will step up and support their team beyond 31,000 fans for key games, in which case we will open additional seating in the upper bowl,” LeLacheur said.

In the last five seasons, the Elks have had 11 games with more than 30,000 fans. So far in the 2023 season, just the home opener against Saskatchewan (32,233) and the Labour Day rematch against Calgary (32,422) sold more than 30,000 tickets.
Translation: In the face of declining revenues, we are trying to reduce expenses by closing the upper decks at Commonwealth Stadium.

This won't increase atmosphere at Commonwealth. Many people hate endzone seats as the views are terrible so they just won't bother going if they can't get a cheaper upper deck ticket.

This reminds of BC closing the upper deck at BC Place years ago.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2023, 8:52 PM
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Doman opens some of the upper deck in bc when riders bombers and his concert games happen. Elks will probably struggle filling endzone seats but the need for the upper deck is very limited even if elks become winners again.
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Makes sense to improve the game day experience.
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apparently only 3700 season tickets sold were in the upper deck this year so the savings in security and concession staff to service the upper deck makes too much sense.

https://3downnation.com/2023/10/11/e...adium-in-2024/

Fans who currently have season tickets in the upper bowl at Commonwealth Stadium will not be charged extra for moving to the lower bowl. A team spokesperson told 3DownNation that there are currently 3,700 season tickets in the upper bowl that belong to 1,400 account holders. Edmonton is keeping all ticket pricing flat for 2024.
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Another week, another loss. 4 turnovers on doens and you lose by 7? Really? What this team and coaching staff is thinking is mind boggling. Everyone should be out if a jib on the coaching staff.
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Old Posted Oct 15, 2023, 7:17 PM
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The Elks came out of the gate nicely, but proceeded to fall apart and revert back to early season form at times.

You gotta be able to convert, period.
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Makes sense to improve the game day experience.
The main issue at Commonwealth Stadium is that the lower bowl stands are so far from the field due to the stadium being built for the 1978 Commonwealth Games requiring an athletics track.

The only way to fix it is to do what Los Angeles did and lower the playing surface 40-50 feet and build the lower bowl stands down to meet it. I realize it's not going to happen due to the considerable expense and it would actually increase capacity. I suppose one can never say never. It would be more economical than building a new stadium.
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So this season the Argonauts go undefeated at home. 9-0.
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The main issue at Commonwealth Stadium is that the lower bowl stands are so far from the field due to the stadium being built for the 1978 Commonwealth Games requiring an athletics track.

The only way to fix it is to do what Los Angeles did and lower the playing surface 40-50 feet and build the lower bowl stands down to meet it. I realize it's not going to happen due to the considerable expense and it would actually increase capacity. I suppose one can never say never. It would be more economical than building a new stadium.
The next step in Edmonton, when the time comes (which probably won't be in my lifetime) will be to build a 30-35k seat stadium once Commonwealth has outlived its shelf life. But they keep upgrading it so I don't see that happening here any time soon.
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Bombers just 500 seats short of sellout for regular season finale hopefully they get it.
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Bombers just 500 seats short of sellout for regular season finale hopefully they get it.
That's pretty amazing. They do need the win (or a ridiculous tie) to get the home playoff game, but I'm still impressed.
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The next step in Edmonton, when the time comes (which probably won't be in my lifetime) will be to build a 30-35k seat stadium once Commonwealth has outlived its shelf life. But they keep upgrading it so I don't see that happening here any time soon.
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Mid-sized stadium, large-sized conversation starter in Edmonton
Dan Barnes Edmonton Journal Feb 10, 2017



Rendering of a mid-sized stadium on Edmonton's Northlands exhibition grounds.

It is a stunner, and sized to fill a gaping hole in Edmonton’s infrastructure inventory.

For now, a mid-sized stadium pegged for the city’s Northlands exhibition grounds is off the books.

But a citizens’ panel will soon be contemplating a civic strategy for bidding on major events, and a report from that panel to Edmonton city council is due this summer. In addition to laying out the broader vision, it will also help inform the city’s long-awaited decision on a potential bid for the 2026 Commonwealth Games.

That’s where the stadium conversation could be restarted, and there are stakeholders hoping it proceeds.

But first, a little background.

The City of Edmonton’s mid-size stadium plan, which was approved by council in March 2014, cites the need for a venue with seating for up to 10,000 people, and centres on a phased-in Clarke Park expansion dependent on increased attendance for the primary tenant, which is now FC Edmonton.

The 2022 Commonwealth Games bid committee determined there was a need for just such a stadium to host rugby sevens, but also decided a new facility could be built. In December 2014, the bid committee informed Northlands executives that their campus in northeast Edmonton had been chosen as the primary site for that venue, to be constructed at a cost of about $140 million. The total Games bid budget of $1 billion would have included 75 per cent of the cost of the stadium, with Northlands picking up the remainder.

Reg Milley, the former chair of the 2022 bid committee who is now chairing the citizens’ panel, said Thursday he couldn’t comment on the contents of the 2022 bid.

Economic downturn ended 2022 Games bid

On Feb. 10, 2015, that bid was abandoned before it was delivered to Commonwealth Games Canada. Edmonton officials cited the financial downturn as the primary reason for their decision, and were offered first right of refusal to be Canada’s candidate city for the 2026 Games. That right has lapsed, but an Edmonton bid is still a possibility, according to city manager Linda Cochrane.

Even in the absence of a Games bid, Northlands officials saw merit in the mid-size stadium project and followed through by developing a comprehensive plan for the phased-in construction of the facility, abutting Wayne Gretzky Drive. At the time, Northlands was still committed to horse racing on their campus, and the plan called for the stadium to be opened to the west as a viewing area for the track. It also incorporated suites, a buffet restaurant and a casino.

The first phase of stadium construction would have seen 5,000 seats built in a lower bowl, with 15,000 to come in a second loge phase. The plan also contemplated beer gardens, warm-up, medical and media areas, and a 95,000-square-foot removable dome to make it a year-round venue for minor, high school, college, university and major sports, including the soccer club, FC Edmonton.

Northlands eventually determined the risks were too great, particularly in the absence of capital funding from a potential Games bid budget, so it shelved the plan.

“As a part of Vision 2020 process, we had a six-member working committee explore the feasibility of a mid-size outdoor stadium that built upon prior work performed alongside the 2022 Commonwealth Games bid,” said Northlands president Tim Reid. “To the credit of our board, they felt it was not appropriate at the time.

“However, they preserved the space and site plan for future consideration.”

New stadium would suit soccer team

And if a bid for the 2026 Commonwealth Games proceeds and succeeds, it would be time to consider that stadium plan once again, with or without the horse-racing component. FC Edmonton is certainly one of the more interested stakeholders. They play out of Clarke Park and are looking for new digs, and could make use of a mid-sized stadium.

“I’ve talked a little bit with Northlands about some of their plans,” said FC Edmonton owner Tom Fath.

“Building a new facility in Edmonton is incredibly important for us. People, when they go to a professional sport, they want fancy and new, right. It’s clear that Edmonton needs a real good, mid-sized stadium. It could be at Northlands. It could be somewhere else. But that’s really important for Edmonton.”

Indeed, in building a venue plan for the Games, committee members had to envision what was right for Edmonton.

“When you’re looking at your venue plan for hosting a Games, first and foremost in that venue plan is really what do you need for the long term, not what’s needed for the Games,” said Brian MacPherson, CEO of Commonwealth Games Canada, who still hopes Edmonton will bid for 2026.

“That’s the legacy value. It’s very important to have the right sized stadium that’s built for the city, not just a singular one-off event.”

The city’s inventory of facilities with artificial turf includes Foote Field with seating for 3,500, and Clarke Park at 5,000, and is topped by Commonwealth Stadium at 56,200. For now, the mid-sized stadium is still only on a wish list.
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The only way to fix it is to do what Los Angeles did and lower the playing surface 40-50 feet and build the lower bowl stands down to meet it. I realize it's not going to happen due to the considerable expense and it would actually increase capacity. I suppose one can never say never. It would be more economical than building a new stadium.
Wonder how economical it would be to lower the playing surface while simultaneously demolishing/rebuilding the upper levels?
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