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Old Posted Oct 2, 2013, 10:32 PM
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Later, he walked up to the bridge and growled, "You want a piece of me?"
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Old Posted Oct 3, 2013, 12:04 PM
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yet NO ONE is responsible and apparently, no one knows what's going on.
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Old Posted Oct 3, 2013, 12:12 PM
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Smacks of corruption. The Citizen should be delving deeper....
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Old Posted Oct 3, 2013, 4:43 PM
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The Strandherd-Armstrong Bridge is not doing any better!

Strandherd-Armstrong bridge delayed another year.
The $48-million bridge that will connect the communities of Barrhaven and Riverside South won’t be completed until at least September 2014, according to the bonding company responsible for the project.
The Strandherd-Armstrong Bridge was originally slated to be functional by spring of 2012.
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Old Posted Oct 3, 2013, 4:58 PM
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Based on the photograph alone, he looks like one bad-ass community association president you wouldn't want to piss off.
When I first saw the photo I thought to myself "What's Gordon Lightfoot doing next to that crappy bridge?"

Maybe he could pen a song about the tragic construction process? It *has* been a bit of a ship wreck
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Old Posted Oct 3, 2013, 5:08 PM
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The Strandherd-Armstrong Bridge is not doing any better!

Strandherd-Armstrong bridge delayed another year.
The $48-million bridge that will connect the communities of Barrhaven and Riverside South won’t be completed until at least September 2014, according to the bonding company responsible for the project.
The Strandherd-Armstrong Bridge was originally slated to be functional by spring of 2012.
That isn't news- it's been known for some time.
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Old Posted Oct 3, 2013, 11:24 PM
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Smacks of corruption. The Citizen should be delving deeper....
I agree. It might just be incompetence but these continuous delays for no real apparent reason are starting to smell a tad fishy.
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Old Posted Oct 4, 2013, 4:37 AM
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Based on the photograph alone, he looks like one bad-ass community association president you wouldn't want to piss off.
Pffft. What's he gonna do? Write a sternly-worded letter to the editor of his community paper? Circulate a petition? Start a Citizens For X, Y, Facebook group?
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He might look for a washing machine for his clothes if he has some spare time.
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Using his wits and skill with a gun, he will pit the contractors against the city and in the process destroy them all. And then saunter off into the sunset on horseback with all the money.
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Old Posted Oct 4, 2013, 3:41 PM
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From the City:

MA: Technical briefing on Airport Parkway Pedestrian/Cycling Bridge
Ottawa – A technical briefing will take place to provide an update on the Airport Parkway Pedestrian/Cycling Bridge.

Date: Friday, October 4, 2013

Time: 3:00 p.m.

Location: Festival Plaza

City Hall, 110 Laurier Avenue West

The technical briefing will be chaired by Councillor Maria McRae, and there will be presentations by City staff.
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Ha ha "suspended get it ha ha ha.

#ha.

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How hard can it be to build a pedestrian bridge? What is next with this fiasco?
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Chianello: Airport Parkway pedestrian bridge construction suspended

By Joanne Chianello, OTTAWA CITIZEN October 4, 2013 9:00 PM




OTTAWA — The latest delay in building a pedestrian bridge over the Airport Parkway is deeply embarrassing for the city, a huge political headache for the councillor and — most important — a frustrating disappointment for the residents of the Hunt Club community who have waited years for a safe way to cross the busy thoroughfare.

Last year, it was a concrete tower that needed to be repoured. Now, it’s even worse: the actual design of the bridge appears flawed and leaves open the possibility the bridge may have to be rebuilt entirely.

City deputy manager Nancy Schepers and River ward Coun. Maria McRae held a joint press conference Friday afternoon to deliver the bad news that the city had fired engineering design firm Genivar and that construction on the bridge was suspended indefinitely. In its place, the city has hired Delcan Corp., which is now fully responsible for the bridge design and is expected to report back with recommendations of how to proceed by mid-November.

Until then, if not longer, the $6.9-million project — which includes the $5-million bridge, cycling and pedestrian pathways, an underpass under the O-Train, and an improved connection to South Keys transit station — is on hold.

The bridge was conceived as a concrete deck supported by steel pipes that attach to a concrete tower. And these pipes were to fit into a steel anchorage piece at the top of the curved tower. Apparently, the pipe-and-anchor design is somewhat unusual, but Genivar’s professional engineers signed off on the blueprints so the project duly went ahead.

However, after Schepers heard concerns from a number of engineers, including ones working for the project’s contractor, Louis W. Bray Construction, she “pressed pause” on the project. The worry was that these rigid pipes, along with the steel anchor on top, would result in an unusually high level of maintenance and shortened life cycle of the bridge.

Schepers stopped short of suggesting the bridge would have been unsafe if built as Genivar had designed it, but did say that, as a professional engineer herself, “in everything that I do, public safety is my overriding responsibility. I take that responsibility seriously.”

The deputy city manager spent $56,000 to hire Buckland and Taylor, a Vancouver-based bridge-engineering firm, to review Genivar’s design. The British Columbia firm recommended design changes that, according to the city, Genivar resisted. On Sept. 5, the city fired Genivar and, in the subsequent days, hired Delcan to take over.

Everyone at city hall is now in full crisis-management mode over this project.

To assuage taxpayers, the city assures us it intends to sue Genivar to recoup losses related to any delays, design review changes and construction costs.

On the political front, McRae has requested a third-party review of the city’s entire bidding process from start to finish, to determine how this sort of mess could be avoided in the future. The outside firm — the engineering issue was considered too technical for the city’s own auditor to handle — hasn’t been hired yet, but a report should be coming to city council’s finance committee later this fall.

As the councillor representing the area where the bridge is located, McRae has been on the receiving end of the email and calls from understandably frustrated residents demanding to know what was happening with the bridge. McRae’s no shrinking violet — she called for an audit of the city’s Orgaworld contract when she was named chair of the environment committee — and she wanted it crystal clear that she was not to blame for the bridge delays.

It was telling that Schepers took pains to point out that very fact.

“This was never her job to deliver the project,” Schepers told reporters. “That’s my job and my staff’s job. And this project will get done.”

So who is to blame? That will be the second-most asked question after “When will the bridge be finished?”

Neither question will likely have a clear answer any time soon.

Reporters heard Friday that the request for qualifications and requests for proposals at the city is highly stringent. Indeed, said Schepers, the scoring formula for choosing the engineering design firm for the bid is heavily weighted toward technical capabilities: 80 per cent of points are related to engineering know-how and experience, and only 20 per cent to price.

It may seem odd that Genivar’s own engineers sign off on its own design blueprints, but as Schepers points out, they are professional engineers who are supposed to be qualified to do this kind of work. They are expected to meet certain standards and criteria spelled out by the city. (The city has informed the Professional Engineers of Ontario of the whole schemozzle.)

But given the anger over this project, the city will immediately be requiring a third-party technical assessment of all individual bridge projects from now on. (If this example is anything to go by, a $56,000 review is a small price to pay if it means avoiding a massive delay.) The city plans to include larger penalties in contracts to discourage delays. And one of the city’s structural engineers will be directly overseeing the Airport Parkway bridge project from now on.

These steps all make sense.

So perhaps the most obvious question is, why were these measures not taken before now? And that may be the toughest question of all to answer.

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Old Posted Oct 5, 2013, 1:03 PM
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I wonder if they'll need to scrap it and start again?
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I don't know a lot of details about either this project or the Barrhaven one, but it seems like in both cases the contracts went to firms with limited bridge-building experience.

It's weird how other projects that (at least seem) more complex (airport terminals, shopping malls, convention centres, LRTs, 417 overpass replacements over a single weekend) seem to go smoothly, but bridges turn into a gong show.
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Old Posted Oct 6, 2013, 2:33 AM
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What a gong show these two bridges are! Either we have extremely high expectations for design and safety or we have some terrible architects/engineers.
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Old Posted Oct 6, 2013, 2:24 PM
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I wonder if they'll need to scrap it and start again?
Third time's a charm I guess!
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I don't know a lot of details about either this project or the Barrhaven one, but it seems like in both cases the contracts went to firms with limited bridge-building experience.

It's weird how other projects that (at least seem) more complex (airport terminals, shopping malls, convention centres, LRTs, 417 overpass replacements over a single weekend) seem to go smoothly, but bridges turn into a gong show.
Well, private companies usually have much higher standards when hiring someone to build a new building. The ORT and Convention Centre contracts when to big, reputable companies. The rapid bridge replacement is a relatively new thing that, I figure, are only performed by true professionals.

That said, I'm not sure why we hired dud contractors for these two bridges.
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