NEW YORK | One World Trade Center | 1,776' Pinnacle / 1,373' Roof | 108 FLOORS - Page 850

CarlosV · #**16981** Posted **Oct 12, 2011, 8:28 PM**

DSC_3595 copy by Ceva321, on Flickr

CarlosV · #**16982** Posted **Oct 12, 2011, 8:40 PM**

4 more floors of glass panels and it will surpass 7 WTC !

DSC_3594 copy by Ceva321, on Flickr

Tall guy 31 · #**16983** Posted **Oct 12, 2011, 9:44 PM**

So, approximately 4 more weeks??

uaarkson · #**16984** Posted **Oct 12, 2011, 11:19 PM**

Thing's a monster!

06hdfxdwg · #**16985** Posted **Oct 12, 2011, 11:51 PM**

Only my 3rd or 4th post here and id like to say that the 2 photos above that Carlos has posted are really great shots that really kind of show just how massive this structure really is. I couldn't help but wonder what this would look like if they had decided to build 2 of them. I'm not really good with photoshopping things but i was just sort of wondering:Is it possible to show what the site could look like,had they decided to build them as twins?? I think that would be interesting to see and can anyone here do it and possibly post it??

Another thing i'd love to see are the mechanical drawings that Jarros,Baum and Bolles have come up with. Being a pipefitter myself,i just can't help but wonder what they've specked out for this job. Is each building going to have its heating and cooling systems independent of each other or are they going to all be fed by one central utility plant in the basement somewhere? Are they going to buy steam from Con Ed or are they going to make there own steam or hot water for heat or are they going to have one central chillwater plant or independent plants for each building?? Theres gotta be miles of pipe no matter how they configured it though. Interesting...........well to me anyway. lol

Otie · #**16986** Posted **Oct 13, 2011, 12:19 AM**

Reflections by phy5ics, on Flickr

NYguy · #**16987** Posted **Oct 13, 2011, 2:55 AM**

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marshall · #**16988** Posted **Oct 13, 2011, 3:29 AM**

I really like the glass covering they are using on 1WTC. It gives it a timeless look, and does not look like postmodern 60s or 70s. The blue/gray hues of the glass add an iredescant quality that really will give the tower more dimension when finished. I quite like the reflective quality, if you look at different points on the tower, you will always get different perspectives, from within and without!

m0by · #**16989** Posted **Oct 13, 2011, 6:30 AM**

^^^ A soccer place in the middle of the city! You really have to love NYC

NYguy · #**16990** Posted **Oct 13, 2011, 2:20 PM**

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599GTO · #**16991** Posted **Oct 13, 2011, 3:06 PM**

A bit old, but love it!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jpinlac/

dchan · #**16992** Posted **Oct 13, 2011, 3:34 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by 06hdfxdwg

Another thing i'd love to see are the mechanical drawings that Jarros,Baum and Bolles have come up with. Being a pipefitter myself,i just can't help but wonder what they've specked out for this job. Is each building going to have its heating and cooling systems independent of each other or are they going to all be fed by one central utility plant in the basement somewhere? Are they going to buy steam from Con Ed or are they going to make there own steam or hot water for heat or are they going to have one central chillwater plant or independent plants for each building?? Theres gotta be miles of pipe no matter how they configured it though. Interesting...........well to me anyway. lol

From what I've read, the original plan was to use the Hudson River's waters to provide the chilled water supply for the whole WTC site (the warmed return water was to be dumped back into the Hudson). This was basically the cooling system used for the entire old WTC complex. However, environmental groups protested the design and scope of this cooling system type because it would have sucked in a lot of fish and fish eggs in the process of drawing in the chilled water supply.

So now, each of the major towers have their own cooling system that uses NYC drinking water instead of the Hudson for its supply. And instead of dumping the return water into the Hudson (which would be wasteful because it's not-inexpensive drinking water), the return water will release its heat at the cooling towers at upper floors and recirculated through the system again.

That said, the original cooling system design will still be used to supply chilled water to the shopping concourses, transportation hall, museum, and other public areas within the site. This system will now, of course, be much smaller in scope and scale, but it still draws its water supply from the Hudson and dumps return water back into the river.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...rkeeper&st=cse

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...-trade-center/

As for the steam supply - I can't find any information. Perhaps you can find something. I would expect the site to have its own boilers because buying steam isn't very cheap in the long run.

sterlippo1 · #**16993** Posted **Oct 13, 2011, 3:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by m0by

^^^ A soccer place in the middle of the city! You really have to love NYC

yep, Battery Park City is kinda nice

dchan · #**16994** Posted **Oct 13, 2011, 3:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by dchan

As for the steam supply - I can't find any information. Perhaps you can find something. I would expect the site to have its own boilers because buying steam isn't very cheap in the long run.

I did find something via Wikipedia, from a NY Times Q&A about the WTC site:

Quote:

Alan Reiss of the Port Authority, the deputy director of World Trade Center construction, answered this question: “All of the facilities will use steam for heating but it is contemplated that every facility, memorial, hub, office towers will also have emergency generators to comply with code requirements for life-safety needs and have fuel oil storage tank located in the basement, typically lowest level, in accordance with building codes in a fire-rated room. Seven World Trade Center did not have a basement.”

So there you go. The site will use NYC steam for its heating needs.

Jonboy1983 · #**16995** Posted **Oct 13, 2011, 7:24 PM**

I'm going to New York tomorrow. I will be posting pics of the World Trade Center some time after I return to Pennsylvania on Sunday.

My wife and I will be staying at the Marriott just a block or so away from the new World Trade Center...

Dac150 · #**16996** Posted **Oct 13, 2011, 7:26 PM**

The progress is absolutely fantastic!

sterlippo1 · #**16997** Posted **Oct 13, 2011, 7:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jonboy1983

I'm going to New York tomorrow. I will be posting pics of the World Trade Center some time after I return to Pennsylvania on Sunday.

My wife and I will be staying at the Marriott just a block or so away from the new World Trade Center...

go to the 38th floor, there is a consierge (sp?) quarters and there is a window to the right as you leave the elevator that overlooks the site. not a place to hang but you can see it from up there really well .............that's if you cant see it from your room. Also, the W hotel next block east has an outdoor restaurant that has an unobstructed view of the whole site but doesnt start serving until 4 outside, inside they open earlier

Roadcruiser1 · #**16998** Posted **Oct 13, 2011, 7:56 PM**

Couldn't take any pictures yesterday because of inclement weather. I will do it Saturday, and see what I can get from Brooklyn Bridge Park.

Otie · #**16999** Posted **Oct 13, 2011, 10:11 PM**

By Joe Woolhead at wtc.com

NYguy · #**17000** Posted **Oct 13, 2011, 10:20 PM**

ROCO@@

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