NHL 2022-2023 season - Page 9

thurmas · #**161** Posted **Jul 22, 2022, 9:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

He becomes an UFA in 2 years I think, so I guess Montreal may wait until then to go after him.

Interesting though that a deal was seen as so likely that he and his family were in Montreal for draft week for the announcement of the trade.

Yeah it caused a lot of panic with jets fan boys on the various forums. Chevy now has some time to trade him come deadline day. Looking like jets roster will likely be mostly the same from last year for all the drama that's gone on this summer

craner · #**162** Posted **Jul 23, 2022, 4:19 AM**

http://https://www.tsn.ca/matthew-tkachuk-trade-florida-panthers-calgary-flames-1.1828430

OH YA !!
Thank-you Tre.

suburbanite · #**163** Posted **Jul 23, 2022, 5:10 AM**

I don't know if I'm crazy but I would've thought that Huberdeau for Tkachuk 1 for 1 wouldn't have been unreasonable. Thats a lot of additional conpensation unless Tkachuk told them he was going to sign for 8 years. Seems like a good return for Calgary.

Coldrsx · #**164** Posted **Jul 23, 2022, 2:58 PM**

I'd say a decent trade and now Tka can be a beach bum party guy and waste away his career.

Denscity · #**165** Posted **Jul 23, 2022, 3:01 PM**

Huberdeau fizzled famously in the playoffs last year I'd rather have Tkachuk.

Coldrsx · #**166** Posted **Jul 23, 2022, 3:04 PM**

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Tkachuck fizzled famously in the playoffs last year I'd rather have Kane.

Fixed that for you.

Denscity · #**167** Posted **Jul 23, 2022, 3:06 PM**

Haha also true.
Kane is famous for many other things.

craner · #**168** Posted **Jul 23, 2022, 4:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by Denscity

Huberdeau fizzled famously in the playoffs last year I'd rather have Tkachuk.

Canucks could have had Tkachuck in 2016 but they selected Juolevi.
Give me Hubi any day.

Denscity · #**169** Posted **Jul 23, 2022, 4:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by craner

Canucks could have had Tkachuck in 2016 but they selected Juolevi.
Give me Hubi any day.

Yes they could have.
But would he still be here or would he have left Vancouver as well?

DoubleK · #**170** Posted **Jul 25, 2022, 3:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by suburbanite

I don't know if I'm crazy but I would've thought that Huberdeau for Tkachuk 1 for 1 wouldn't have been unreasonable. Thats a lot of additional conpensation unless Tkachuk told them he was going to sign for 8 years. Seems like a good return for Calgary.

If they can manage to get them both signed, Florida got totally fleeced.

There is only one team in Alberta that makes terrible 1 for 1 trades... And they've done it twice.

JHikka · #**171** Posted **Jul 25, 2022, 3:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by DoubleK

If they can manage to get them both signed, Florida got totally fleeced.

Calgary wins the trade for 22-23 depending on how Florida fairs this seasom. If they're able to resign Huberdeau then even better, but as others have noted his playoff performance wasn't stunning so it's not surprising Florida were willing to part with him. Tkachuk is a step up from Huberdeau for Florida, although they still need to shed salary to be cap compliant.

We'll see if Calgary can retain either Huberdeau or Weegar or both. May just be a one-and-done run.

It's refreshing to see such a big trade in the NHL. Doesn't happen very often.

DoubleK · #**172** Posted **Jul 25, 2022, 4:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by JHikka

Calgary wins the trade for 22-23 depending on how Florida fairs this seasom. If they're able to resign Huberdeau then even better, but as others have noted his playoff performance wasn't stunning so it's not surprising Florida were willing to part with him. Tkachuk is a step up from Huberdeau for Florida, although they still need to shed salary to be cap compliant.

We'll see if Calgary can retain either Huberdeau or Weegar or both. May just be a one-and-done run.

It's refreshing to see such a big trade in the NHL. Doesn't happen very often.

Seriously? This is such a bad take.

Hubredeau had 115 points last year. Both were equally terrible in the playoffs. How that makes Tkachuk a step up defies any form of logic, common sense, or a basic understanding of the game.

JHikka · #**173** Posted **Jul 25, 2022, 4:11 PM**

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Seriously? This is such a bad take.

Hubredeau had 115 points last year. Both were equally terrible in the playoffs. How that makes Tkachuk a step up defies any form of logic, common sense, or a basic understanding of the game.

Tkachuk had 104. And he's better defensively. And he's better physically. He's a better all-around player and a better complimentary player to those around him.

I didn't realize Tkachuk's performance in the playoffs was that bad. Probably because it wasn't.

Berklon · #**174** Posted **Jul 25, 2022, 4:42 PM**

Tkachuk is also 4 years younger than Hubredeau.

HomeInMyShoes · #**175** Posted **Jul 25, 2022, 6:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by Berklon

Tkachuk is also 4 years younger than Hubredeau.

In comparison to the nothing burger that Guadreau left Calgary with I would be ecstatic with a decent defenseman, a decent forward (even if they had a lousy playoffs because the entire Florida team had a terrible playoffs and it is a team game) and a couple of other items. If I'm a Calgary fan I would miss Tkachuk, but I wouldn't be too sad.

DoubleK · #**176** Posted **Jul 25, 2022, 9:11 PM**

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I didn't realize Tkachuk's performance in the playoffs was that bad. Probably because it wasn't.

You are right, it wasn't bad at all. It was horrible.

Did you even watch the EDM/CGY series? Aside from Game 1, Tkachuk was a minus player with 0 points in the last three games of the series. The Flames lost that series because their top players didn't show up. He was one of them.

Hot Take Hikka indeed.

JHikka · #**177** Posted **Jul 25, 2022, 11:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by DoubleK

You are right, it wasn't bad at all. It was horrible.

Did you even watch the EDM/CGY series?

I did.

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Originally Posted by DoubleK

Aside from Game 1, Tkachuk was a minus player with 0 points in the last three games of the series.

You know that plus/minus is more of a team stat, right? Just as much as a goalie's save% is a team stat. Players also do more on the ice than simply putting points up. Players like Tkachuk make themselves useful both on and off the puck. That work isn't reflected on the scoreboard or on outdated stats like plus/minus.

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Originally Posted by DoubleK

The Flames lost that series because their top players didn't show up. He was one of them.

Flames lost because Connor McDavid's and Leon Draisaitl's (and Evander Kane's) Edmonton Oilers showed up for once.

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Originally Posted by DoubleK

Hot Take Hikka indeed.

Try not to be too condescending.

DoubleK · #**178** Posted **Jul 26, 2022, 2:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by JHikka

You know that plus/minus is more of a team stat, right? Just as much as a goalie's save% is a team stat.

A strawman and a non-sequitur back to back! This does nothing to advance your argument that Tkachuk's performance in the playoffs "wasn't bad". He scored in 2 out of 12 games they played, not good enough. The top line was underwater in xGF% in 3/5 against the Oilers and barely above water in the other two. That includes the 9-6 game.

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Originally Posted by JHikka

Try not to be too condescending.

You first.

Coldrsx · #**179** Posted **Jul 26, 2022, 6:55 PM**

Puljujarvi, Oilers agree to one-year deal, avoid arbitration
TSN

Harrison · #**180** Posted **Jul 26, 2022, 7:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by JHikka

Flames lost because Connor McDavid's and Leon Draisaitl's (and Evander Kane's) Edmonton Oilers showed up for once.

I hope you are not a Leafs fan...