noirish Los Angeles

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by Downtownkid

The main Building was on 6th street corner with Gladys Ave. It appears they used some houses that were located
behind the main building across the alley on Gladys Ave for employee housing and for the clinic extension.

This is great Downtownkid! Where were you last night when I was going through all those directories?



Dkid, I believe this is Gladys street or an adjacent street in the area before it was re-zoned.

ethnically mixed neighborhood

ethnicity, culture and identity in los angeles




Read more HERE
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update:

I finally found a photograph (it's originally from lapl so maybe we've seen it before on nla)

"Pastor Bromley Oxnam's All Nations Church at 810-816-824 E. 6th Street."


artandculture

My kind of boys club; they're receiving a delivery of OH Henry! candy bars.


If I'm reading this correctly, the house on the left is the All Nations Library and Clinic.

DETAIL


postscript:

"Today, the Church of All Nations, what is left of it, sits abandoned, falling apart in downtown Los Angeles.
Only 80 years ago, it was at the center of a progressive vision for reform in the city.
But the brickbats began to fly and Bromley Oxnam soon departed, red-baited out of the city
because organizations like the 'Better America Federation, hated him, hated his vision,
and hated how Oxnam defined 'Americanism."

from metropolis in the making. los angeles in the 1920s

I'm not sure when this was written...so 'today' is unknown.
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[Scott Charles]

Originally Posted by 3940dxer

i was re-watching never give a sucker an even break, which is my favorite w.c. Fields film and i believe his last. The ending features a fast paced, rambunctious scene in which w.c. Races through the streets of l.a. To rush a woman to a hospital. There are a lot of outdoor shots and intriguing glimpses of the city, but the scenes move so quickly that it's hard to identify anything.

Does anyone know the locations of any of those shots? One section looks like the cahuenga pass, and others look like the hyperion and/or glendale ave. Viaducts near the l.a. River.

This youtube link has the complete film, in excellent quality: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcomeixqddi. The car scene starts at about 1:05:00.



hyperion viaduct? toluca lake area, maybe riverside drive?

While working my way through this thread I stumbled upon the post above, which didn’t receive any responses. I hope it’s not too late to respond to it now!

Author John Bengtson has an entire webpage devoted to locations in the film, which can be found here:

https://silentlocations.wordpress.co...-chase-part-2/

… and if I may pat myself on the back for a bit, I provided Mr. Bengtson with the one location he was unable to find - he amended the post to mention my small contribution.

[Lomara]

Originally Posted by Scott Charles

While working my way through this thread I stumbled upon the post above, which didn’t receive any responses. I hope it’s not too late to respond to it now!

Author John Bengtson has an entire webpage devoted to locations in the film, which can be found here:

https://silentlocations.wordpress.co...-chase-part-2/

… and if I may pat myself on the back for a bit, I provided Mr. Bengtson with the one location he was unable to find - he amended the post to mention my small contribution.

GaylordWilshire found the location as Waverly Drive crossing above Hyperion, and posted it in the very next post.

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

Hyperion Viaduct from Waverly Drive overpass:

GSV July 2014


From the HV roadway under the overpass:

GSV July 2014



10106 Riverside Drive:

GSV Oct 2011


LAPL

[Scott Charles]

Originally Posted by Lomara

GaylordWilshire found the location as Waverly Drive crossing above Hyperion, and posted it in the very next post.

HOW on God’s green earth did I possibly miss that? I must be losing my mind… apologies to all.

Having said that, the page on John Bengtson’s website documents nearly every single location in the movie, not just those two.

[Downtownkid]

reference All Nations-Ethereal posting-The book explains about those two houses and two lots were donated to all nation, about 1920 by J. E. Carr. They were located at on 6th st between Stanford and Gladys. They were described as 3 story houses later they were described as two story homes. Base on your photo they are actually two story houses. Bishop G BROMEY Oxnam creator of All Nations was in charge of All Nations then till 1927. The houses were demolished in 1927 to make way for 3 story brick bldg. Then Robert Pastor Mc Kibben was in charge of that Facility until 1952. The book is 310 pages so it has this type of information but it doesn't have a photo of those two houses. Most of the photos in the book are of the people evolved with All Nations and his family.

Anyway on a different note- MGM PR for Community Chess short video "Andy Hardy's Dilemma" shows the day care center inside All Nations. We see all these nice photos of by gone buildings but it is not often to the the interior. especially in a video.

[Slauson Slim]

Ethereal Reality - thanks for the Engineer Bill show link. Fascinating. As a child I always thought he was so old.....

Another aside, there's the bit where Casey throws the mail sack from a moving train. My father used to work the railway mail, on passenger trains running between LA and Chicago and back, sorting, picking up and distributing mail along the way. This was phased out eventually by the rise of air travel.

[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by Slauson Slim

She wasn't the only television personality in our family - I was on the Bill Stulla Engineer Bill show for my fifth birthday.

Thanks, SS, I have heard of the Engineer Bill Show from one of those "Things That Aren't Here Anymore" programs.

[John Maddox Roberts]

I remember Sheriff John from the same era. "Put Another Candle on my Birthday Cake."

[LA Kitty Kat]

I drank a lot of milk with Engineer Bill!

[AlvaroLegido]

Originally Posted by Scott Charles

HOW on God’s green earth did I possibly miss that? I must be losing my mind… apologies to all. .

Don't apologize. You are doing so well since your latest arrival that this distraction plays in favour of being a complete noirisher. You'll soon know everybody's little flaws here. They add to the ambience.

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by LA Kitty Kat

I drank a lot of milk with Engineer Bill!

My mother would not allow for something that would ''spoil'' our dinner...she was total old skool. I recall the show was just before our meal time.

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by LA Kitty Kat

I drank a lot of milk with Engineer Bill!

KittyKat, did you use one of these milk glasses?




foodtracks

THE ACTUAL GLASS

worthpoint

what, pray-tel, is a .........................................................................................................Gandy Dancer?




Engineer Bill even had a record: Green Light-Red Light. [ca.1958]




I sort of feel sorry for the lactose intolerant kids

[Krell58]

Oh, the evil that came to Waverly Drive.

[LA Kitty Kat]

No, E_R, no special glasses! I've actually never seen the glasses before, so they're new to me.

I disliked milk as a child, so it was one way my parents got me to drink some.

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by Krell58

Oh, the evil that came to Waverly Drive.

Do you mean, specifically, 3301 Waverly Drive?

The morning after / Aug 11, 1969

LaBianca

[Earl Boebert]

I am hesitant to post this, because it is a bit off topic and I don't want to start a thread hijack but --

This is L.A. Noir, which I hope is expansive enough encompass film noir set outside of L.A., at least for a post or two. Many of us have seen every noir film ever made, whatever the setting. And so for those who love the genre, I would like to tip you to a new one, in a somewhat unusual venue.

BBC has started to do a series from the Maigret novellas, set in Paris in the 1950s, and starring, of all unlikely people, Rowan Atkinson (Blackadder/Mr. Bean). The first one, "Maigret Sets a Trap," is as nifty a film noir as you could hope for. Not L.A., alas, but the plot, the characters, the period and the cinematography are just IMHO perfect.

Streaming on britbox.com. You can use your free trial period to see it. And please, this is just a tip, not intended to turn into a diversion.

Cheers,

Earl

[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

what, pray-tel, is a .........................................................................................................Gandy Dancer?

From Wikipedia:

Gandy dancer is a slang term used for early railroad workers in the United States, more formally referred to as "section hands", who laid and maintained railroad tracks in the years before the work was done by machines. The British equivalents of the term gandy dancer are "navvy" (from "navigator"), originally builders of canals or "inland navigations", for builders of railway lines, and "platelayer" for workers employed to inspect and maintain the track. In the Southwestern United States and Mexico, Mexican and Mexican-American track workers were colloquially "traqueros".

...

There are various theories about the derivation of the term, but most refer to the "dancing" movements of the workers using a specially manufactured 5-foot (1.52 m) "lining" bar, which came to be called a "gandy", as a lever to keep the tracks in alignment.

From YouTube:

The Gandy Dancers - Engineer Bill 1958 HQ Novelty Train Songs

• Video Link

[ethereal_reality]

Thanks Hoss. I don't believe I have ever heard the term Gandy Dancer before. (I've led a sheltered life )



'mystery' location. (sort of)

"1928 Los Angeles Sunset Strip near Clark Larson's Vegetable Stand Store"


EBAY

I decided to go see if any remnants were left of this place. (although I seriously doubted it)
One thing I didn't know/or remember is that Clark St. is what San Vicente Blvd becomes when it crosses over Sunset.

p.s. It must say Larson's on the back..because I don't see it anywhere on the front.
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update:

back has in pencil-
"H.O. Larsons Veg. Stand 1928, Sunset Near Clark"

[Scott Charles]

Originally Posted by AlvaroLegido

Don't apologize. You are doing so well since your latest arrival that this distraction plays in favour of being a complete noirisher. You'll soon know everybody's little flaws here. They add to the ambience.

Thank-you, AlvaroLegido! That makes me feel a lot better.

[ethereal_reality]

Your posts have been a breath of fresh air Scott Charles. Pleeeeeeaze keep contributing.

I've made abysmal mistakes (and some silly ones too)
Early in the thread I wrote that I could see an airplane's entrails in the sky of an old photograph. GW pointed out, rather gleefully, that I must have meant contrails.