How Houston Is Becoming America’s Next Dense City - Page 6

The North One · #**101** Posted **Dec 20, 2019, 7:16 AM**

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Originally Posted by badrunner

Because they are absolutely beautiful trees. They're not for shade.

The way they're morphed in urban areas is not pretty to me. They're usually horribly trimmed and look nothing like their wild forms.

There's no such thing as a happy tree, those are perceived and attached connotations.

JManc · #**102** Posted **Dec 20, 2019, 9:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by The North One

There's no such thing as a happy tree, those are perceived and attached connotations.

Bob Ross would beg to differ...

KevinFromTexas · #**103** Posted **Dec 20, 2019, 10:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by bilbao58

I'm tree-illiterate, so I don't know what these are, but a lot of them are being planted lately. Live Oaks are great but they're hell on streets and especially sidewalks.

The Water Works. Buffalo Bayou Park. by bill barfield, on Flickr

Those are sycamores. They suck. They're planting them all over the suburbs here, too. The one in our neighbor's backyard that was about 60 feet all and probably close to 100 years old had become hollow. One night during a strong cold front, the top 20 feet of the tree simply broke off and fell into their yard. It clipped the back of their house and missed their bedroom by only 10 feet. I would gladly take our live oaks that we have over sycamores.

bilbao58 · #**104** Posted **Dec 20, 2019, 3:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by lio45

Either Houston still looks like this today, or else it obviously has become denser since then. (As you say though, "ignorance" wouldn't be a first for Crawford.)

Shaking my head. That photo is 40 years old. That area has looked like this for 10 years now and continues to grow rapidly:

New Year's Eve at Discovery Green by Jackson Myers, on Flickr

The Grove And Houston Skyline II by Mabry Campbell, on Flickr

Discovery Green Park & George R. Brown by Jay Lee, on Flickr

Walkway At Discovery Green by Mabry Campbell, on Flickr

The Grove Northeast Facade VI by Mabry Campbell, on Flickr

George R. Brown Convention Center by Mabry Campbell, on Flickr

Biggio's at George R. Brown by Mabry Campbell, on Flickr

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNmbwfrzI1I

iheartthed · #**105** Posted **Dec 20, 2019, 4:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by badrunner

Because they are absolutely beautiful trees. They're not for shade. They're totally frivolous. That's the whole point. They're fun, happy, festive trees. They look like pom poms or fireworks exploding. Take a good look at that Sugar Land shopping center above. Very classy, clean and bright aesthetic. It just would not be the same without those palm trees, would it?

They aren't completely frivolous. Palm trees also absorb greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide.

bilbao58 · #**106** Posted **Dec 20, 2019, 4:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by badrunner

Because they are absolutely beautiful trees. They're not for shade. They're totally frivolous. That's the whole point. They're fun, happy, festive trees. They look like pom poms or fireworks exploding. Take a good look at that Sugar Land shopping center above. Very classy, clean and bright aesthetic. It just would not be the same without those palm trees, would it?

I lived in Corpus Christi for one year when I was a kid in 1970. There were lots of really tall, beautiful palms that became really tall sticks after Hurricane Celia hit in August of that year.

bilbao58 · #**107** Posted **Dec 20, 2019, 4:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by bobbyv

Seattle has pathetic density numbers as usual.

Those figures are 10 years old. Seattle, like so many other cities, has changed incredibly since 2010.

bilbao58 · #**108** Posted **Dec 20, 2019, 4:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by wwmiv

It was 14 in Kerrville at 6:21 this morning.

No way. Weather Channel says the low in Kerrville for today is 29. It's 49 in San Antonio at 10:17.

bilbao58 · #**109** Posted **Dec 20, 2019, 4:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by jd3189

I meant more of a way of distributing excess water around, like canals, dams, etc, in times of high flood risk There’s another term for it, irrigation was the first thing that came to mind.

I thought that was possibly what you meant, but sometimes people think ALL of Texas is like the West Texas desert so I never assume anything.

Crawford · #**110** Posted **Dec 20, 2019, 4:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by bilbao58

Those figures are 10 years old. Seattle, like so many other cities, has changed incredibly since 2010.

No city has "changed incredibly" since 2010 in terms of overall density levels. Short of war or societal collapse, that isn't gonna happen in a modern, first world society. Density is almost entirely a product of prewar development patterns and immigration preferences.

bilbao58 · #**111** Posted **Dec 20, 2019, 4:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Crawford

No city has "changed incredibly" since 2010 in terms of overall density levels. Short of war or societal collapse, that isn't gonna happen in a modern, first world society. Density is almost entirely a product of prewar development patterns and immigration preferences.

Does this forum have a rule against posting profanity? Asking for a friend.

Crawford · #**112** Posted **Dec 20, 2019, 5:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by bilbao58

Does this forum have a rule against posting profanity? Asking for a friend.

Is this a failed attempt at wit? What does this even mean?

Houston isn't gonna be "dramatically different" in the 2020 Census. Not even Seattle will be "dramatically different". Living patterns aren't radically different in the course of a few years, short of war or societal collapse.

aderwent · #**113** Posted **Dec 20, 2019, 5:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by Crawford

Is this a failed attempt at wit? What does this even mean?

Houston isn't gonna be "dramatically different" in the 2020 Census. Not even Seattle will be "dramatically different". Living patterns aren't radically different in the course of a few years, short of war or societal collapse.

Seattle Urbanized Area 2010: 3,028.2ppsm
Seattle Urbanized Area 2018: 3,479.8ppsm

A 14.9% increase.

Houston Urbanized Area 2010: 2,978.5ppsm
Houston Urbanized Area 2018: 3,433.9ppsm

A 15.3% increase.

iheartthed · #**114** Posted **Dec 20, 2019, 5:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by Crawford

No city has "changed incredibly" since 2010 in terms of overall density levels. Short of war or societal collapse, that isn't gonna happen in a modern, first world society. Density is almost entirely a product of prewar development patterns and immigration preferences.

Define "changed incredibly". If the population estimates are correct, Seattle's on track to increase its population density by 25%. That's incredible...

bilbao58 · #**115** Posted **Dec 20, 2019, 5:21 PM**

These two photos illustrate the change in Houston's inner city SFH development style.

old by bill barfield, on Flickr

new by bill barfield, on Flickr

I will let the viewer decide if the change has been "incredible" and/or "radical."

bilbao58 · #**116** Posted **Dec 20, 2019, 5:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by iheartthed

Define "changed incredibly". If the population estimates are correct, Seattle's on track to increase its population density by 25%. That's incredible...

I suspect I wouldn't find Crawford's definition of "incredible" to be... well... all that credible.

bilbao58 · #**117** Posted **Dec 20, 2019, 5:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by iheartthed

Seattle's on track to increase its population density by 25%. That's incredible...

Considering Seattle has nowhere to grow in physical size, that can only mean an increase in population density.

iheartthed · #**118** Posted **Dec 20, 2019, 5:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by bilbao58

Considering Seattle has nowhere to grow in physical size, that can only mean an increase in population density.

Yeah, I've never been there but most of its population growth occurred pre-war so it was already well developed. That said, Seattle is on track to add 3x as many people this decade as it did between 1970 and 2010. That's incredible.

wwmiv · #**119** Posted **Dec 20, 2019, 5:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by bilbao58

No way. Weather Channel says the low in Kerrville for today is 29. It's 49 in San Antonio at 10:17.

Tell that to my friend’s dash temp in real time:

https://imgur.com/gallery/6KxVVlS

Ant131531 · #**120** Posted **Dec 20, 2019, 6:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by bilbao58

These two photos illustrate the change in Houston's inner city SFH development style.

old by bill barfield, on Flickr

new by bill barfield, on Flickr

I will let the viewer decide if the change has been "incredible" and/or "radical."

I just wish Houston built closer to the street. I think it's the worst city in the sunbelt when it comes to actually building up to the street and having wider sidewalks. It's a lot of density for sure, but it's not building it correctly...plus is there any commerical streets to walk to from these houses? Building density without a "high street" to walk to seems pointless.