NEW YORK | 175 Park Avenue (Grand Hyatt) | 1,575 FT | 86 FLOORS - Page 31

JMKeynes · #**601** Posted **Dec 17, 2020, 4:24 AM**

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Well these towers are always in a state of refinement, especially early on in the design phase. Supertall towers especially are expensive to build, and more so in NY. A tower like 1 Vanderbilt has basically 300 ft of vanity height on top, specifically because the developer wanted to build a skyline icon. They could have very easily just built a 1,000 ft tower. On the other hand, you have Barnett removing a spire that he never wanted, and said he wouldn't have on his tower. But the big towers like 50 Hudson and the Spiral end up being a little higher than planned, but not for the sake of vanity height. Same with 9 Dekalb.

It all depends on design, but yeah.

I don't know if they will give a full tower reveal. But they might. They said they would be back at CB5 with the design early next year. That could be the first week of Jan or Feb when the Land Use committee meets.

Let’s hope .

NYguy · #**602** Posted **Dec 17, 2020, 2:53 PM**

This tower will look great here along with Vanderbilt and Chrysler...

NYguy · #**603** Posted **Dec 17, 2020, 7:53 PM**

Just someone else's overview..

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NYguy · #**604** Posted **Dec 19, 2020, 3:22 AM**

Just some art work...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CI6KvnjsQLj/

JMKeynes · #**605** Posted **Dec 19, 2020, 3:24 AM**

I'm ready for an early Christmas present on Monday!

rgarri4 · #**606** Posted **Dec 19, 2020, 6:43 AM**

I can tell you right now, leasing brokers would be pissed that the corner offices don't have glass.

gramsjdg · #**607** Posted **Dec 19, 2020, 7:06 AM**

Yeeesh. Man, that thing really needs a spire, and a big one at that. Not for greater height, but because it simply wouldn't look good without one (if that massing ends up being final).

chris08876 · #**608** Posted **Dec 19, 2020, 12:45 PM**

Imagine the lighting on that tower. Would be cool if they deck it out with some lighting displays for some light shows.

pianowizard · #**609** Posted **Dec 19, 2020, 2:34 PM**

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Yeeesh. Man, that thing really needs a spire, and a big one at that.

The fancy spire designed for the 1 WTC but was never completed (to save $20 million) would work well here.

faridnyc · #**610** Posted **Dec 19, 2020, 5:51 PM**

With add a crown this one can easly become the tallest building in the united states !!!
It can have a +1900ft height !!

NYguy · #**611** Posted **Dec 19, 2020, 6:37 PM**

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I'm ready for an early Christmas present on Monday!

They would get more bang if they released the design then, rather than wait for the next community board session. Go ahead and blow us away.

JMKeynes · #**612** Posted **Dec 19, 2020, 7:14 PM**

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They would get more bang if they released the design then, rather than wait for the next community board session. Go ahead and blow us away.

I agree.

NYguy · #**613** Posted **Dec 20, 2020, 4:25 AM**

Posted in the Chrysler thread, some construction with views of the old Commodore in the background...

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...62#post9138562

Zapatan · #**614** Posted **Dec 20, 2020, 8:26 PM**

Sorry if this has been answered already but is it possible the massing will differ in the final design or is this supposed to basically be it? ( + whatever facade etc.)

I'm not totally sold on it, the tapering is kinda overkill.

Those Instagram renderings do look super cool though, I bet it'll grow on me.

NYguy · #**615** Posted **Dec 20, 2020, 10:36 PM**

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Sorry if this has been answered already but is it possible the massing will differ in the final design or is this supposed to basically be it? ( + whatever facade etc.)

I'm not totally sold on it, the tapering is kinda overkill.

Those Instagram renderings do look super cool though, I bet it'll grow on me.

That specific massing is for this tower. Facade details can be anything, but thats what they are working with. It'll be pretty much that unless for some reason they start from scratch. The tapering, like with 270 Park, is classic New York (in part due to zoning).

JMKeynes · #**616** Posted **Dec 20, 2020, 10:38 PM**

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That specific massing is for this tower. Facade details can be anything, but thats what they are working with. It'll be pretty much that unless for some reason they start from scratch. The tapering, like with 270 Park, is classic New York (in part due to zoning).

I absolutely love that massing. I hope that it reaches the whole 1,640'!

NYguy · #**617** Posted **Dec 20, 2020, 11:22 PM**

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I absolutely love that massing. I hope that it reaches the whole 1,640'!

I hope so too. He specifically said they have to make it fit in that massing. Refinements will probably be ongoing, as they haven't fully settled on floor heights.

JMKeynes · #**618** Posted **Dec 20, 2020, 11:56 PM**

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I hope so too. He specifically said they have to make it fit in that massing. Refinements will probably be ongoing, as they haven't fully settled on floor heights.

The Greatest City in the World just keeps getting greater!

Busy Bee · #**619** Posted **Dec 21, 2020, 1:50 AM**

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Just some art work...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CI6KvnjsQLj/

Not to be negative, but gross. Maybe the pinstriping on the outer edges and you removed all that silly nonsense going on in the center...

NYguy · #**620** Posted **Dec 21, 2020, 3:18 AM**

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Not to be negative, but gross. Maybe the pinstriping on the outer edges and you removed all that silly nonsense going on in the center...

What are you talking about? This is just someone's artwork, not what's getting built.