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Curious as to hear opinion on this board whether there would be interest in seeing the Tivoli exterior reimagined or replicated

Is the past the past and stay that way, or should we try to reference it .

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The Tivoli doesn't have a remarkable exterior that needs to be shown off.
It does not. But it once did. I just hope for something a bit distinct to mark the entryway to the theatre and its lobby.
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Curious as to hear opinion on this board whether there would be interest in seeing the Tivoli exterior reimagined or replicated

Is the past the past and stay that way, or should we try to reference it .

I think it should be a modern look. It will be hard to replicate that old facade and be cohesive with what I assume will be a contemporary design for a condo building (presumably with a commercial/retail base)

EDIT: love those film titles on the marquee.
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New Tivoli and Centre Point Plaza owners say Hamilton’s ‘next chapter’ is at corner of James and Wilson
The sale of the long vacant theatre and the adjacent plaza was announced on March 31.

By Fallon Hewitt
Spectator Reporter
https://www.thespec.com/news/hamilto...-hamilton.html

A pair of developers have announced their intentions to redevelop and restore the historic Tivoli theatre in downtown Hamilton.

In a press release, Aventus Development Corporation (Aventus) — in collaboration with Society Developments Inc. — made a joint announcement that they had purchased both the theatre as well as the adjacent Centre Point Plaza.

The properties are described as being “poised for the next chapter in the city’s evolution.”

Few details have been released about the project, which could see the revitalization of the languishing theatre, which has sat vacant on James Street North for years.

The building “was first constructed as a carriage factory in 1875, but by 1908 was established as the first in a sequence of theatres,” according to a city report from late 2016. The last theatre was enlarged to include a large auditorium in 1924 and renamed the Tivoli. The playhouse went on to become “a prominent vaudeville and motion picture venue” and is known as being the first cinema in Hamilton to show films with soundtracks.

That chapter of its history came to an end in 1989. After that, the Tivoli was used for concerts, religious services, live theatre and dance. But neglect eventually led to the city stepping in and tearing down the lobby portion of the theatre.

Back in 2013, Hamilton developer Domenic Diamante bought the Tivoli for about $900,000 from a charitable ballet ensemble run by his wife. At the time, he announced a plan to erect a 22-storey condo out front, right on James Street North. His plans included fixing the theatre and connecting it to the new tower.

What exactly the future holds for the theatre and the plaza is still in the works, Aventus Chief Financial Officer Chris Mlinaric said in an email to The Spectator.

He said they are working with three “prominent and well-respected” heritage architects to produce a report on the state of the Tivoli.

He noted that once developers have been able to review the report and discuss its findings with community stakeholders, they will “be in a better position to understand how we will incorporate the Tivoli and the adjacent Centre Point Plaza into a vibrant and dynamic space that (Hamilton) will be proud of.”

The Spectator reached Mlinaric with several other questions about the project, but few were answered as the companies are “working through additional due diligence before being able to establish a development timeline.” Mlinaric did however note that they have begun the planning process and the sales of both of the properties took effect on March 28.

In a press release, Mlinaric said the pair of companies are “extremely excited to contribute to the downtown regeneration.”

Mlinaric, who says he lives downtown, said he believes “that with a careful appreciation of the community’s needs, we can breathe new life into the Tivoli.”

Ward 2 Councillor Jason Farr told The Spectator that he’s met with the proponents of the project a handful of times and that he’s “encouraged by their enthusiasm.”

Farr said the project could be a “shot in the arm” for the downtown core, especially as the city transitions into a post-pandemic world.

“It has a whole lot of potential to help the rebound on a street that has been the poster child for the rehabilitation of the downtown,” he said.

Farr did however note that the news of purchase would likely “resurrect some disappointment,” pointing to the failed plans of Diamante that left the Tivoli and the empty lot out front stagnant.

“Fortunately, I’m a glass half-full kind of guy,” he added. “I’m feeling really good about the near future. They’re really not interested in sitting on anything.”
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I could picture something like the entrance to the Burlington Performing Arts Centre

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Hopefully the last article for a while, but Joey adds a few neat timbits beyond what other local news looks into:

https://www.thepublicrecord.ca/2022/...1#comment-9984

James North Tivoli Property and Centre Point Plaza Purchased by Same Developer

Aventus Developments and Society Developments state they’ve acquired the Tivoli Theatre property at 108 James Street North and the neighbouring Centre Point Plaza.

The assembly of the two properties gives the developers ownership of the entire north side of Wilson Street between James Street North and Hughson Street North.

Here is a look at what they can theoretically build with the existing zoning following the planning policies of Downtown Hamilton Secondary Plan

Existing Restrictive Zoning for the Tivoli

The zoning for the Tivoli site is prescriptive. [By-law 05-200, Schedule C, 451 (on Page 251)]

In 2015, Ward 2 Councillor Jason Farr pushed the rezoning through Council, despite planning staff’s recommendation to deny the rezoning application by land speculator Diamante Investments.

The Tivoli site’s zoning is a site-specific exemption to allow for a 22-storey tall building on the James Street frontage of the property (108 James Street North) as an accessory use to the auditorium in the rear portion (111 Hughson Street North). It prohibits the demolition of the existing single-detached house at 115 Hughson Street North.

The site-specific by-law “transfers” the development permissions from the Hughson Street properties to the James Street tower.

“The residential tower is actually an accessory and incidental use to the auditorium,” stated Hamilton’s Director of Planning and Chief Planner Steve Robichaud, in 2015 when the by-law was being finalized.

“If the auditorium was to disappear, then the tower component would no longer be accessory to anything other than a vacant lot. That would remove those zoning permissions for the residential component. They have to have the auditorium in order to get the accessory residential component.”

The principal of Diamante Investments, Domenic Diamante bought the property in a “deal under negotiation [which] would see Hamilton developer Domenic Diamante buy the property from the Hamilton-based Canadian Ballet Youth Ensemble, the charity run by his wife, Belma Gurdil-Diamante,” reads a 2013 Hamilton Spectator article. The Ballet originally purchased the property in 2006 for $2.

Centre Point Plaza Zoning

The Centre Point Plaza, 1 Wilson Street, is zoned “Mid Rise” in the Downtown Hamilton Secondary Plan with a height limit of 12-storeys. The entire plaza is part of the James Street North Streetscape Culture Heritage Landscape.

As a separate property from the Tivoli site, the site is neither large enough nor deep enough to construct a 12-storey mid-rise within the rules of the Downtown Hamilton Secondary Plan (DTSP) and the Downtown Hamilton Tall Building Guidelines.


The plans require 25 metres of separation between tall buildings. Nearly the entire plaza, with the exception of approximately 250 square metres at the eastern end of the plaza bordering Hughson Street North, is within the separation zone of the approved Tivoli tower.

The James Street North Streetscape Culture Heritage Landscape requires a pedestrian-friendly streetscape. 123 James Street North, constructed in 2015, shows how the cultural heritage landscape is applied to new builds.

The landscape envisions stepbacks at the third storey for buildings along James Street North.

The economics are weak to redevelop the plaza into a three to six-storey commercial use with a 250 square metre floor plate mid-rise building bordering Hughson Street North.

The existing strip plaza is fully occupied. Demand for Downtown Hamilton office space is low, with many units vacant.

The 2015 Council Approval Despite Staff Concerns

In 2015, Ward 2 Councillor Jason Farr persuaded City Council to waive parts of the Tivoli’s heritage designation to focus on saving the auditorium. The lost historic front lobby would not be restored.

To save the auditorium, Farr stated it was necessary to exempt the Tivoli tower from setback requirements, urban design guidelines, and to accept a narrower lobby to the rear auditorium than the City’s planning staff stated should be required.

“It is the opinion of staff that the design, accompanied with the location of height, scale and massing, serves to erode the existing desirable character pattern and form of the area,” stated City planner Edward John. “Staff maintain that the proposal does not provide sufficient urban design techniques in order to achieve compatible integration with the existing context and character of the area.”

Ward 5 Councillor Chad Collins said he had “some questions” about Diamante’s lack of history in developing residential towers.

“Someone has emailed us a couple of days ago to suggest that this might be just about increasing the density on the site,” Collins asked.

Diamante’s architect Drew Hauser stated, “In all honestly, the only thing slowing down this applicant, because they have their financing ready to move forward on components of the project to the best of our knowledge, is our development partner, the City of Hamilton.”

Farr gave private assurances to councillors that the project would be constructed.

During the final meeting to approve his Tivoli tower motion, Farr stated, “much of the correspondence against this proposal are almost taken verbatim from the staff denial.”

Moments before voting for Farr’s Tivoli tower motion, Ward 15 Councillor Judi Partridge stated, “it’s the timing of when this build is going to happen that I am most concerned about. So I’m going to put my confidence in Councillor Farr to stay on top of this.”

The New Owners – Aventus Developments and Society Developments
Society Developments is a Burlington headquartered company with over a decade of experience completing projects in London and Waterloo.

Aventus Developments website is best summarized as a placeholder.

Aventus’ Chief Financial Officer Chris Mlinaric is a Downtown Hamilton resident. He recently attended the Beasley Neighbourhood Association’s video meeting.

Mlinaric was CFO of Vrancor prior to joining Aventus.

What Could Be Built Combining the Properties

As the owners of both sites, Aventus and Society developments can submit a new proposal combining the two properties to potentially build two towers with a connected street-level podium while restoring the auditorium as required by both the zoning and heritage designations.

Before submitting a plan, the owners will meet with the City’s planning staff to understand their expectations. City staff will take the opportunity to understand what the developer desires to build.

This is an opportunity for city staff to address what they stated were shortcomings in 2015. They can seek a three-storey podium instead of a five-storey podium with minimal stepback. A larger more appropriate lobby design and ancillary spaces for the auditorium can be sought from the developer.

The Tivoli tower development rights may be “transferred” between the properties to achieve a new plan.

22-storey slender towers are more costly to construct per square foot than a more traditionally sized building. There are various “sweet spots” for mid-rise and tall building construction.

The Tivoli tower is none of those. The 22-storey plan achieved its purpose, upzoning and land flipping.

Section 6.1.4.4 of the Downtown Secondary Plan states transfers can be authorized to achieve the “provision of at-grade open space,” “retention of existing open space/park areas adjacent to private development,” and “conservation of built heritage resources and cultural heritage landscapes.”

“Extending” the Tivoli residential building onto the eastern portion of the plaza will improve the project’s economic viability by creating a larger floor plate.

An “extension” adds additional underground parking, creates more commercial space, and enables amenities to enhance the restored theatre.

Preserving and enhancing the existing parkette in front of the plaza at James Street and Wilson Street meets these three objectives.

The City and developer both benefit from enhancing this parkette.

A proposal, such as a three-storey podium across the entire site, with setbacks to a mid-rise form between six to ten stories, with increased height in the site’s depth and the corners of the intersection, is possible.

The key to gaining density is how the developers integrate the auditorium lobby into the proposal.

Hamilton’s Design Review recommended that the developers who own the Hamilton City Centre – diagonally across the intersection of James Street and Wilson Street – break up their podium into separate buildings to create a pedestrian-friendly streetscape.

The integration of the auditorium lobby, with a grand street entrance, into a connected podium can achieve the desirable building articulation which the DRP is likely to expect in this project.

In summary, combining the two properties provides a wealth of possibilities for a landmark building with a unique design.

The developers will be able to gain profitable higher density. The community will receive a restored Tivoli auditorium with modern amenities to create a vibrant cultural venue.

This is a project to watch.
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I think it should be a modern look. It will be hard to replicate that old facade and be cohesive with what I assume will be a contemporary design for a condo building (presumably with a commercial/retail base)

EDIT: love those film titles on the marquee.
bullshit - I hate this argument that it will be "hard to replicate" - at what point have we devolved to the point that we can't replicate what we made in the past, with much inferior technology, while still combining it with modern elements? Core urban does it all the time..

If this is the tivoli it should be restored to how it was, since it technically was torn down due to risk of collapse. Or at least the new design should respect the character of the streetscape around it.

I hate hearing this argument - give it to core urban and watch the magic happen. Don't give the excuse that we're too crappy now to make what existed in the past, it's a poor argument.

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I could picture something like the entrance to the Burlington Performing Arts Centre
ugh that building is so bland... class over glass.. it's like people only know how to make one thing anymore - right angles, glass, boxy jutouts.. it's such a depressing time for architecture. If it wasn't for liuna and core urban craftsmanship would be dead in this town. Sorry to get on my soapbox but I am a traditionalist and we very much have the capacity to still make beautiful work that can still be a combination of neo-victorian and modern standards. A building that is majority glass isn't really a building at all - it's a glass box - it's the architecture- the innovation, the craftsmanship - that's what makes people want to LOOK at a building, instead of merely use it.

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The integration of the auditorium lobby, with a grand street entrance, into a connected podium can achieve the desirable building articulation which the DRP is likely to expect in this project.

In summary, combining the two properties provides a wealth of possibilities for a landmark building with a unique design.

The developers will be able to gain profitable higher density. The community will receive a restored Tivoli auditorium with modern amenities to create a vibrant cultural venue.

This is a project to watch.
This is encouraging - esp the "grand street entrance" - that generally implies something that looks stately and matches the streetscape, and a restored auditorium with modern amenities would be nice. I just hope they don't go too modern. They have some wriggle room because of the building that was restored beside it.

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While I think it's technically possible to rebuild what was once there, it's likely cost prohibitive. Most old practices didn't go out of style because of large cultural reasons, but more relating to cost. That's why we see 1950s and 1960s design really popular today, and some classic old designs like board and batten coming back because they are affordable to replicate.

I'd suggest looking to Europe and Asia for better architecture of a modern type. Netherlands especially has some amazingly simple but beautiful architecture that we could easily copy and it would be popular and palatable here. I'm speaking to new buildings, not old ones in Netherlands and Europe.
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While I think it's technically possible to rebuild what was once there, it's likely cost prohibitive. Most old practices didn't go out of style because of large cultural reasons, but more relating to cost. That's why we see 1950s and 1960s design really popular today, and some classic old designs like board and batten coming back because they are affordable to replicate.

I'd suggest looking to Europe and Asia for better architecture of a modern type. Netherlands especially has some amazingly simple but beautiful architecture that we could easily copy and it would be popular and palatable here. I'm speaking to new buildings, not old ones in Netherlands and Europe.
The stonework I can admit to being cost prohibitive, but the rest was just fancy woodwork practices. Admittedly some of those may not be up to code anymore. Still for every argument I can bring up the core urban rebuttal, in that if a company really wants to, they can still get it done.

I'd be happy to see examples you had in mind, I am open minded, to an extent

To imply a burlington arts center replacement in comparison to what was originally there though feels like a hard slap on the face still though. My problem is there appears to be NO innovation anymore - I can list the go to "styles" of hamilton right here:

precast panels
picture frame like jutouts of concrete clad in panels
curtain wall majority frontage
windows set askew from each other for "interest"
stucco sytrofoam exterior for filler
weird metal jetouts for "interest" either as toppers or strange awnings.
a lack of stone whatsoever esp when it comes to windows.

this doesn't lead to any sort of building innovation - it's just lego building. Our city deserves better considering what already exists.
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bullshit - I hate this argument that it will be "hard to replicate" - at what point have we devolved to the point that we can't replicate what we made in the past, with much inferior technology, while still combining it with modern elements? Core urban does it all the time..

If this is the tivoli it should be restored to how it was, since it technically was torn down due to risk of collapse. Or at least the new design should respect the character of the streetscape around it.

I hate hearing this argument - give it to core urban and watch the magic happen. Don't give the excuse that we're too crappy now to make what existed in the past, it's a poor argument.
You took what I wrote out of context -- the bolded wording is part of the point I was making: "I think it should be a modern look. It will be hard to replicate that old facade and be cohesive with what I assume will be a contemporary design for a condo building."

It's not hard to replicate an old facade. But cost needs to be considered too, and that may not align with a builder's budget. Whether it gets done well is another issue, as there are lots of bad examples out there for every good one.

A developer could make the Tivoli look like a stand-alone building while developing next door. They could probably replicate what was there, while putting up something new with a different design next to it. I doubt it will happen because this new owner will probably want to maximize what they can do with the site by building some of the new residential/commercial portion on the empty space in front of the existing theatre. So I think it's likely not going to be a grand entrance that looks historical; I just hope it's got some uniqueness to it, some difference that makes it stand out and say "there's a theatre here" rather than just being another door in a podium.


Long before the internet, and modern architecture, and value-engineered buildings that lack "craftsmanship", I have to wonder if in the coffee- and smoke-houses of the day people complained to each other about everything looking the same. "Egad... yet another pediment!"
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You took what I wrote out of context -- the bolded wording is part of the point I was making: "I think it should be a modern look. It will be hard to replicate that old facade and be cohesive with what I assume will be a contemporary design for a condo building."

It's not hard to replicate an old facade. But cost needs to be considered too, and that may not align with a builder's budget. Whether it gets done well is another issue, as there are lots of bad examples out there for every good one.

A developer could make the Tivoli look like a stand-alone building while developing next door. They could probably replicate what was there, while putting up something new with a different design next to it. I doubt it will happen because this new owner will probably want to maximize what they can do with the site by building some of the new residential/commercial portion on the empty space in front of the existing theatre. So I think it's likely not going to be a grand entrance that looks historical; I just hope it's got some uniqueness to it, some difference that makes it stand out and say "there's a theatre here" rather than just being another door in a podium.


Long before the internet, and modern architecture, and value-engineered buildings that lack "craftsmanship", I have to wonder if in the coffee- and smoke-houses of the day people complained to each other about everything looking the same. "Egad... yet another pediment!"
if only we had those problems now.. they were probably complaining about women wanting to vote while street urchins shouted SHOIN YER SHEWS GUVNAH!

I do love pediments, and cornices, and literally anything that trusses up a building.. and yeah mine may have been a bit of a kneejerk reaction I admit.

Mind you, look at lambs building - traditional entrance, modern towers, so so much for that argument lol..

or the doomed church facade on james.. or the william thomas building - modern and contemporary fusions abound all around us..

but yeah them having that whole plot now to work with makes me fear they'll just boring podium it - we should have a rule, NO bland podiums - you can be as contemporary as you want with the tower, but the podium MUST reflect the heritage style around it - then we can satisfy everyone.
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Kind of generally relevant to downtown more generally, but also this property of course, another payday loan bites the dust, unable to be replaced. I guess if this doesn't get refilled it will indicate there may some actual movement on this:

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They will need to process a site plan application at a minimum and likely a rezoning, so I doubt they will be evicting tenants too soon.
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They will need to process a site plan application at a minimum and likely a rezoning, so I doubt they will be evicting tenants too soon.
I figure as much, but if they don't begin to lease out exiting tenants then it might be a sign they plan to do something.
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FC-23-053: Formal Consultation

"To develop a mixed-use redevelopment that reimagines the Tivoli Théâtre, and add new commercial retail and residential uses"
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"To develop a mixed-use redevelopment that reimagines the Tivoli Théâtre, and add new commercial retail and residential uses"
"Re-imagines the tivoli theatre eh.." that could be good, or it could be.. dark foreboding.. WHOSE reimagining..
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Some potential new information on the Tivoli redevelopment from the 73 Hughson Street North Urban Design Brief (PDF).

On page 4,

"3) 108 JAMES ST. N., ONE 35 AND ONE 40 STOREY TOWER, MIXED USE TOWER"


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..and yet that one parking lot remains entirely empty.. one has to wonder if it will ever be developed..

maybe they should convert it into a REAL park..
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