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GaylordWilshire · #**22521** Posted **Jul 11, 2014, 10:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

ebay

Looks like the rear of the Daniel Murphy house at 2076 West Adams Blvd...

From your post 6450, ER!

Flyingwedge · #**22522** Posted **Jul 11, 2014, 10:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

We've covered gas holders (gasometers) on NLA almost as often as we've covered incinerators.
Despite that, I can't remember if there was a gas holder near Slauson and Western.
I tried to used historicaerials.com but it's not working on my computer (because of silverlight). Can someone look it up for me? (HossC

) -thx.
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I remembered there were two gasometers in this 1929 photo, looking east on Slauson from about Alsace Avenue. Historicaerials.com just now seems to be restarting all its servers, but before they went down the 1954 photo showed the gasometers were at 60th and St. Andrews, which is a little southwest of the Slauson/Western intersection. They were gone by 1972 but you can still see their outlines in the historicaerials.com photo from that year. In the photo below, the large rooftop sign just to the right of Slauson is for the West Coast Mesa Theater, which was at 5807 Crenshaw, just south of Slauson:

USCDL -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...ll170/id/13073

West Coast Mesa Theater:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8707
http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/1035

GaylordWilshire · #**22523** Posted **Jul 11, 2014, 10:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

The architecture of the Hotel Rookwood is also interesting, with it's fairly unique side arches.

same panorama http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...5/id/923/rec/1

Design wise, I'm not sure what was gained by this. Was it purely ornamental?
It seems they gave up a lot of apartment space.

Are we sure the building with the arches is part of the Rookwood?

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Originally Posted by FredH

GW should not mind that one, since the only thing it blocks the view of is a freeway! It was brought to Santa Barbara by a seaman in 1876 and transplanted to its current location a year later.

I'll let this one go...

ethereal_reality · #**22524** Posted **Jul 11, 2014, 11:07 PM**

You're right GW. It's the building next to the Hotel Rookwood.
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Hollywood Sports Garden planned for 3rd and Fairfax.

http://libraryarchives.metro.net/DPG...g_1938_Dec.pdf

This would have been an art deco lover's dream!

http://libraryarchives.metro.net/DPG...g_1938_Dec.pdf
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ethereal_reality · #**22525** Posted **Jul 11, 2014, 11:31 PM**

HossC and Flyingwedge, you just helped me solve a mystery.
Here's that 'milk bottle' I posted a couple weeks ago looking for the location. (note the gas holder at right)

ebay

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Originally Posted by HossC

Here's a view from 1954, and it looks like there were two large, cylindrical structures on S St Andrews Place, just above W 60th Street.
Both are gone by 1972, although the outline of where the lower one once stood can still be made out.

Historic Aerials

It's actually visible in the photograph Flyingwedge just posted!

1929

USC/originally posted by Flyingwedge

Pretty cool wouldn't you say?

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Flyingwedge · #**22526** Posted **Jul 11, 2014, 11:35 PM**

The 1927 Sanborn Maps show those gasometers southwest of Slauson/Western -- one was 300 feet high! (there's some overlap; the Compressor building is on both maps, but is labeled on only the lower one):

LAPL

Flyingwedge · #**22527** Posted **Jul 12, 2014, 12:12 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

HossC and Flyingwedge, you just helped me solve a mystery.
Here's that 'milk bottle' I posted a couple weeks ago. (note the gas holder at right)

ebay

It's actually visible in the photograph Flyingwedge just posted!

1929

USC/originally posted by Flyingwedge

Pretty cool wouldn't you say?

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Oh, so it's really the milk bottle you're interested in, not the gasometers?

The bottle must have belonged to the Crescent Creamery as shown on the 1927 Sanborn Map below (by the 1950 map it had become Arden Farms). Ruthelen Street at top runs parallel to and between Gramercy and St. Andrews:

LAPL

ethereal_reality · #**22528** Posted **Jul 12, 2014, 12:20 AM**

That's great FW, now I have a name to go with the bottle.

-Crescent Creamery Company.
(I'm surprised the milk bottle-water tower isn't designated on the sanborn map)
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By the way, I love gasometers, but that damn milk bottle was stuck in my craw.

GaylordWilshire · #**22529** Posted **Jul 12, 2014, 12:38 AM**

"Crescent Creamery" rang a bell:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13292

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7655

ethereal_reality · #**22530** Posted **Jul 12, 2014, 12:50 AM**

Now I'm embarrassed.
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Here's an exquisite interior. Hayes & Sanderhoff Buffet, 117 W. 3rd Street

ebay

reverse/with address

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HossC · #**22531** Posted **Jul 12, 2014, 12:51 AM**

It looks like Crescent Creamery became Arden Farms Inc as here's the milk bottle atop their building at 1900 W Slauson in 1932. The full photoset also includes pictures of their delivery trucks.

USC Digital Library

The sign on the side indicates that they were exclusive milk suppliers to the 1932 Olympic athletes.

Detail of picture above.

The 1932 CD lists the business at 1914 W Slauson as Western Dairy Products Inc. The Arden Farms Inc name first appears in the 1936 CD (below) and by 1938 the Western Dairy Products is only mentioned as a former name.

LAPL

I went back to the 1954 aerial, and judging by the shadow, I think the milk bottle is still there. The view below is a little closer than the one I posted earlier, but covers some of the same area.

Historic Aerials

ethereal_reality · #**22532** Posted **Jul 12, 2014, 12:55 AM**

Oh, that's really cool HossC. The shadow of the bottle gave itself away.
-and it's still there as late as 1954.
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Those Who Squirm! · #**22533** Posted **Jul 12, 2014, 1:54 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

The architecture of the Hotel Rookwood is also interesting, with it's fairly unique side arches.

same panorama http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...5/id/923/rec/1

Design wise, I'm not sure what was gained by this. Was it purely ornamental?
It seems they gave up a lot of apartment space.

I don't think they gave up all that much apartment space; without the side arches a building of this size would have almost certainly needed a central courtyard, or at least a light well or two, considering that every room of any consequence would have to have one or more windows. A courtyard, or lightwells resulting in an "E" footprint would have taken at least as much space.

ETA: I see the building does have lightwells in addition to its unusual arches, but still. Without modern A/C any large hotel or apartment house probably needed as much exposure to light and air as possible.

ProphetM · #**22534** Posted **Jul 12, 2014, 2:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Oh, that's really cool HossC. The shadow of the bottle gave itself away.
-and it's still there as late as 1954.
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It's still there in the 1980 aerial as well. The next one is 2003 and all the buildings are gone by then. There's a 1994 aerial in Google Earth. It's pretty fuzzy but I think the bottle is gone while the building is still there.

HossC · #**22535** Posted **Jul 12, 2014, 2:06 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

ebay

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

Looks like the rear of the Daniel Murphy house at 2076 West Adams Blvd...

I think I'll agree with GW. Here's the house at 2076 West Adams in 1954, and the gardens seem to match the picture above. By a strange coincidence, this house is almost due north of the Crescent Creamery/Arden Farms Inc building, and both are nearly opposite an intersection with S St Andrews Place.

Historic Aerials

I guess the house we're discussing is the one shown here in plot #223a. I wonder when S Manhattan Place was put through, because there's no sign of it on this 1921 map.

www.historicmapworks.com

Tourmaline · #**22536** Posted **Jul 12, 2014, 3:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I've heard of a flea circus, but a mouse circus?

Los Angeles County Fair 1937

Herman Schultheis/found on an old cd of mine

...and not just any mouse circus, this is an international mouse circus!

1920 Parakeet amusements!

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics29/00064461.jpg

Shriner Circus is in town!

No date (probably late '20s early '30s.)

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00079/00079017.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00079/00079016.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00078/00078990.jpg

Guessing Standard Air Lines is the Official Circus Air Lines!

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00079/00079015.jpg

812 S. Broadway - Tightrope walker!

1928

http://jpg2.lapl.org/theater2/00015436.jpg

Tourmaline · #**22537** Posted **Jul 12, 2014, 3:26 AM**

Anyone recognize the Dellamore? It was evidently somewhere in LA. It has a nice sharpening wheel to sharpen carving knives. Blind mice beware!

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics18/00018552.jpg

Tourmaline · #**22538** Posted **Jul 12, 2014, 3:32 AM**

Doc's Super Service Station "3705" Shell and Richfield, under the same roof? Different pumps? I think I see Gilmore Blue Gas (Must be super)

Undated

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics02/00020536.jpg

CityBoyDoug · #**22539** Posted **Jul 12, 2014, 3:46 AM**

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Originally Posted by Tourmaline

1920 Parakeet amusements!

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics29/00064461.jpg

Shriner Circus is in town!

Parakeets goin round and round....oh dear? To me, this is a very sad photograph, very sad indeed.

Tourmaline · #**22540** Posted **Jul 12, 2014, 3:58 AM**

W. Parker Lyon's best laid plans.

Sad story of the Pony Express Museum that once resided in Arcadia.

From LAPL:

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W. Parker Lyon, former mayor of Fresno and founder of the Lyon Van and Storage Company, spent hundreds of thousands of dollars assembling artifacts for his Pony Express Museum of Wild West Relics (AKA Pony Express Museum). The museum contained stagecoaches, the remnants of the first jail built in Northern California, part of the barbershop where Mark Twain got his hair cut, and thousands of other unique and historic artifacts and documents. The complex located at 1150 Kewen Drive in San Marino in 1930, moved to six acres of Lucky Baldwin's Estate in 1935. In 1954, after Lyon's death, his son liquidated the property located at 140 West Huntington Drive in Arcadia, selling the land to developers and the museum to William Harrah (of Harrah's in Reno) who vowed to keep the collection intact. In 1986 Greg Martin bought the Reno museum that refused to sell three guns he wanted, and put all the other artifacts up for auction.

Looks like a great collection and a lot of fun!

All circa 1937

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics02/00020913.jpg

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics02/00020951.jpg

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics02/00020935.jpg

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics02/00020905.jpg

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics02/00020917.jpg

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics02/00020947.jpg

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics02/00020907.jpg

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics02/00020956.jpg

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics02/00020921.jpg

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics02/00020910.jpg

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics02/00020957.jpg