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Old Posted Jun 7, 2024, 9:28 PM
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Most traveled U.S. airline market routes in 2023

Someone compiled the 100 busiest air routes in the U.S. last year from data published by the Bureau of Transportation Statistics. See link below for the full dataset.

Top 25 busiest routes in 2023, average daily passenger count, and total annual passengers
  1. New York City <-> Miami - Fort Lauderdale | daily avg passengers: 10,398 | annual passengers: 7,590,650
  2. Los Angeles <-> San Francisco Bay Area | 9,826 | 7,172,660
  3. New York City <-> Orlando | 7,219 | 5,270,170
  4. New York City <-> Los Angeles | 7,092 | 5,177,510
  5. New York City <-> Chicago | 5,054 | 3,689,190
  6. Los Angeles <-> Las Vegas | 5,008 | 3,655,880
  7. New York City <-> Atlanta | 4,704 | 3,434,180
  8. New York City <-> San Francisco Bay Area | 4,645 | 3,390,970
  9. Los Angeles <-> Seattle | 4,412 | 3,221,030
  10. San Francisco Bay Area <-> Las Vegas | 3,809 | 2,780,840
  11. San Francisco Bay Area <-> San Diego | 3,671 | 2,680,010
  12. New York City <-> Palm Beach | 3,598 | 2,626,430
  13. Los Angeles <-> Dallas | 3,582 | 2,614,610
  14. Los Angeles <-> Chicago | 3,543 | 2,586,680
  15. Atlanta <-> Miami - Fort Lauderdale | 3,420 | 2,496,900
  16. Washington - Baltimore <-> Orlando | 3,350 | 2,445,470
  17. Washington - Baltimore <-> Greater Boston | 3,344 | 2,440,990
  18. New York City <-> Dallas | 3,311 | 2,417,320
  19. Los Angeles <-> Denver | 3,299 | 2,408,450
  20. Los Angeles <-> Phoenix | 3,280 | 2,394,500
  21. Washington - Baltimore <-> Miami - Fort Lauderdale | 3,202 | 2,337,680
  22. New York City <-> Tampa Bay | 3,107 | 2,268,280
  23. San Francisco Bay Area <-> Seattle | 3,105 | 2,266,490
  24. Washington - Baltimore <-> Atlanta | 3,044 | 2,222,410
  25. Greater Boston <-> Orlando | 2,994 | 2,185,730


Count of busy routes per city
  1. New York City: 23
  2. Los Angeles: 19
  3. Chicago: 14
  4. San Francisco Bay Area: 13
  5. Washington - Baltimore: 11
  6. Orlando: 11
  7. Dallas: 11
  8. Atlanta: 9
  9. Miami - Fort Lauderdale: 9
  10. Greater Boston: 9
  11. Denver: 9
  12. Houston: 9
  13. Las Vegas: 8
  14. Phoenix: 8
  15. Seattle: 5
  16. Tampa Bay: 4
  17. Honolulu: 4
  18. San Diego: 3
  19. Philadelphia: 2
  20. Detroit: 2
  21. Sacramento: 2
  22. Portland, OR: 2
  23. Austin: 2
  24. San Juan, PR: 2
  25. Palm Beach: 1
  26. Maui: 1
  27. Salt Lake City: 1
  28. Charlotte: 1
  29. Nashville: 1
  30. Raleigh: 1
  31. Big Island, HI: 1
  32. Fort Myers: 1
  33. Minneapolis: 1

Full dataset: https://www.datawrapper.de/_/QTSPf/?v=2

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Old Posted Jun 7, 2024, 11:11 PM
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SF Bay Area is at #5 and #19 on the second list.

The routes mostly make sense to me, I guess. I would not have guessed NYC-South Florida as #1 though. The top five cities match with the five biggest CSAs (I think?), so that basically tracks. I'm surprised that Orlando is as high as it is - tourism, sure, but still.
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SF Bay Area is at #5 and #19 on the second list.

The routes mostly make sense to me, I guess. I would not have guessed NYC-South Florida as #1 though. The top five cities match with the five biggest CSAs (I think?), so that basically tracks. I'm surprised that Orlando is as high as it is - tourism, sure, but still.
South Florida is like New York City's 6th borough. Basically, if your not originally from Latin America or the Caribbean, then you are originally from New York City.
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South Florida is like New York City's 6th borough. Basically, if your not originally from Latin America or the Caribbean, then you are originally from New York City.
Yeah but instead of crossing a bridge or using the Subway you just hop on a plane instead!



I did know that the Miami/South Florida Air corridor was #1 on the East Coast but didn't think it would be #1 in the Nation.
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Yeah I knew it would be up there, but I didn't think that there's any way that it would be bigger than LA-Bay Area.
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SF Bay Area is at #5 and #19 on the second list.

The routes mostly make sense to me, I guess. I would not have guessed NYC-South Florida as #1 though. The top five cities match with the five biggest CSAs (I think?), so that basically tracks. I'm surprised that Orlando is as high as it is - tourism, sure, but still.
Fixed it, thanks.
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SF Bay Area is at #5 and #19 on the second list.

The routes mostly make sense to me, I guess. I would not have guessed NYC-South Florida as #1 though. The top five cities match with the five biggest CSAs (I think?), so that basically tracks. I'm surprised that Orlando is as high as it is - tourism, sure, but still.
Perhaps the New York area to Orlando could be #1, but I am not surprised. In addition to people from the NYC area going down to Florida, which is plenty enough, Miami and Fort Lauderdale are connection airports to the Caribbean, Central America, and South America.

What did strike me as unusual was putting Miami and Fort Lauderdale airports together (but Palm Beach is separate, per the same list). Miami is the big place to fly to Buenos Aires, Rio de Janeiro, and so on. Fort Lauderdale is where you connect to fly on budget airlines like JetBlue or Southwest to Nassau, Punta Cana, Montego Bay, and so on.
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Palm Beach is kinda it's own thing? I mean, Miami to Palm Beach is like NYC to Philly. Culturally, I feel PB is quite distinct from Dade/Broward. PB has a pretty small airport, and you wouldn't really fly in there if your destination were Miami (or vice-versa).
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SF Bay Area is at #5 and #19 on the second list.

The routes mostly make sense to me, I guess. I would not have guessed NYC-South Florida as #1 though. The top five cities match with the five biggest CSAs (I think?), so that basically tracks. I'm surprised that Orlando is as high as it is - tourism, sure, but still.
Orlando shouldn’t be so surprising given its 50 million tourists annually and conventioneer crowd on top of that.
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Palm Beach is kinda it's own thing? I mean, Miami to Palm Beach is like NYC to Philly. Culturally, I feel PB is quite distinct from Dade/Broward. PB has a pretty small airport, and you wouldn't really fly in there if your destination were Miami (or vice-versa).
True, residents of Miami-Dade & Broward Counties usually use MIA or FLL as they both have a ton domestic/international flight options and are more centered in the metro whereas PBI in Palm Beach County has limited/expensive options and is further from the bulk of the population despite it being next to downtown West Palm Beach.
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Looking at the list to see what is "surprising" and...nothing really is. I was gonna say Bay Area to SD (don't ever hear much about that route), but no that makes sense .
Folks are catching cruises or heading to destinations in Mexico.

19 and 20 are Southwest, or at least Phoenix is.
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The list seems to make sense to me. Nothing too surprising.
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Am I blind or is dallas-houston not on there?
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Dallas-Houston is 3:39 driving, center to center. That's close enough to be viable for a lot of people vs. flying.
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I'm surprised LA to Vegas is highly ranked. I figured more people would just drive.
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I'm surprised LA to Vegas is highly ranked. I figured more people would just drive.
The drive can take up to 7 hours in peak traffic conditions. Probably why they’re also building a HSR line connecting Vegas to Rancho Cucamonga.
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Palm Beach is kinda it's own thing? I mean, Miami to Palm Beach is like NYC to Philly. Culturally, I feel PB is quite distinct from Dade/Broward. PB has a pretty small airport, and you wouldn't really fly in there if your destination were Miami (or vice-versa).
To us who are from Southeast Florida isn't that big of a deal. It's all built up along the coast and Palm Beach county is only about a hour or so driving from Miami. We used to go to clubs up there all the time.

It seems like the driving time between NYC & Philly is almost double that of Miami-WPB.
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Palm Beach is kinda it's own thing? I mean, Miami to Palm Beach is like NYC to Philly. Culturally, I feel PB is quite distinct from Dade/Broward. PB has a pretty small airport, and you wouldn't really fly in there if your destination were Miami (or vice-versa).
Yes, totally. It might be grouped together, but a different world
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Palm Beach is kinda it's own thing? I mean, Miami to Palm Beach is like NYC to Philly. Culturally, I feel PB is quite distinct from Dade/Broward. PB has a pretty small airport, and you wouldn't really fly in there if your destination were Miami (or vice-versa).
It's still inconsistent. You lump all the New York City airports into one group because people in an area have options for airports: people in the New York City area can fly out of JFK, Newark Liberty, La Guardia, Islip, and more. People in Chicago can fly out of O'Hare and Midway. People in Los Angeles can fly out of LAX, Burbank, Ontario, and more. So is it unreasonable to think that someone living in, say, Pompano Beach or Boca Raton would consider or use Palm Beach as much as Fort Lauderdale or Miami?
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^ Palm Beach is kinda pushing it.

It'd be like including Milwaukee's airport into Chicago's numbers. And even though some people in chicago's far northern burbs do use Milwaukee's airport, that would still be a silly thing to do IMO.

Palm Beach airport to Miami's airport: 63 miles

Milwaukee's airport to O'Hare airport: 66 miles
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