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Old Posted Jun 23, 2021, 6:49 PM
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The only building I know of that had a night rendering is 41 West 57th street
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Old Posted Jun 23, 2021, 7:02 PM
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Old Posted Jun 23, 2021, 9:45 PM
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Monday's more technical CB5 meeting, with one super annoying guy, and another one worrying about the sunset on the Chrysler building (1:52). Ultimately they recommended approval (advisory), and it's on to Gale Brewer (who gets to stick around as a city council member for the upper west side next year).



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Old Posted Jun 24, 2021, 11:12 PM
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https://nypost.com/2021/06/24/suit-s...grand-central/

Lawsuit seeks to stop mega-tower from ruining the ‘grandeur’ of Grand Central





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June 24, 2021


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An 82-year-old preservationist is single-handedly waging war against a 1,645-foot mega-tower that’s set to go up next to Grand Central — claiming the behemoth building would mar the “heart of New York.”

Christabel Gough, the secretary of the Society for the Architecture of the City, filed suit in Manhattan Supreme Court Wednesday seeking to stop the project at 175 Park Avenue, which the complaint says would “completely overwhelm and resign to utter insignificance the grandeur of Grand Central.”
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” I came here with my grandfather when I was a small child,” Gough told The Post.

“ This is the heart of New York and it should be protected. Why do we have a landmarks law if not to protect buildings like Grand Central?”

Developed by RXR Realty and TF Cornerstone, the proposed building would be more than five times the size of the 26-story Grand Hyatt hotel its replacing on East 42nd Street.

In her suit, Gough marvels over the transportation hub that she says she “regularly frequents” to enjoy its “beauty, historic and architectural eminence and cultural significance.”
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She is accusing the city’s Landmark Preservation Commission of issuing an advisory opinion, instead of greenlighting the 83-story structure with a formal opinion, which is legally required and entails a higher bar for approval.

The LPC should have required the MTA, as the owner of Grand Central, to file an application for a “certificate of appropriateness” for the project — since it will alter the terminal and its viaduct, the court papers say.

But instead, the LPC allowed the MTA to merely file a request for a “report and recommendation” — a more relaxed and non-binding standard for project proposals, the filing alleges.

The LPC issued that report and recommendation in February.
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”The Landmarks Commission has a responsibility to take care of the landmarks — the viaduct and the interior of Grand Central — and I think they are shirking their responsibilities,” Gough said. “They are using technicalities to avoid looking at these proposals.”

The tower would open in 2030 with work not starting until 2025, the developers have estimated.

“ The Landmarks Preservation Commission effectively greenlighted a plan to alter Grand Central Terminal, one of America’s most iconic landmarks, without complying with the exacting standards contained in the Landmarks Law,” Gough’s lawyer Michael Hiller told The Post in a statement.
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” The commission recommended approval of a massive, hulking tower more than 13 times the size of Grand Central directly next door, resigning this legendary landmark to utter insignificance,” Hiller said.

Gough wants a judge to vacate the LPC’s February report and for the commission to conduct a review of a certificate of appropriateness for the project.

A spokesperson for both developers said the project had been reviewed and endorsed by the LPC and the State Historic Preservation Office. The rep said the suit takes issue with “a small piece of sidewalk and a modification to a passageway” inside the terminal.
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”The lawsuit has no impact on the transformative project and, regardless, we are confident we will prevail,” the spokesman said.

“As we continue to move through the land use review process, we are committed to following all necessary administrative steps, and will continue to work with the City, LPC, MTA, and SHPO,” the statement said.

MTA spokesperson Meredith Daniels said “we do not comment on pending litigation.”

The city Law Department declined to comment.





Surely she (and the Post) knows this will be thrown out, and wouldn’t stop the tower even if it weren’t. It’s beyond a waste of time.
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Old Posted Jun 25, 2021, 12:02 AM
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Wait, this skyscraper is now 1,645 feet tall? That is just a ruler (a foot) shorter than the original 1,646’ height.
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ms. nimby needs to get around more and see other transit terminals around the world -- in comparison grand central isn't all that grand looking.

now functionally speaking it is of course beyond grand, but that is mostly unseen.

not to mention the best view, down park south, isnt even even harmed at all by this tower. nor is the 42nd st view right around it.

you know how the view of it is harmed though?

by that hideous cheap and decrepit looking commodore hyatt.

so other than she just wants to be heard i don't get it.

this tower is already a jaw dropping conceptual design masterpiece, much more than we had a right to expect or deserve, so please let's not delay it or get it value engineered over frivolous lawsuits.
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ms. nimby needs to get around more and see other transit terminals around the world -- in comparison grand central isn't all that grand looking.

I think she couldn’t care less about terminals around the world, as that isn’t her mission. (She’s a known landmarks activist). But her standing is all wrong. Everything she’s complaining about is an improvement. And you don’t get to complain about the size of a new building with a 1,400 ft building standing next door.
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Transit improvements included in plans for busy Midtown corner


by: Greg Mocker
Jun 17, 2021


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Commuters, visitors and neighbors have been coming and going around the corner of East 42nd Street and Lexington Avenue for more than a century.

Another big Midtown project is back on track at the site of the Grand Hyatt. A new hotel, office and retail complex had been announced before the pandemic. It’s back on track and work will include creating better and more accessible connections for commuters.

Demolition of the existing building will probably begin at the end of 2022. Construction underneath the hotel should begin as well. Some storage areas and unused track beds will be rebuilt and opened to commuters.

Jon McMillan is a senior vice president with TF Cornerstone, which is developing the site.

He calls it a once in a lifetime opportunity.

“We sit on top of the connection between the commuter rail lines and subway. Our responsibility is to make those connections as seamless and smooth as possible,” he said.
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Developers toured the site with Luke Bridle, Associate Director, Skidmore, Owings & Merrill.

That firm is designing and planning the new building and transit areas.

“The huge benefit to the commuter is the travel distances are shortened. The number of level changes is reduced. That will mean reduced congestion,” Bridle said.

The project will include new elevators and be compliant with the Americans With Disabilities Act. Developers have paid for transit improvements in the area in exchange for zoning considerations from the city. Commuters from Metro-North and Long Island Railroad will have faster access to the NYC Transit system.

By the end of 2022, the MTA’s major project bringing the LIRR and thousands of commuters into Grand Central should be complete. Construction on the new building is expected to take a few years.
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Thursday, July 8th, 2021, at 6:00pm

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- 175 Park Ave, an application by Commodore Owners LLC for East Midtown Special Permits to facilitate a mixed-use office, retail and hotel development.
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I am confident that the developers have a tenant lined up and that this masterpiece will proceed once it has been approved.

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I think she couldn’t care less about terminals around the world, as that isn’t her mission. (She’s a known landmarks activist). But her standing is all wrong. Everything she’s complaining about is an improvement. And you don’t get to complain about the size of a new building with a 1,400 ft building standing next door.
I agree with you 100%.. everything she complains actually enhances Grand Central!

And to complain of a tower next door when 1 Vanderbilt is on the other side, is a complete joke!
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^ Not to mention that the building currently standing there has dwarfed Grand Central for decades.
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About an hour in, they get into it. Gale Brewer is this week’s guest star.


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^ Not to mention that the building currently standing there has dwarfed Grand Central for decades.
and is ... AN INCREDIBLE EYESORE!!!!
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Old Posted Jul 21, 2021, 3:10 AM
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Conditional approval from CB5, onward to Gale Brewer’s office.








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Is this tower 1486’ or 1643’?
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Is this tower 1486’ or 1643’?
I think the 1486’ option is floating around. Although I hope they shoot for 1600'+.
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Is this tower 1486’ or 1643’?
It was never proposed at the 1,486 ft height. We went over that earlier.
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