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[summersm343]

CDR Submissions for July are up!

[summersm343]

1314 N. Broad Street
-Templetown/Temple University Area
-13-story overbuild of Blue Horizon
-208 residential units with ground floor retail
PDF:
https://www.phila.gov/media/20210622...021-Review.pdf

[mcgrath618]

1314 Broad is fugly, but that project at Broad and Girard is NICE.

[summersm343]

Originally Posted by mcgrath618

1314 Broad is fugly, but that project at Broad and Girard is NICE.

Haha, yeah, not the greatest, but at least from Broad Street the Blue Horizon is center stage. Regardless of it's ugliness, can you make a thread whenever you get a moment? Thank you!

[PhilliesPhan]

Originally Posted by summersm343

1314 N. Broad Street
-Templetown/Temple University Area
-13-story overbuild of Blue Horizon
-208 residential units with ground floor retail
PDF:
https://www.phila.gov/media/20210622...021-Review.pdf

I literally walked past the Blue Horizon yesterday, wondering when the planned hotel would happen. I'm glad to see something finally moving here! The materials could definitely be better, but I think that this will be successful. I'm surprised to see that a hotel concept wasn't incorporated into the plan though, as the only place to stay near Temple is the Conwell Hotel. I believe that a hotel could be successful north of Girard.

[summersm343]

New Thread:
The Blue Horizon @ 1314 N. Broad Street
13 floors
165 FT

Thread:
https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...67#post9320167

[mcgrath618]

Originally Posted by summersm343

New Thread:
The Blue Horizon @ 1314 N. Broad Street
13 floors
165 FT

Thread:
https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...67#post9320167

Sorry I couldn’t make the thread, I’ve been traveling the last few days.

[PurpleWhiteOut]

Originally Posted by PhilliesPhan

I literally walked past the Blue Horizon yesterday, wondering when the planned hotel would happen. I'm glad to see something finally moving here! The materials could definitely be better, but I think that this will be successful. I'm surprised to see that a hotel concept wasn't incorporated into the plan though, as the only place to stay near Temple is the Conwell Hotel. I believe that a hotel could be successful north of Girard.

I agree, it seems short sighted to me to pivot to what I imagine will be advertised for student housing in a very saturated market. They would have basically had a monopoly on hotel stays. At this point, especially with the delay of construction time it doesn't make sense to bet against the hospitality industry now

[summersm343]

Originally Posted by mcgrath618

Sorry I couldn’t make the thread, I’ve been traveling the last few days.

No worries!

[mcgrath618]

Quick question, does anyone know when the Hilton Garden Inn was built? The one atop 11th street?

What was the rationale for building on top of the street?

[iamrobk]

Originally Posted by mcgrath618

Quick question, does anyone know when the Hilton Garden Inn was built? The one atop 11th street?

What was the rationale for building on top of the street?

Complete guess, but maybe something to do with the connection to the Gallery?

[Aaamazarite]

Originally Posted by mcgrath618

Quick question, does anyone know when the Hilton Garden Inn was built? The one atop 11th street?

What was the rationale for building on top of the street?

It was very quickly built in 2000 for the Republican National Convention and had to be renovated in 2004 because they did such a haphazard job-- the garage was already there, built in 1984-85.

[DIESELPOLO]

Really am drawn to that Tulpehocken station one.

That N. Broad 'Blue Horizon' one is tough to look at.

And that Girard Ave. next to Dollar Tree one is big. I think I like it though.

[SEFTA]

Originally Posted by Aaamazarite

It was very quickly built in 2000 for the Republican National Convention and had to be renovated in 2004 because they did such a haphazard job-- the garage was already there, built in 1984-85.

I often wondered this same thing. Why in the world?

Streets covered in E Center City;

Convention Center covered streets 3

I don't think, with all the extra expense, this helped the area at all.
Everywhere you turn you end up in these uncomfortable, smelly tunnels.
Every street from 8th to 13th is covered somewhere heading north from Market.
That combined with the expressway really disconnected from the north

[TonyTone]

Originally Posted by SEFTA

I often wondered this same thing. Why in the world?

Streets covered in E Center City;

Convention Center covered streets 3

I don't think, with all the extra expense, this helped the area at all.
Everywhere you turn you end up in these uncomfortable, smelly tunnels.
Every street from 8th to 13th is covered somewhere heading north from Market.
That combined with the expressway really disconnected from the north

I kinda like the covered streets in that area it brings a vibe to that part of the city that gives me a mix of NY.

I do agree though they definitely need to do something with the tunnels I think the one by Magginos is getting work to make it more pedestrian and clean.

[PHLtoNYC]

Originally Posted by SEFTA

I often wondered this same thing. Why in the world?

Streets covered in E Center City;

Convention Center covered streets 3

I don't think, with all the extra expense, this helped the area at all.
Everywhere you turn you end up in these uncomfortable, smelly tunnels.
Every street from 8th to 13th is covered somewhere heading north from Market.
That combined with the expressway really disconnected from the north

Agree with you. Besides the needed Convention tunnels, the rest are mostly awful, and the buildings on top are also ugly (or parking garages).

And if the Vine were ever fully capped, it would one of the most transformative city projects in our lifetimes.

[Justin7]

Tear it all* down.



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[Clark Park]

Some news in University City ... apparently construction work is going to commence at 43rd Street and Baltimore Ave. There is a piece of heavy equipment on the site and concrete barriers now partially encircle the property.

A situation has been dragging on for nearly 10 years for a half city block lot that comprises about 1.1 acres in a desirable residential district overlooking Clark Park. Initially it was called "4224 Baltimore." A posted notice says something about 6 stories, underground parking, bike spaces and a retail space on the ground level. It was a controversial project originally, because there was both neighborhood opposition and support for a luxurious building designed by Cecil Baker. I'll keep you updated.

[SEFTA]

Interesting

“Good Design” Is Making Bad Cities"
but It Doesn’t Have To
Searching for a third way in the battle between aesthetics and affordability."

https://slate.com/business/2021/04/g...4TvwGCnwVMMAqQ

Good Design

[Clark Park]

Originally Posted by Clark Park

Some news in University City ... apparently construction work is going to commence at 43rd Street and Baltimore Ave. There is a piece of heavy equipment on the site and concrete barriers now partially encircle the property.

A situation has been dragging on for nearly 10 years for a half city block lot that comprises about 1.1 acres in a desirable residential district overlooking Clark Park. Initially it was called "4224 Baltimore." A posted notice says something about 6 stories, underground parking, bike spaces and a retail space on the ground level. It was a controversial project originally, because there was both neighborhood opposition and support for a luxurious building designed by Cecil Baker. I'll keep you updated.

Update: site clearance has begun with excavation commencing; a few very large mature trees have been - I would guess these were 50-60 feet tall and at least 110-120 year old. A brief discussion about this project was brought up in a West Philadelphia Facebook page and it seems the New York real estate developer (Clarkmore Group LLC) has abandoned the original architectural design by Cecil Baker.