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Old Posted Oct 3, 2013, 3:37 PM
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^^well that's true but if they don't go for it it'll end up as a "played-it-safe" 800 footer or something (But I don't think that's what they'll do )
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Just saw this! Oh, Wow!! It looks 1,250 feet+!!
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2013, 7:21 PM
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This was the first project of Vanderbilt tower. A first study. I hope that SL Green choose another project.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2013, 7:33 PM
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This was the first project of Vanderbilt tower. A first study. I hope that SL Green choose another project.
I agree. At least it shows us they are not afraid of going tall. I'm pretty much convinced we'll see a solid 1300 footer here plus a nice spire.

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Old Posted Oct 7, 2013, 7:42 PM
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The top looks gorgeous and so does the base. It looks as good as Hudson Yards does, which is saying a lot. I think its great, better than I expected. The height certainly adds to the wow factor.

We're hearing around 87 floors...
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2013, 8:07 PM
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This was the first project of Vanderbilt tower. A first study. I hope that SL Green choose another project.
Agreed. This project is anything but iconic. Fat, boxy, and an awkwardly places spire. I'm not impressed. Architects these days...
     
     
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What happened to the moving elevator?
     
     
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That's a different site, and was just a concept.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2013, 7:40 PM
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The BOFA Tower on steroids...I like it, but I think they can improve upon this design
     
     
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Given that the Hudson Yards towers are getting underway with high profile tenants (or potential tenants), and the foundation work has already been finished on 2 World Trade (with 3 World Trade likely to rise by early next year)...how likely is it that a tower of this size gets built within the next 5 to 10 years...will there be a realistic need for that much office space (assuming everything that was said about HY and WTC)?
     
     
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Given that the Hudson Yards towers are getting underway with high profile tenants (or potential tenants), and the foundation work has already been finished on 2 World Trade (with 3 World Trade likely to rise by early next year)...how likely is it that a tower of this size gets built within the next 5 to 10 years...will there be a realistic need for that much office space (assuming everything that was said about HY and WTC)?
This will be prime office space. And yes, there is a need - Manhattan's office stock is so old that more and more (big) companies are considering a move to a new building.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2013, 8:28 PM
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will there be a realistic need for that much office space (assuming everything that was said about HY and WTC)?
I don't see why it's "that much office space".

Manhattan has 500 million square feet of office space, so even a 2 million square foot tower wouldn't even be one half of 1% of the overall office market.
     
     
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I don't see why it's "that much office space".

Manhattan has 500 million square feet of office space, so even a 2 million square foot tower wouldn't even be one half of 1% of the overall office market.
good point...then let it rise
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2013, 11:05 PM
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I don't see why it's "that much office space".

Manhattan has 500 million square feet of office space, so even a 2 million square foot tower wouldn't even be one half of 1% of the overall office market.
Probably for more modern space. Since alot of the space is very old. Either way it will help keep NYC competitive vs London, Shanghai, ect. More the better !
     
     
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Given that the Hudson Yards towers are getting underway with high profile tenants (or potential tenants), and the foundation work has already been finished on 2 World Trade (with 3 World Trade likely to rise by early next year)...how likely is it that a tower of this size gets built within the next 5 to 10 years...will there be a realistic need for that much office space (assuming everything that was said about HY and WTC)?
To piggy back of what hunser said, almost 90% of Manhattan's commercial real estate on a square foot basis predates 1970, so there's a lot of pent up demand for new space. Plus, this is about as prime a location as you can get. Park Avenue is probably a little bit more desirable, but this is just about as good a location as you could imagine. Should have no difficulty getting a tenant.
     
     
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I'm confused, is this an up-to-date rendering or is it an old one?
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The picture makes it seem like it dwarfs the Chrysler building. The only problem (as with the HY North/South towers) is that it's too bloated looking, which throws off the whole design.

If they slimmed the mid section a bit, it'd be a nice looking tower.
     
     
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If they slimmed the mid section a bit, it'd be a nice looking tower.
Probably true that it may look better with a slimmed mid-section.

The problem, however, is that this is Midtown office space. You need giant floorplates for financial firms and the like. That's the target market.
     
     
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I don't see this surviving the design portion of the approvals process, but they have to get things underway, and have a few years to get us a design.
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