The Great SSP Canada Cancel Culture & Wokeism Thread

[dleung]

Originally Posted by gunnar777

I'm glad you wrote this. I've hoped (and asked once before) that since this is meant primarily as a forum for skyscrapers and infrastructure, and not as a political subreddit, that we tone down the number of these threads.

Every couple of weeks it seems there's always another Acajack post that's like "Why can't Anglo Canadian popular culture stop espousing the view that we shouldn't be mean to certain groups of people?"
It's honestly embarrassing, and I don't understand why these forumers don't just discuss these questions on political forums.

I guess just once I'd like to see those usual suspects talk about buildings and architecture lol given the thousands of posts they spend fighting against social justice.

Also, are some people still wondering what's wrong with "all lives matter" in 2021? Do you go to straight pride parades?? lol

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by gunnar777

Yeah, you can think that, but you're not from here, and you aren't one of us, and you don't speak for us. I live in a "francophone" neighbourhood and some of my neighbours and I went to the loi 21 protests. Not sure if you heard about them, but it was kind of a big deal here.

LOL . Francophone Montrealers seemed awful discreet at the Bill 21 protests... signs almost all in English, speeches and chants all in English...

BTW I was in Montreal as recently as... yesterday. Spent most of the day in NDG. You guys got way more snow on Saturday than we did in Ottawa-Gatineau.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by gunnar777

But either way, you're just proving my point - you're an outsider who is telling us here in Montreal to accept your views, and it will never happen. I see the same thing on the Quebec subreddit - man those people detest montrealers lol. Anyway, QC does not equal MTL. Our culture is distinct from yours, and that's okay

I'd be interested in knowing who you think your cultural "brothers and sisters" are.

(You seem to think the metropolis-hinterland relationship is something unique to Montreal-Quebec, whereas it's a global constant.)

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by gunnar777

But either way, you're just proving my point - you're an outsider who is telling us here in Montreal to accept your views,:

No, what I am saying is that way more Montrealers than you acknowledge share my views.

[vid]

Originally Posted by lio45

That would be one of the enjoyable aspects of being in a relationship with vid: the fair division of labor in the couple (he always does all the dishes, I handle all the replying in the SSP Woketarianism thread.)

This will be our yard!

[MonctonRad]

They say opposites attract. Give lio a chance vid............

[vid]

Back in October I asked him for some photos, but he declined. My friends like his big dick energy.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by gunnar777

I'll give you Legault - west island is close enough, but no way would I say YFB or Jolin-Barrette count. I think in Ontario that would be like saying someone from Milton was a Torontonian - again, I just doubt you know the area well.
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The CAQ is too new so not a good example anyway. But let's look at the PQ, which you may think is "alien" to Montrealers.

Of its leaders, Péladeau, Boisclair, Harel, Parizeau, Johnson and Laurin at least were Montrealers. And of the others many are like Lisée or Marois who are from other regions originally but settled in Montreal as young adults and lived there for 40-50 years.

[Acajack]

Feminism and women's rights continue to with trans inclusivity.

(dead link)

[esquire]

^ I think the link is broken

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by esquire

^ I think the link is broken

They deleted it! It was a Tweet from Theresa Tam that referred to "pregnant people", and replies from women's groups and feminists who slammed the post for expunging or cancelling the word "woman".

It was noted by several that the word "man'' still seems to be acceptable to use (with numerous examples to back that up).

[esquire]

^ It's still there... the responses are interesting

https://twitter.com/CPHO_Canada/stat...86747899830272

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by esquire

^ It's still there... the responses are interesting

https://twitter.com/CPHO_Canada/stat...86747899830272

Some of them are transphobic or hateful, but others actually raise some good points.

In fairness to Mrs. Tam she most certainly does not write her tweets, and may not even see many of them before they're published.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Acajack

In fairness to Mrs. Tam she most certainly does not write her tweets, and may not even see many of them before they're published.

Dr. Tam...……

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Dr. Tam...……

Ah oui, c'est vrai.

[Nashe]

I feel stupider as I consume more social media.

[wave46]

Originally Posted by Vorkuta

I feel stupider as I consume more social media.

Social media is the crack-cocaine of media. Brief high, can't stop using it, feel terrible afterwards.

[LakeLocker]

Originally Posted by esquire

I have noticed this for sure in relation to the CBC. It feels like they are trying hard to check as many boxes as possible with their on-air staff.

As an example, their newest radio host in Winnipeg is a transgendered Filipino Canadian. They hired a hijab-wearing woman from Wales to host another show. Now CBC News is hyping Ginella Massa's show. And while I'm sure she's a good journalist, you can bet that some CBC management types were doing backflips over the fact that she's a hijab-wearing POC.

And yes, this is all reflective of a very downtown Toronto perception of diversity. The overall lack of indigenous hosts on "mainstream" shows (i.e. the ones that aren't aimed specifically at indigenous people like Unreserved) tells you that.

I really can't imagine a human being in 2021 spending more than five minutes considering the race of someone that they are hiring.

And even then it'd seem like something to reflect on after the decision has been made.

I mean if that isn't evil I don't know what is.

Can you imagine, John looks perfect on paper, but I don't like that his skin is white.

These conversations happen, not just in rare isolated circumstances but in virtually every left wing organization.

It is just so bizarre how people can purposely engage in such heavy discriminatory practices and get away with it legally.

Like this isn't philosophy for toddlers. If you can't figure out using race as a predominate selection factor is morally wrong, you've got a problem with very very basic reasoning skills.

FYI the racial IQ stats are something to remember to. Intelligence isn't distributed equally. So assuming you're seeking out smartish people, the representation goes even further overboard.

Eventually the IQ research will get out and you'll have an even bigger problem in your hands. Do you start purposely under representing people to correct past mistakes?

My guess is they'll double down once the IQ stats get out and just intensify their over representation.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by LakeLocker

Can you imagine, John looks perfect on paper, but I don't like that his skin is white.
.

In all honesty and fairness though, for a long time it was "John looks perfect on paper, but I don't like that his skin is black".

[someone123]

Originally Posted by Acajack

In all honesty and fairness though, for a long time it was "John looks perfect on paper, but I don't like that his skin is black".

I have heard this point a lot but it makes no sense to me. This seems to be a kind of time-division equity or perhaps long-term cosmic justice. Aside from having no clear value as a goal (equity "on average" over centuries not meaning much to humans who live their lives in specific periods) it doesn't seem stable. I don't see how generation #31 or whatever will be happy to go back to equality after #16-30 were punished for the discrimination of generations #1-15. It sounds like a recipe for problems.

The simpler system seems better. Try to give people access to good quality basic goods and public services (nutritious food and clean water, clothing, housing, health care, education) and hire based on competence. Right now we're failing the quality public services part for some groups and trying to make it up farther along the pipeline. You can have the most diverse CBC news anchor team ever and still not have clean running water in all of the country.