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Old Posted Jan 18, 2024, 3:22 PM
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HuntleySelby | 206.15m | 63s | Broccolini | Arcadis l Approved(?)

Another 200 metre+ tower for the city.

This project was approved in mid-December by council and now news that both towers have had significant height increases in the approval: 4 more storeys (now 63s and 206m) for the tallest tower and 10 more storeys (now 58s and 193.5m) for the second tower. Located south of Bloor between Jarvis Street and Sherbourne Street, this is easily the tallest project in the city not located on a major street/avenue.


In context with the new heights courtesy of @steveve and his future models. In gold below.


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Renderings below are the shorter version of the 2 towers before the height increases.


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Old Posted Jan 18, 2024, 11:05 PM
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Scores and scores of proposals, endless units of housing needed, yet the machinery of approval and construction moves as laboriously as ever.
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2024, 11:29 PM
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Toronto is sitting on hundreds of thousands of zoning approved units. Literally hundreds of thousands at this point.

Very few of them are moving to construction though, particularly a lot of the large master planned communities with multiple blocks of tower sites.
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My god, another catch up huge update... 76 towers! 11 towers over 200m!

Vancouver
Burnaby
Surrey
New Westminster
Coquitlam
Squamish Nation


Current Position --- Name --- Height in M --- Status


1 --- Pinnacle Tower Two --- 255.3 --- Proposed
2 --- Pinnacle Tower One --- 238.5 --- Proposed
3 --- Concord Metrotown Grand Tower --- 230.1 --- U/C
4 --- Centre Block --- 225 --- Proposed
5 --- Gilmore Place Tower 2 --- 215.4 --- U/C
--- NEW --- 6 --- Oviedo Towers C --- 214.6 --- Proposed
7 --- Citizen --- 210.8 --- Proposed
8 --- 10227 King George --- 207 --- Proposed
9 --- Brentwood Block Tower 1 --- 202 --- Proposed
--- NEW --- 10 --- Oviedo Towers D --- 201.8 --- Proposed
--- NEW --- 11 --- 4141 Lougheed Tower A --- 201.8 --- Proposed
12 --- Willingdon & Halifax --- 198.7 --- Proposed
13 --- Living Shangri-La --- 196.9 --- Complete
14 --- Concord Metrotown T 7 --- 196 --- Proposed
15 --- Concord Metrotown T 8 --- 193 --- Proposed
16 --- Amacon Rosser Ave --- 191 --- Proposed
17 --- Paradox Hotel --- 187.8 --- Complete
18 --- Concord Metrotown T 9 --- 187 --- Proposed
19 --- 3695 North Road T1 --- 186.5 --- Proposed
20 --- Brentwood One --- 186.5 --- Completed
21 --- Brentwood Two --- 186.5 --- Completed
--- NEW --- 22 --- Oviedo Towers A --- 183.5 --- Proposed
23 --- TriCity Central --- N3 --- 183.5 --- Proposed
24 --- TriCity Central --- N4 --- 183.4 --- Proposed
25 --- Brentwood Three --- 182 --- Completed
26 --- Whalley Station --- 182 --- Proposed
27 --- Brentwood 8 --- 181 --- Proposed
28 --- Pier West, West Tower --- 180 --- U/C
29 --- The Butterfly --- 178.6 --- U/C
30 --- 1059-1075 Nelson --- 178.5 --- Proposed
--- NEW --- 31 --- 4141 Lougheed Tower B --- 177.4 --- Proposed
32 --- TriCity Central --- N1 --- 177 --- Proposed
33 --- 1045 Haro Street --- 177 --- Proposed
34 --- Brentwood Block 2 --- 177 --- Proposed
35 --- Highline --- 177 --- U/C
36 --- Solo District, Altus --- 175.6 --- Complete
37 --- 6450-6508 Telford Avenue --- 175.3 --- Proposed
38 --- 1040-1080 Barclay Street Tower One --- 174.5 --- Proposed
39 --- Gilmore Place Tower 1 --- 173.5 --- U/C
40 --- 1040-1080 Barclay Tower Two --- 173 --- Proposed
41 --- 6000 Mckay (SS5) --- 172 --- Complete
42 --- Senakw Tower 9 --- 171 --- Proposed
43 --- One Burrard Place --- 167.6 --- Complete
44 --- Brightside Phase 2 --- 167.6 --- Proposed
45 --- Station Square Tower Two --- 166.2 --- Completed
46 --- 601 Beach Crescent --- 166 --- Proposed
47 --- Concord Metrotown Central Tower --- 166 --- U/C
48 --- GEC Education Centre --- 165 --- Proposed
49 --- Gilmore Place Tower 5 --- 164.4 --- Proposed
50 --- Wilson 2 --- 164 --- Proposed
51 --- 3 Civic Plaza --- 164 --- Complete
52 --- 567 Clarke+Como --- 162 --- Comlete
53 --- 13425 107A Avenue --- 161.7 --- Proposed
54 --- 1133 Melville --- 161 --- Complete
55 --- Highpoint --- 161 --- U/C
56 --- 6465 Dow 'Building A' --- 160.2 --- Proposed
57 --- Senakw Tower 7 --- 158.6 --- Proposed
58 --- Lougheed Centre, T1 --- 158.5 --- U/C
59 --- Hotel Georgia --- 157.6 --- Complete
60 --- Concord Brentwood Phase 3 Tower 2 --- 157.5 --- Proposed
61 --- Concord Brentwood Phase 3 Tower 5 --- 157.5 --- Proposed
62 --- 1445 W. Georgia --- 157 --- Stale
63 --- 1175 Pinetree Way - Tower A --- 156.7 --- proposed
64 --- The Sovereign --- 155.8 --- Complete
65 --- Brightside Phase 3 --- 155.1 --- Proposed
66 --- Heart of Burquitlam: Myriad --- 154.6 --- U/C
67 --- 1157 Burrard --- 154.4 --- Proposed
68 --- Oakridge Tower 5 --- 154 --- Proposed
69 --- Senakw Tower 10 --- 153.8 --- Proposed
70 --- 3695 North Road T2 --- 153.6 --- Proposed
71 --- T3 - Etoile Gold --- 153.1 --- Proposed
72 --- Triomphe Residences --- 152.4 --- Complete
73 --- 1450 West Georgia --- 151.6 --- Proposed
74 --- Vancouver House --- 151.5 --- Complete
75 --- Gilmore Place Tower 6 --- 150.3 --- Proposed
76 --- Smith & Farrow North Tower --- 150.2 --- U/C
Mark #33 1045 Haro as having gone tits up. Another proposal where Chinese buyers grossly overpaid for the land and are now the developerment being put in receivership under a flurry of lawsuits:
https://storeys.com/1045-haro-thurlo...-receivership/
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2024, 12:40 PM
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Toronto is sitting on hundreds of thousands of zoning approved units. Literally hundreds of thousands at this point.

Very few of them are moving to construction though, particularly a lot of the large master planned communities with multiple blocks of tower sites.

Cost of to build at a small profit in downtown Toronto $1400/sqft. Most potential starter-home customers can only pay about $700/sqft. $500k for a 400sqft bachelors unit is out of reach of a downtown median income individual. They've got, at best, $50k for a deposit and a $250k mortgage potential.

Something in the fundamentals needs to change for new condo sales to ramp up again.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2024, 3:32 PM
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At least Toronto isn't Calgary. Explosive population growth and a stagnant condo market until recently. New units for the next few years will fall well short of growth. Many other places without the development industry to deliver large scale housing have or will soon have severe shortage Toronto's problem is affordability and not one of not enough housing. Go on MLS. 1000s of condos available to let just in downtown. HuntleySelby won't provide affordability.

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Guys, someone on twitter pointed out, that if Toronto were to build all the proposed towers 150+ meters (skyscraper threshold) Then Toronto would have more skyscrapers than New York (assuming New York built nothing for 30 years). They assumed it would take roughly 30 years to clear the backlog of proposals to get them built.
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Here is a massive new Tower for Sick Kids Hospital. At At 2.6 million SF, it's almost as large as First Canadian Place. And it will be the second tallest Hospital in the World if completed now.

Source: urbantoronto.ca

Address: 555 University Ave, Toronto, Ontario, M5G 1X8
Category: Institutional (Health Care), Public Space / Park
Status: Pre-Construction
Number of Buildings 1
Height: 554 ft / 169.00 m
Storeys: 29
Developer: Hospital for Sick Children
Architect: Stantec, KPMB Architects




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Old Posted Jan 23, 2024, 5:13 AM
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Guys, someone on twitter pointed out, that if Toronto were to build all the proposed towers 150+ meters (skyscraper threshold) Then Toronto would have more skyscrapers than New York (assuming New York built nothing for 30 years). They assumed it would take roughly 30 years to clear the backlog of proposals to get them built.
Like I've said before, a proposal is when a developer expresses intent to build. IMHO, a rezoning application doesn't qualify as intent as there is no pressure to build. In 50 years, the approved application will still be valid. Point being, a backlog suggests that everything that has been "proposed" in the application information centre has serious intent to construct it and red tape in the planning process is the largest hurdle to overcome for construction to occur.

Also, the problem with the 30 year time frame suggests many competing developers and/or an even distribution of proposals. That is not the case. There's a few retail focus firms that own a disproportionate number of proposals with number of units in the 6 figures. For one developer to build t or partner for these proposed portfolios would take much longer than 30 years.
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I expected the inefficient cylindrical twin towers would not survive however, this new massing model for Sick Kids is duller than beige.

The 1990s produced The Atrium at Sick Kids and Princess Margaret. Of the many built since, Bridgepoint is probably my favourite (could be the spectacular panaromic skyline view from the understated rooftop area) and it's a huge downgrade.
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Thanks for all the new drawings koops56!
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You're welcome... still a few more to go, to take away those annoying gaps in the BC diagram:

https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=104187657
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Scores and scores of proposals, endless units of housing needed, yet the machinery of approval and construction moves as laboriously as ever.
Same thing in Ottawa-Gatineau. We have around 150 highrise buildings in the approved/proposed pipeline, and very little ground being broken, all while having an unprecedented housing shortage.
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Yup, Good stuff Koops.
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As a SSP database editor, there's has been an unprecedented number of high rises under construction and/or completed in Ottawa and with taller average heights in the last couple of years. The database is not currently up to date. With that said, there's currently 21 under construction which is down from the high in the last couple of years but significantly higher than 5 to 10 years ago.

There's a hundred storey tower being built in Toronto right now and I feel some aren't really enjoying shifting over to the next phase which may not break ground for three plus years. When did this hundred storey tower break ground? Pretty much when the first phase was ready for occupancy. There's a history of one phase (tower or block with respects to Mississauga) at a time with the developer.

Toronto's construction numbers are declining. It may be short lived as a couple mega projects like The Well and Mirvish Village have or are coming to completion or it's longer term with competition from other parts of the region.
It's not coincidence Hamilton's developments are gaining popularity on urbantoronto. The numbers are exploding for under construction
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475 Yonge Street | 255.76m | 78s | KingSett Capital | BDP Quadrangle l Approved

A couple of updates since last fall when this was recommended for approval.

The project is now Approved… and I inadvertently posted the height of the shorter 75 storey north tower which is 247 metres. The taller of the 2 towers is the south tower which is 255.76 metres (78 storeys).

Includes residential units many of which are likely targeting TMU (formerly Ryerson) students, retail, dedicated community space, parkland and POPs between the towers.



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50 Merton | 157.47m | 45s | Diamond Corp | Hariri Pontarini l pre-construction

This one has been resubmitted 6 storeys taller and now cracks the 150 metre+ metric. Don’t think they bothered to update the aerial rendering to reflect 6 more storeys (looks the same as the previous 39s version below). Condo and office mix.


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141 Roehampton | 186.3m | 58s | Lifetime | Wallman Architects l settlement offer


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Re; Merton Avenue

Welcome to Toronto. 150 metre boring people warehouses are pending approval dwarfing the ugly 15 storey condo built to the community design standards not that long ago and right next door to this proposal and dwarfing the signature tall tower on the corner of Merton and Yonge.
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Happy to see this moving forward with this design. I'll be happy to see the Courtyard Marriott buildings demolished and replaced. They are very dated and tired looking and take away from the vibrancy of that section of Yonge.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/47...v3j8?entry=ttu

We don't need cheap stucco buildings (They might be prefab but it looks as bad as stucco) along one of our most important streets in the core.
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This is way better.
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This design was submitted by an investment fund instead of a developer. There's a good chance for it but, it's not guaranteed. Construction happening notwithstanding
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