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[NYguy]

Originally Posted by yankeesfan1000

Anyone know what those buildings are just north of the Brooklyn Bridge?

Originally Posted by chris08876

Looks like it could be the plans for the South Seaport Tower.

I believe the closest development (bottom of last pic) is the Essex Crossing complex.

I think he's talkiing about the nondescript renders just north of the Seaport tower and the bridge. But yeah, that's the Essex Crossing complex at the bottom.

This tower will be beastly in size, but the residents there (I believe they're calling it Manhattan Plaza or something) will have awesome views in either direction.

It'll be an 800 footer looming over the east river and the bridges in the tradition of Trump World Tower.

[jayden]

I didn't realize how this area was so...isolated from the rest of LM?

[chris08876]

Hopefully overtime the skyline can be bridged to form a uniform extension. Once you get past canal, and along the street from East to West, it can start to feel a little isolated. Also, the superblocks might give that illusion, but on the street, its still a hustle and bustle place. I think this is more apparent on the Eastern side due to the bridge roads cutting through areas and the land that they take. Some extra fillers would be nice. Something in the 500-600 foot range to give it that downtown feeling.

[NYguy]

http://www.6sqft.com/construction-up...n-two-bridges/

[JayPro]

As I said quite some time ago, the area from this tower all the way to the Sea Port has a great chance to rename this part of FDR to the South Street Strip.

[NYguy]

http://www.thelodownny.com/leslog/20...ns-feb-25.html

Construction Briefing For Extell’s Cherry Street Project Happens Feb. 25

People who live near Extell Development’s massive construction project at 229 Cherry St./250 South St. will have an opportunity to take part in a briefing next week. As you probably know, the developer and its contractor, Lend Lease, are putting up a 68-story luxury tower and a smaller affordable building on the former Pathmark site.

The point of the meeting is to address concerns about construction impacts in the immediate area. It takes place Wednesday, Feb. 25 at 6:30 p.m. at the Manny Cantor Center, 197 East Broadway. The event hosted by the tenant association at Two Bridges Tower and Community Board 3.

[NYguy]

Now, with new, improved neighbor...


http://www.nypress.com/local-news/20...in-two-bridges

Clash Over Tower in Two Bridges





BY PANYIN CONDUAH
FEB 25, 2015

Residents of the Two Bridges housing complex on the Lower East Side sit down with developers this week to air their concerns about a 68-story luxury building slated for construction in their neighborhood.

Extell Development bought the former Pathmark Supermarket site at 250 South Street for $150 million and plans to build 790 units of market-rate housing. The project has raised a host of gentrification-related issues, including concerns about where residents in the area will be able to buy affordable groceries, now that Pathmark is out of the picture.

Once Pathmark closed, other nearby supermarkets raised their prices, prompting complaints from the neighborhood. Some residents say they now are forced to go as far as East Harlem to get the same quality of food at the same price.

Victor Papa, president of the Two Bridges Neighborhood Council, created the NeighborFood grocery guide last year for residents to help them find smaller affordable stores around the area.

But affordable food is only one of the concerns residents cite about changes in a neighborhood that has proudly embraced its status as an often-popular, if gritty, magnet for immigrants, first from Europe, then Latin America, and now China. In 2003, the Two Bridges Historic District was listed in the National Register of Historic Places. Now, residents fear the loss of other affordable retailers and services, as the neighborhood moves upscale, and the erosion of the area’s historic feel.

Because the Extell property is deemed an as-of-right development, residents have no guarantee that their suggestions will be considered. “We know they’re as of right and we understand that, but there still can be some political pressure placed on these developers because they’re getting tax breaks to build this,” said resident Trever Holland.

Other residents said the development of 250 South Street, combined with plans announced for a separate, affordable-housing tower next door, at 239 Cherry Street, will strain transit infrastructure in the area, which already is limited to the F train and the M15 bus.

Many of the residents are hoping to voice their concerns through the various community organizations they are part of, in addition to their shared group, TUFF-LES, or Tenants Fighting For Lower East Side.

Resident Vayalateena Jones said it is hard to make one problem a priority when developments are happening so quickly.

“How do you pick one? It’s all happening at the same time so It’s like while we’re organizing and this is happening and you need to have a voice right now,” she said.

Jones says although working as a group is beneficial, residents voicing their opinions individually adds power to the cause. Jones also explained that community organizations sometimes have trouble getting attention for their causes, at a time when so many similar projects are popping up around the city.

“We are a resident group so we’re not a group that’s seeking funding as much as we’re seeking to keep our apartments,” she said.

[NYguy]

http://www.thelodownny.com/leslog/20...reet-site.html

Neighbors Meet With Extell Development About Noise at Cherry Street Site





By Ed Litvak
February 26, 2015

Last night, residents in the Two Bridges area were granted an opportunity to quiz executives of Extell Development and Lend Lease, its contractor, about the massive project now under construction at the former Pathmark site on Cherry Street.

Extell is putting up a 72-story luxury residential tower and a 15-story affordable building where the supermarket once stood. The meeting was orchestrated by the tenant association at Two Bridges Tower, the neighboring property, and Community Board 3.

Although several people showed up to ask questions about the huge scale of the project and the tax breaks Extell is receiving, they were quickly shut down. Organizers said the meeting was intended only to address concerns about early morning noise, safety issues and other construction-related matters.

Residents said the pile driving operation at the site is creating an unbearable amount of noise and disruption. Sometimes their apartments are shaking so forcefully that people think they’re living through an earthquake. Several residents of Two Bridges Tower have reported cracks in their walls.

According to Lend Lease, the loudest work for the building foundation will last another 10 months or so. They expect to begin building the superstructure very late this year or early in 2016. On weekdays, workers are on the job 7 a.m.-6 p.m. Construction starts at 9 a.m. on Saturdays. Residents, some speaking in Chinese, pleaded for a later start time, but the executives said that would just prolong the project. They assured the locals, however, that safety precautions had been taken, including the installation of vibration monitors.

Trever Holland, tenant president at Two Bridges Tower, asked about renderings of the luxury tower. Months after construction began, on-site signage meant to inform the local community about the project is noticeably bare. City law compels developers to post a rendering along with building permits. The executives said they would eventually release drawings, but added that they were not yet ready for public consumption.

[Busy Bee]

Need drawings... Must consume... Ohbabyohbabyoh... Beep beep chirp chirp...

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Busy Bee

Need drawings... Must consume... Ohbabyohbabyoh... Beep beep chirp chirp...

All we have now are the massing drawings. But I've noticed that Extell doesn't like to release renderings. We still haven't seen the Nordstrom design, and One57 was well underway before we got a glimpse of what it would look like. It seems that with most other developments/developers, we get a rendering, and then work follows.

[njcco]

Originally Posted by NYguy

All we have now are the massing drawings. But I've noticed that Extell doesn't like to release renderings. We still haven't seen the Nordstrom design, and One57 was well underway before we got a glimpse of what it would look like. It seems that with most other developments/developers, we get a rendering, and then work follows.

What do you think is behind that? Do they feel it creates some kind of marketing mystique? Or do they just want to postpone the inevitable grumbling if their design is deemed subpar?

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by njcco

What do you think is behind that? Do they feel it creates some kind of marketing mystique? Or do they just want to postpone the inevitable grumbling if their design is deemed subpar?

I'm not sure, because all of the developments are as-of-right. Maybe Barnett is just a perfectionist, and wants to make sure all details are just right before releasing anything, or maybe he just wants to be able to get right to marketing once renderings are released. Or, as you say, maybe it creates a kind of mystique.

For me, it's just annoying, because I like to know what's getting built, crappy or not. It's ridiculous to have something under construction and not have an official render from either the architects or the developers. The city needs to be more firm on that rule, because massings just don't cut it (Extell hasn't even given us that for Nordstrom).

[chris08876]

I'm thinking its because of the clients they deal with. Marketing a tower such as this, where sales often happen before its even topped out or rising, its crucial to have a perfect 1st impression. So having something that's extremely close to the final product is key. When it comes to marketing to clients though, they are usually given info that is not necessarily revealed to all of us yet or the public. More of the who you know category and being at the right place and time, in this case, talking to a agent who is marketing the units for sale. This of course depends on the developer, but with the uber-luxury market, details tend to be reserved for prospective buyers and hidden until later. Thats why we sometimes see interior renderings very late into the construction process, but the reality is, they were out for a long time before that.

This can apply to many other developments, but the rate of details being reveled kinda depends on the project and/or developer.

[NYguy]

Meanwhile, we have to drool over renders like the Tower Verre for what seems like forever. That's usually the case.

[NYguy]

http://www.boweryboogie.com/2015/03/...s-worry-noise/

Pile Driving Efforts for Extell’s 72-Story Tower at 250 South Street in Full Swing; Neighbors Worried About Noise





March 5th, 2015
by Elie

he Extell Development Company is knee-deep in the pile driving phase of its monstrous two-tower development at 250 South Street (Sauron and Sarumon?). It’s the beginning of what promises to to be years of riverside construction.

Ever since materials and equipment were mobilized to the Pathmark-killing project site, the earthquake-style rumbling from pylon installation has been constant. It’s a busy scene, and the multi-million-dollar job continues despite a late-December stop-work-order for a caving sidewalk. The Department of Buildings revised the edict to a partial, but locals are rightfully still worried about safety…

Nevertheless, members of the enormous construction team briefed the community last week on the two towers, but did little to allay concerns about the dissolution in quality-of-life. Neighbors in the immediate vicinity complain about cracks in the walls and ceilings of their homes. Not only that, but the constant pounding is relentless and will last for at least another year! Project management (i.e. Lend Lease) seemed unwilling to consider shifting the schedule to provide relief. Even when CB3 District Manager Susan Stetzer tried bargaining to have work begin slightly later in the mornings (an hour later), especially on Saturdays. Normal weekday hours are 7am-6pm; weekends with after-hours variance, 9am-5pm. The bid was “taken under consideration.”

Between 250 South Street and work down at the Seaport, residents are now trapped in an echo chamber.

Meanwhile, there are no renderings of the development on the plywood, as mandated by the DOB. So, once again, Extell playing coy…

As previously noted, the Extell development boasts a 13-floor building for “affordable” tenants, and a separate, sun-eclipsing 72-story “Tetris tower” for market-rate living. The latter construction is luxury to the hilt, attracting the elite with 790 units and access to amenities never before seen in the neighborhood (bowling alley, pools, Turkish baths).

The local conversation still bubbling beneath the surface, though, is the “poor door” nature of the affordable building. Separate but equal entrances are not equal.

Both Extell structures are slated for a 2018 completion date. However, the DOB has yet to officially approve plans for the “affordable” building.

[chris08876]

Good to see that they are working even in this terrible weather.

[hunser]

... and another New York tower U/C. The city is one fire!!

[njcco]

Is this project too close to the river to make basement levels feasible?

[mrnyc]

so that is what the teardown i saw at this site last summer was all about!

[NYguy]

http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2015/0...ed_sort_of.php










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