NHL Thread: Season 2018-2019 - Page 79

HomeInMyShoes · #**1561** Posted **Mar 6, 2019, 2:24 PM**

So, is Columbus cooked? They've got a tough six games coming up @PIT PIT @NYI BOS CAR @BOS then a West road trip for three.

It's go or go home time for those deals they made.

kel · #**1562** Posted **Mar 6, 2019, 4:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes

So, is Columbus cooked? They've got a tough six games coming up @PIT PIT @NYI BOS CAR @BOS then a West road trip for three.

It's go or go home time for those deals they made.

Jackets have an extreamly tough schedule ahead. Boston 3 more times, home and away against Pittsburgh this week and a Western swing.I wouldn’t count them out yet but Pittsburgh has almost the “easiest” upcoming schedule in the League so I would say they are a lock for atleast a wild card but will probably overtake Carolina for third. Which will leave Montreal, Columbus and Carolina fighting for the two wild cards. And my bet is Columbus will be the team on the out.

DoubleK · #**1563** Posted **Mar 6, 2019, 8:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes

So, is Columbus cooked? They've got a tough six games coming up @PIT PIT @NYI BOS CAR @BOS then a West road trip for three.

It's go or go home time for those deals they made.

They are not done by any stretch. They at minimum need a split against PIT. They also have the most ROW against any of the teams they are battling against.

We will know a lot more on Monday.

suburbanite · #**1564** Posted **Mar 6, 2019, 8:10 PM**

It would be kind of funny to watch one of the most aggressive trade deadline's in recent memory result in missing the playoffs.

DoubleK · #**1565** Posted **Mar 6, 2019, 9:01 PM**

I'd have to think the owner was in support of it.

It's not like they really had any other choice either.

JHikka · #**1566** Posted **Mar 7, 2019, 2:41 AM**

I'd rather see a team go for it than limply make an attempt at the playoffs. Columbus is a team that needs some sort of playoff accomplishment. It's been twenty years with not much to show for it.

franktko · #**1567** Posted **Mar 7, 2019, 7:24 PM**

Good article in La Presse (in French) about the current format of the playoff (how it sucks).

In the coming playoff, it's almost sure Toronto will face Boston: none of these two teams should pass TB at the top and the Canadiens are no threat behind.

This mean either the #2 or #4 team in the league will be out after the first round!

And then, the winner will likely face TB...

But if the Canadiens can finish as the 1st wildcard team, then they would play their first rounds in the Metropolitain division. Likely facing Washington in the first round. A much easier (but not easy of course, especially for the Canadiens) route than in the Atlantic division...

"Not fair for Bruins and Leafs"
https://www.lapresse.ca/sports/mathi...-les-leafs.php

JHikka · #**1568** Posted **Mar 7, 2019, 7:31 PM**

Half the point of the divisional setup for playoffs is to ensure rivalry games are played/created more easily. Not too many rivalries bigger than BOS/TOR. The other half of the point for the divisional setup is to save on travel costs for the Western teams. This doesn't work out 100% of the time but it ensures some shorter travel in the first two rounds for some.

It's never going to be fair no matter how you design it.

Right now the playoffs look like this:

TB/MTL
BOS/TOR

WSH/PIT

NYI/CAR

NSH/DAL

WPG/STL

CGY/MIN
SJ/LV

No complaints from me.

HomeInMyShoes · #**1569** Posted **Mar 8, 2019, 1:36 PM**

Go Edmonton! Way to make that charge when it's pointless, but make management think they are doing something right.

ExcaliburKid · #**1570** Posted **Mar 8, 2019, 4:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes

Go Edmonton! Way to make that charge when it's pointless, but make management think they are doing something right.

Oh come on, it was bringing back Sam Gagner when the team turned it back around!
And they finally put Kassian on the top line RW, because obviously!

To paraphrase Lloyd Christmas "so...you're telling me there's a chance!"

DoubleK · #**1571** Posted **Mar 8, 2019, 4:24 PM**

Calgary fans are just silly. Team gets shut out and somehow it's the goalies fault?!

WhipperSnapper · #**1572** Posted **Mar 8, 2019, 5:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by franktko

Good article in La Presse (in French) about the current format of the playoff (how it sucks).

In the coming playoff, it's almost sure Toronto will face Boston: none of these two teams should pass TB at the top and the Canadiens are no threat behind.

This mean either the #2 or #4 team in the league will be out after the first round!

And then, the winner will likely face TB...

But if the Canadiens can finish as the 1st wildcard team, then they would play their first rounds in the Metropolitain division. Likely facing Washington in the first round. A much easier (but not easy of course, especially for the Canadiens) route than in the Atlantic division...

"Not fair for Bruins and Leafs"
https://www.lapresse.ca/sports/mathi...-les-leafs.php

Isn't this the traditional playoff formula until Bettman introduced seeding following his stint in the NBA?

franktko · #**1573** Posted **Mar 8, 2019, 6:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Isn't this the traditional playoff formula until Bettman introduced seeding following his stint in the NBA?

From the article (Google translate)

Between 1981 and 1993, teams in the same division competed in the first rounds before the winner of each division was in the conference semifinal.

An Association classification-based formula was introduced from 1993-1994 and the first club in each association faced the eighth ranked team.

The current format was put in place in 2013. NHL number two, Bill Daly, acknowledged last year that it was not perfect.

"Some people think it can be unfair in some cases, but general managers like clashes between clubs in the same division," he said on Sirius XM in April. We will see if the unique situation of this spring (2017) will be repeated or not and if we will have to review the formula. "

Coldrsx · #**1574** Posted **Mar 9, 2019, 10:57 PM**

FAR too many blue and whites walking the streets today.

Nicko999 · #**1575** Posted **Mar 10, 2019, 6:25 AM**

With 2 more pts Nikita Kucherov has reached the 110 pts mark with 13 games left.

First player since Henrik Sedin in 2009-2010 (112 pts) to reach that mark.

Best player in the NHL, and he's not drafted in the first round either.

Coldrsx · #**1576** Posted **Mar 10, 2019, 8:29 AM**

So 125 ish... and very impressive.

HomeInMyShoes · #**1577** Posted **Mar 11, 2019, 2:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by franktko

From the article (Google translate)

Between 1981 and 1993, teams in the same division competed in the first rounds before the winner of each division was in the conference semifinal.

An Association classification-based formula was introduced from 1993-1994 and the first club in each association faced the eighth ranked team.

The current format was put in place in 2013. NHL number two, Bill Daly, acknowledged last year that it was not perfect.

"Some people think it can be unfair in some cases, but general managers like clashes between clubs in the same division," he said on Sirius XM in April. We will see if the unique situation of this spring (2017) will be repeated or not and if we will have to review the formula. "

I remember the days of the Snorris division. It was terrible. If they are going to do this crap, then I propose the first round is divisional and then reseed.

Top three teams plus one extra is the divisional round (figure out some manner and then just reseed after the first round into the real draw.) It is possible if there are three great teams in one division for it to be poor, but reseeding after the first round will ensure that if 1 and 2 are in the same division they won't be playing each other in the second round.

It's not rocket science.

I'd actually rather just seed the teams 1-16 throughout the entire league and go at it.

Tampa Bay / Dallas
Boston / Montreal
Calgary / St. Louis
San Jose / Columbus
Toronto / Vegas
Washington / Carolina
NY Islanders / Nashville
Winnipeg / Pittsburgh

That would be interesting and we're still seeing some "rivalry" games while making some new rivalries along the way. If you want to evenly weight the conferences you can pick the to-8 from each and then rank them by points into 1 to 16.

suburbanite · #**1578** Posted **Mar 11, 2019, 2:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes

Tampa Bay / Dallas
Boston / Montreal
Calgary / St. Louis
San Jose / Columbus
Toronto / Vegas
Washington / Carolina
NY Islanders / Nashville
Winnipeg / Pittsburgh

That would be interesting and we're still seeing some "rivalry" games while making some new rivalries along the way. If you want to evenly weight the conferences you can pick the to-8 from each and then rank them by points into 1 to 16.

No way in hell the league would create a format where East vs. West coast is possible in the first round. Would severely damage tv ratings.

HomeInMyShoes · #**1579** Posted **Mar 11, 2019, 2:27 PM**

I know they wouldn't do it, but it would be ideal for those of us that actually care about the hockey itself.

But, but, but what do they do with the Stanley Cup? Is that the sole reason why no one watches it? I think there are other factors there.

Number of timezone differences in those series:
1
0
1
3
3
0
1
1

There's only two series with significant time zone issues. And here's the rub, almost no one in the East stays up to watch the West anyway so where exactly is the ratings hit for TV in this scenario? This might get two markets in the East paying attention to earlier rounds in Western time zones.

Berklon · #**1580** Posted **Mar 11, 2019, 6:36 PM**

The NHL can't be too pleased that all these big market and/or hockey market teams are most likely not making the playoffs:

Philly
Buffalo
New York Rangers
Detroit
Chicago
Los Angeles

With the threat of Montreal and Minnesota missing it as well.