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Mr Downtown · #**36221** Posted **Feb 2, 2017, 9:39 PM**

When did I ever defend the design of those flats on Wells St.? I tried to persuade the developer to use a more traditional parti but he never responded.

ithakas · #**36222** Posted **Feb 2, 2017, 10:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by Mr Downtown

When did I ever defend the design of those flats on Wells St.? I tried to persuade the developer to use a more traditional parti but he never responded.

Receipts:

LouisVanDerWright · #**36223** Posted **Feb 2, 2017, 10:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by ithakas

You're really going in on this design for someone who recently defended this:

You got something against street level activation?

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Originally Posted by Mr Downtown

The upside-down dividers/columns that get wider as they go up seem especially disrepectful to a work of honest structure like Willis.

And wouldn't a traditional 42-inch masonry-clad wall, strengthened within, be a much better way to shield against vehicles than installing a bollard in the public way every 30 inches around the entire block? Once the baseboard heating and conduit raceways and trash cans and cup storage cubbys go in those retail spaces, there's not going to be any point in having the plate glass pretend to meet the sidewalk.

Honestly? You are complaining about being "disrespectful of an honest structure like Willis" and then suggesting that a 42 in masonry wall should be used? Nothing cries "structural expression" like 42" happy utility brick bases! No wonder he likes the fortress on Wells and not the new Willis base.

Perhaps this is more what Mr. D is thinking?

danielschell · #**36224** Posted **Feb 2, 2017, 10:55 PM**

Let's lighten the mood with some photos of pretty colors!

1001 West Chicago Goes Green http://wp.me/p7uLxw-28A

Rizzo · #**36225** Posted **Feb 3, 2017, 12:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by Mr Downtown

The upside-down dividers/columns that get wider as they go up seem especially disrepectful to a work of honest structure like Willis.

And wouldn't a traditional 42-inch masonry-clad wall, strengthened within, be a much better way to shield against vehicles than installing a bollard in the public way every 30 inches around the entire block? Once the baseboard heating and conduit raceways and trash cans and cup storage cubbys go in those retail spaces, there's not going to be any point in having the plate glass pretend to meet the sidewalk.

Bollards along sidewalks are the future of city streets, whether people like them or not. Not a valid criticism of the architectural design

HomrQT · #**36226** Posted **Feb 3, 2017, 4:23 AM**

I like the new base will add some height right at the sidewalk and will have a black metal that goes with the Sears tower better than the pink stone that surrounds the base right now. But that rendering looks like a mix of all kinds of different designs slapped together. Would have been better with something more uniform and elegant.

marothisu · #**36227** Posted **Feb 3, 2017, 5:41 AM**

Langham Hotel was named the #1 Luxury Hotel in the US by US News for 2017.

http://travel.usnews.com/Hotels/USA/

1. Langham
14. The Penninsula
18. Four Seasons
20. Waldorf Astoria
26. Trump International
136. Park Hyatt
138. Ritz-Carlton
219. The Thompson

etc

denizen467 · #**36228** Posted **Feb 3, 2017, 11:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by Mr Downtown

Then I'm glad they further refined the initial design:

I felt similarly when I saw it. SOM's original addition to the Sears Tower, the barrel ceilinged entry pavilion, was much more harmonious. But I'm ok with this if it activates this otherwise very sterile area.

But what software is used to combine jagged-edged images (or to trim them into having jagged edges) ?

emathias · #**36229** Posted **Feb 3, 2017, 12:27 PM**

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Also, I find it interesting that he talks about disrespect of the Sears tower's design, and then calls it "Willis Tower". What kind of Chicagoan are you? (I kid I kid.... only sorta)

Considering Sears abandoned the tower and abandoned Chicago, I have no qualms about calling it Willis Tower. No need to give free advertising to a company that ultimately ran away from the city.

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Originally Posted by denizen467

I felt similarly when I saw it. SOM's original addition to the Sears Tower, the barrel ceilinged entry pavilion, was much more harmonious. But I'm ok with this if it activates this otherwise very sterile area.

But what software is used to combine jagged-edged images (or to trim them into having jagged edges) ?

Photoshop and Gimp can both do that.

LouisVanDerWright · #**36230** Posted **Feb 3, 2017, 2:32 PM**

Another FYI, the next phase of that "Wicker Park Connection" project is underway. Revcon is on site drilling away. Division and Ashland is sure becoming quite the little node. The church facadectomy on Ashland is also moving full steam ahead.

danielschell · #**36231** Posted **Feb 3, 2017, 2:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright

Another FYI, the next phase of that "Wicker Park Connection" project is underway. Revcon is on site drilling away. Division and Ashland is sure becoming quite the little node. The church facadectomy on Ashland is also moving full steam ahead.

Thanks for the heads-up. Activated the ol' triple zoom to see a caisson rig, lower left.

Chi-Sky21 · #**36232** Posted **Feb 3, 2017, 2:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by emathias

Considering Sears abandoned the tower and abandoned Chicago, I have no qualms about calling it Willis Tower. No need to give free advertising to a company that ultimately ran away from the city.

Photoshop and Gimp can both do that.

Just because the current owners decided to prostitute the name of the greatest skyscraper in north america for money does not mean i need to call it that. Just like i would never call the Hancock anything else either.

Kumdogmillionaire · #**36233** Posted **Feb 3, 2017, 4:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chi-Sky21

Just because the current owners decided to prostitute the name of the greatest skyscraper in north america for money does not mean i need to call it that. Just like i would never call the Hancock anything else either.

Exactly where I'm coming from, but I guess it's old fashioned to put some respek on a building's name.

Mr Downtown · #**36234** Posted **Feb 3, 2017, 4:43 PM**

^Is there a list somewhere of objects whose names cannot be changed, even by their owners? Do you usually enter Sears Tower through the Market Street entrance, or walk over from the Ravenswood Line?

It seems like an odd attitude to take on a forum that otherwise exhibits an Asperger's-level obsession over changes to marketing names—or a six-inch change in height figure—for new buildings.

SamInTheLoop · #**36235** Posted **Feb 3, 2017, 4:47 PM**

Someone posted recently renderings of the redesign of this Buck/Lend Lease West Loop proposal, architecture by GREC (for some reason, can't find that original post now).....I think it looks fantastic.....would be very happy if this is what's approved and built.....

danielschell · #**36236** Posted **Feb 3, 2017, 5:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by SamInTheLoop

Someone posted recently renderings of the redesign of this Buck/Lend Lease West Loop proposal, architecture by GREC (for some reason, can't find that original post now).....I think it looks fantastic.....would be very happy if this is what's approved and built.....

DNAInfo has a couple renderings https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2017...t-john-buck-co

woodrow · #**36237** Posted **Feb 3, 2017, 6:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Mr Downtown

^Is there a list somewhere of objects whose names cannot be changed, even by their owners? Do you usually enter Sears Tower through the Market Street entrance, or walk over from the Ravenswood Line?

It seems like an odd attitude to take on a forum that otherwise exhibits an Asperger's-level obsession over changes to marketing names—or a six-inch change in height figure—for new buildings.

Wrigley Field.....and.....um....that's all i can think of.

Rocket49 · #**36238** Posted **Feb 3, 2017, 6:17 PM**

Per Wikipedia, Willis Group Holdings obtained the naming rights to the tower in 2009, and the naming rights are valid for 15 years. So in 2024 it's possible the tower's name will change again. If no one buys the naming rights, perhaps the tower's owners will decide to call it the Sears Tower.

The Lurker · #**36239** Posted **Feb 3, 2017, 6:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright

Another FYI, the next phase of that "Wicker Park Connection" project is underway. Revcon is on site drilling away. Division and Ashland is sure becoming quite the little node. The church facadectomy on Ashland is also moving full steam ahead.

This discussion should be moved to the highrise thread as this will be the 15 story phase of the project:

https://www.google.com/amp/chicago.c...r-construction

danielschell · #**36240** Posted **Feb 3, 2017, 6:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by The Lurker

This discussion should be moved to the highrise thread as this will be the 15 story phase of the project:

https://www.google.com/amp/chicago.c...r-construction

We keep mentioning "phase" but this is a new development, not a phase of Centrum Wicker Park next door. Same developer and architect (Centrum/Hirsch) but separate projects. Sorry to be that guy; I'll take the rest of the day off.