Trans Canada Highway Twinning: Segments U/C - Page 108

ssiguy · #**2141** Posted **Jul 16, 2020, 7:48 PM**

What I hate about modern maps is that they don't indicate what type of road they are. Back in the day, a main road was shown in red, a 4 lane was showed in twin yellow stripes, and a freeway with 3 blue strips and the interchanges.

Now you see a road and it's just classified as a regular road or a freeway and nothing in between. Your trip could be on a 4 lane road or just a regular 2 lane one and you won't know til you get there.

esquire · #**2142** Posted **Jul 16, 2020, 8:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by ssiguy

What I hate about modern maps is that they don't indicate what type of road they are. Back in the day, a main road was shown in red, a 4 lane was showed in twin yellow stripes, and a freeway with 3 blue strips and the interchanges.

Now you see a road and it's just classified as a regular road or a freeway and nothing in between. Your trip could be on a 4 lane road or just a regular 2 lane one and you won't know til you get there.

Totally agree. When that was the case on Google Maps when that service was first unveiled in 2005, I figured they'd eventually refine it and include that information. To my surprise, they never did. If you zoom in far enough you can see if a highway is divided but that's about the extent of it... Google Maps still doesn't denote freeways/expressways. Not sure about Bing Maps because honestly, who uses Bing?

Corndogger · #**2143** Posted **Jul 17, 2020, 12:05 AM**

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Totally agree. When that was the case on Google Maps when that service was first unveiled in 2005, I figured they'd eventually refine it and include that information. To my surprise, they never did. If you zoom in far enough you can see if a highway is divided but that's about the extent of it... Google Maps still doesn't denote freeways/expressways. Not sure about Bing Maps because honestly, who uses Bing?

Lots of people use Bing.

JHikka · #**2144** Posted **Jul 17, 2020, 12:53 AM**

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Now you see a road and it's just classified as a regular road or a freeway and nothing in between. Your trip could be on a 4 lane road or just a regular 2 lane one and you won't know til you get there.

That's why StreetView and Satellite imagery exists. It's also why Google Maps has search parameters for if you want to drive on freeways or not, or to avoid dirt/unpaved roads.

SkeggsEggs · #**2145** Posted **Jul 17, 2020, 1:31 PM**

The Waze app denotes differences. Freeways are purple, highways and arterial roads are blue, major collectors green, local collectors yellow, residential.

esquire · #**2146** Posted **Jul 17, 2020, 1:35 PM**

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Lots of people use Bing.

Really? I feel sorry for them

esquire · #**2147** Posted **Jul 17, 2020, 1:40 PM**

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That's why StreetView and Satellite imagery exists. It's also why Google Maps has search parameters for if you want to drive on freeways or not, or to avoid dirt/unpaved roads.

Those are workarounds, though... something like this does a really good job of conveying at a glance the different types of roads you can drive on with more clarity than Google Maps (and I say this as someone who generally likes Google Maps):

I'm surprised that Google hasn't moved to something a little closer to this... maybe there are IP issues involved?

drew · #**2148** Posted **Jul 17, 2020, 2:21 PM**

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Lots of people use Bing.

Sure - but only until they realize they forgot to un-check a random box in some app download where you agreed to make Bing your default homepage and/or web search.

esquire · #**2149** Posted **Jul 17, 2020, 3:20 PM**

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Sure - but only until they realize they forgot to un-check a random box in some app download where you agreed to make Bing your default homepage and/or web search.

The same principle applies to Bing

q12 · #**2150** Posted **Jul 17, 2020, 4:55 PM**

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News release
Province, Dexter Nova Alliance Break Ground on Highway 104 Twinning Project
Transportation and Infrastructure Renewal
July 17, 2020 - 1:43 PM

Construction has begun for the twinning of the Highway 104 between Sutherlands River, Pictou Co. and Antigonish.

Crews and machinery broke ground today, July 17. The $718 million project will make the highway safer for motorists and improve the efficiency of one the province’s most important transportation corridors.

“This project will save lives and provide travellers and business with a high-quality highway for many years to come,” said Lloyd Hines, Minister of Transportation and Infrastructure Renewal. “A safe and efficient highway system is essential to the economic and social well-being of Nova Scotia. Our partnership with Dexter Nova Alliance will deliver on that goal.”

Dexter Nova Alliance, led by local contractors Dexter Construction and Nova Construction, with BBGI as an equity partner, was awarded the contract to design, build, finance, operate and maintain a section of Highway 104 in May.

Construction will be completed before the end of 2023.

The Highway 104 project, part of the Trans-Canada Highway, consists of construction of a twinned highway beginning east of New Glasgow near Exit 27 at Sutherlands River, and running east to just west of Exit 31.

The project includes 28 kilometres of new two-lane twinned highway and 10 kilometres of new four-lane twinned highway. There are two new interchanges and about 24 new bridges. Dexter Nova Alliance will also upgrade the existing section of highway.

The federal government is contributing $90 million to the project under the National Trade Corridors Fund.

https://novascotia.ca/news/release/?id=20200717005

https://novascotia.ca/tran/highways/...4-twinning.asp

Dengler Avenue · #**2151** Posted **Jul 17, 2020, 4:58 PM**

Thanks for sharing! I look forward to driving on a contiguous four-lane freeway from Saint-Antonin, QC to Antigonish, N.S. in 2025.

Corndogger · #**2152** Posted **Jul 17, 2020, 8:49 PM**

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Really? I feel sorry for them

Why? Have you actually used it?

Corndogger · #**2153** Posted **Jul 17, 2020, 8:50 PM**

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Sure - but only until they realize they forgot to un-check a random box in some app download where you agreed to make Bing your default homepage and/or web search.

Looks like we have another person stuck 10 years in the past when it comes to technology.

Corndogger · #**2154** Posted **Jul 17, 2020, 8:54 PM**

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Thanks for sharing! I look forward to driving on a contiguous four-lane freeway from Saint-Antonin, QC to Antigonish, N.S. in 2025.

Nova Scotia's plowing ahead with a major $718 million highway project while MB is downgrading from an interchange to what will likely be a $15 million roundabout at best. If NS can come up with the money why can't much larger MB?

MonctonRad · #**2155** Posted **Jul 17, 2020, 10:20 PM**

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Nova Scotia's plowing ahead with a major $718 million highway project while MB is downgrading from an interchange to what will likely be a $15 million roundabout at best. If NS can come up with the money why can't much larger MB?

The Maritimes has bought hook line and sinker into the entire concept of a full regional freeway system. It helps that the feds are providing significant funding, but I imagine that the same funding might be available to the western provinces too.

Our populations may be small, but our population density is higher than in most parts of Canada, and our population is relatively distributed rather than centralized in a single regional city. As such intercity highway traffic tends to be fairly heavy, especially in southern NB and central NS, making justification regarding highway construction easy.

We also expect freeways, since we are right next to southern QC, southern ON and the urban northeast of the USA. If they have freeways, then we want freeways too. We want to be plugged into the North American freeway system. This is considered progress, and Maritime taxpayers are willing to pay for progress.

Andy6 · #**2156** Posted **Jul 17, 2020, 10:38 PM**

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The Maritimes has bought hook line and sinker into the entire concept of a full regional freeway system. It helps that the feds are providing significant funding, but I imagine that the same funding might be available to the western provinces too.

Our populations may be small, but our population density is higher than in most parts of Canada, and our population is relatively distributed rather than centralized in a single regional city. As such intercity highway traffic tends to be fairly heavy, especially in southern NB and central NS, making justification regarding highway construction easy.

We also expect freeways, since we are right next to southern QC, southern ON and the urban northeast of the USA. If they have freeways, then we want freeways too. We want to be plugged into the North American freeway system. This is considered progress, and Maritime taxpayers are willing to pay for progress.

Maybe, from a federal point of view, it’s just a superior investment. Seats are cheap in the Maritimes, with 25 MPs for about 1.9 million people (vs. 14 for 1.4 million in Manitoba). Add to that the fact that the small geographical area of the Maritimes means that any particular highway improvement will be noticed by, and influential with, voters in multiple small ridings.

esquire · #**2157** Posted **Jul 18, 2020, 1:12 AM**

^ It's not as though the province is raring to go with these projects in Manitoba and the feds are somehow the reluctant party dragging their feet. The province has demonstrated little apparent interest in pursuing these types of projects.

For instance, Pallister will not miss an opportunity to slam the feds for sending CERB dollars to Manitoba (

), but when was the last time he called out Ottawa for inadequate highway infrastructure funding, or made the case for a major cost-shared highway project? I really don't ever remember him doing that. Is it because the feds aren't unwilling to send money here, or is it because it's simply not that much of a priority for the provincial government?

jmt18325 · #**2158** Posted **Jul 18, 2020, 1:55 AM**

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^ It's not as though the province is raring to go with these projects in Manitoba and the feds are somehow the reluctant party dragging their feet. The province has demonstrated little apparent interest in pursuing these types of projects.

For instance, Pallister will not miss an opportunity to slam the feds for sending CERB dollars to Manitoba (

), but when was the last time he called out Ottawa for inadequate highway infrastructure funding, or made the case for a major cost-shared highway project? I really don't ever remember him doing that. Is it because the feds aren't unwilling to send money here, or is it because it's simply not that much of a priority for the provincial government?

Didn't he basically have to be shamed into taking federal highway dollars before they expired last year?

Dengler Avenue · #**2159** Posted **Jul 18, 2020, 2:01 AM**

Ah, perfect! If Ontario works on twinning from the provincial boundary toward Kenora quickly enough, it will shame Pallister into ordering the twinning from Falcon Lake to Whiteshell.

Corndogger · #**2160** Posted **Jul 18, 2020, 2:30 AM**

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^ It's not as though the province is raring to go with these projects in Manitoba and the feds are somehow the reluctant party dragging their feet. The province has demonstrated little apparent interest in pursuing these types of projects.

For instance, Pallister will not miss an opportunity to slam the feds for sending CERB dollars to Manitoba (

), but when was the last time he called out Ottawa for inadequate highway infrastructure funding, or made the case for a major cost-shared highway project? I really don't ever remember him doing that. Is it because the feds aren't unwilling to send money here, or is it because it's simply not that much of a priority for the provincial government?

Why would he slam the feds for helping Manitobans? Did he buy into the CFIB bullshit that no one wants to go back to work because they're living a life of luxury off of $2K/month?

There's federal money for everyone. Put together a decent plan and if it makes sense you'll likely get some funding. If AB can get funding for some transportation projects then surely MB can.