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Lotsa talk about fare evasion, modifying slam (handicap exit) gates and new turnstiles:

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East 180th Street Station








The Front Entrance to the East 180th Street Station built by the New York, Westchester and Boston Railway in 1912 and converted to NYC Subway in 1941.








A mosaic tile mural by artist Luisa Caldwell at the East 180th Street Station


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That East 180th looks like it could have been relocated from Palm Beach or Santa Barbara! Beautiful.
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Most of the old NYW&B stations were handsome and employed Mission or Italian Renaissance architecture.
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oh good it looks like they repainted it again with better paint.

when it was restored the paintwork peeled off immediately and thats the way it sat for years afterward.
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On TAPP: PATH contactless payment system now at all its train stops

By Ben Brachfeld
Posted on May 22, 2024




TAPP, which stands for “Total Access PATH Payment,” can now be used to pay the fare at all 13 of the bi-state transit system’s stops, on about a third of the total turnstiles in the system. The last two stations to be deployed with TAPP were Christopher Street and 9th Street, which got the treatment this week.



The Port Authority opted to spend $100 million developing its own system instead of using OMNY, owing to timing uncertainties on OMNY expansion. On Monday, the MTA in some sense vindicated that approach, announcing the overall OMNY project was not due for completion until at least 2026 as the agency attempts to spur New Yorkers to switch to contactless payment.



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https://www.amny.com/transit/tapp-co...ath-all-stops/


A TAPP reader at the Oculus. Photo by Ben Brachfeld
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MTA will test middle-out turnstiles at 15 subway stops this year

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Posted on May 22, 2024


https://www.amny.com/transit/mta-tes...stiles-subway/


The MTA is set to deploy middle-out turnstiles at more subway stations this year. Ray Raimundi / MTA
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^They're spending money on everything except installing platform gates, which people have actually been requesting.
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^They're spending money on everything except installing platform gates, which people have actually been requesting.
The trains have to stop at an exact point though. Is that possible with the current system?
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The trains have to stop at an exact point though. Is that possible with the current system?
Not only that but it generally requires a high degree of rolling stock standardization so that all the doors are in the exact same spot.
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The trains have to stop at an exact point though. Is that possible with the current system?
The MTA has claimed that the issue is complicated because door configuration varies by train models, but plenty of systems in other countries use gates that don't need to align to door openings.

All trains on particular do stop at fixed points in each station, btw. They always need to align the conductor cab, in the middle of the train, to a specific middle point on the platform whenever they stop in a station.
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mta keeps trying to prevent fare evasion on the subway —


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I feel like this is half the battle. At my train station there is a line of people who wait at the side exits for people to leave so they can sneak in. Young and old alike.
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Janno Lieber gets pretty pissed off about it during the last board meeting. It's worth a watch.
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mta keeps trying to prevent fare evasion on the subway —
Such a coincidence how this fare evasion problem has coincided with the phase out of the unlimited ride MetroCard.
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Such a coincidence how this fare evasion problem has coincided with the phase out of the unlimited ride MetroCard.
What phase out? The 30 day still exists
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I feel like this is half the battle. At my train station there is a line of people who wait at the side exits for people to leave so they can sneak in. Young and old alike.



meanwhile, i dk about elsewhere so much recently, but all the busses on staten island are free …
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What phase out? The 30 day still exists
Unlimited rides are being phased out in favor of the OMNY, and many paying passengers have already moved away from Unlimiteds.

Here's my theory of what's going on. Unlimited cards were a sunk cost. People with unlimited cards were generous in helping others evade the fare by swiping them into the subway system as they exited. If you rode the subway anytime prior to 2020, you saw people at turnstiles asking for swipes on a daily basis.

But with the fare structure change under OMNY, there are fewer unlimited cards floating around and people are far less willing to pay an extra fare for others (I can count on one hand how many times I've been asked to do that in the past two years). This was true even before the introduction of OMNY, as people with cash MetroCards were not likely to give away swipes, but people with unlimited MetroCards were often willing to give them away. The MTA couldn't complain about fare evaders borrowing swipes before, because who is the MTA to tell me that I can't donate swipes to other people? So they just got rid of it and converted many of those swipe borrowers into "fare evaders".
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