[Moncton] East (Harrisville, Lewisville, Tankville, Irishtown) Developments

[josh_cat_eyes]

Ultimately does the city not have final say? If they really wanted to build the roundabout on Shediac Road, do they not have the power to expropriate the land from them? I also find it interesting that the lands outlined in red were purchased by Cavendish Farms and not by Robert Irving himself.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by josh_cat_eyes

Ultimately does the city not have final say? If they really wanted to build the roundabout on Shediac Road, do they not have the power to expropriate the land from them?

They would have the power yes, but it would take considerable balls to try and expropriate land from one of the richest families on the planet, and from a man who is the head of a company employing literally thousands of people in the community.

I am certain the city would be much more interested in seeking an accommodation through negotiation rather than dropping a nuclear device into the middle of the situation. Irving also has immense resources in order to fight the expropriation within the court system as far as he wanted to go.

Expropriation would be immensely expensive in terms of legal costs and would piss off one of the greatest boosters and supporters of the Moncton business community there is. No thanks.

[josh_cat_eyes]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

They would have the power yes, but it would take considerable balls to try and expropriate land from one of the richest families on the planet, and from a man who is the head of a company employing literally thousands of people in the community.

I am certain the city would be much more interested in seeking an accommodation through negotiation rather than dropping a nuclear device into the middle of the situation. Irving also has immense resources in order to fight the expropriation within the court system as far as he wanted to go.

Expropriation would be immensely expensive in terms of legal costs and would piss off one of the greatest boosters and supporters of the Moncton business community there is. No thanks.

My point was essentially if Irving can play hardball than the city can play it with them. They likely wouldn’t ever resort to expropriation, but it is a card on the bottom of the deck if they feel the need to use it. Like you said, they would be much better off trying to negotiate with them.

[Feneant]

Notice a digging company was doing some work on the site of the old Metro station in Irishtown across from the church, I wonder if they aren't remediating the site? There's definitely enough people living in Irishtown for there to be another gas station going up but I'd expect it to be closer to Irishview/Saffron

[MonctonRad]

Caledonia Industrial Park Update:

1) - There is a new building under construction at the Truck Stop Plus, perhaps the previously reported truck wash, although the shape of the building doesn't seem right (unless it is a multi-bay facility).


my photo

2) - There is a large lot on Frenette Ave, directly across the street from the new Day & Ross site which has been cleared and is being prepared for construction.


Retail Talk & Share photo

3) - The Kelcold refrigerated storage facility (also on Frenette, but close to the Kent Distribution Centre) is undergoing a major expansion. Footings are currently going into the ground.

[MonctonRad]

Structural steel is now going up for the new k-8 francophone school off of McLaughlin & Leopold-Belliveau.

[MonctonRad]

There has been earth moving going on for the last several weeks in the Metepenagiag First Nations land on the SE corner of the Harrisville/TCH interchange.

Within the last day, there has been a lot of furious speculation on line in several Facebook groups (Ask Moncton, Retail Talk & Share and NB Newschasers) that the reserve is preparing the land for the construction of a new casino or gaming centre, presumably the first phase of a development that would end up something like Grey Rocks in Edmundston.

There is no confirmation on this although one person apparently asked a construction worker on site what was going on and this is what he was told. Does anyone on here have any confirmatory evidence that this is indeed the case???

[MonctonRad]

Still heated online debate as to what is going on at the reserve lands at Harrisville/TCH. It may be nothing more than basic installation of services prior to generic development. We will have to keep an eye on this one.

[tw31]

The lands are being prepped for development. Sewer, roads etc.

Metepenagiag is not developing any of the parcels of land. We are simply being the landlords, collecting lease and taxes from tenants in the form of a commercial subdivision. They are supposed to be ready for development in the spring.

There are no confirmed tenants that were made public to the community, just yet.

The building being constructed at the truck stop across the highway will be a truck washing bay.

I’m member of the community, hope that serves as confirmation and squashes the rumours.

No, there is no casino being built lmao.

[MonctonRad]

Thanks for the insight!

[MonctonRad]

This was posted on Retail Talk & Share (I presume by you tw31).



Interesting realignment for the eastbound onramp onto the TCH from Harrisville. This interchange is private (owned by MID). I presume that you guys have been negotiating with them, and with the Department of Highways to allow this proposal to go forward. I wonder if the acceleration lane onto the highway will have to be lengthened to compensate for the shortened onramp.

[tw31]

Haha good guess!

I presume that as well. We aren’t notified of any back end discussions, but as far as public knowledge goes that would be correct for the off-ramp. As far as I’m concerned they are proceeding with that set up.

It will be interesting to see how they “roll-out”

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

This was posted on Retail Talk & Share (I presume by you tw31).



Interesting realignment for the eastbound onramp onto the TCH from Harrisville. This interchange is private (owned by MID). I presume that you guys have been negotiating with them, and with the Department of Highways to allow this proposal to go forward. I wonder if the acceleration lane onto the highway will have to be lengthened to compensate for the shortened onramp.

[MonctonRad]

The mystery lot on Frenette across from the new Day & Ross facility is a mystery no more!

A sign has appeared..............



They have an existing location on Urquhart Ave in the Caledonia Industrial Park, so this would appear to be an expansion and a relocation for this business.

Thermo King is the world leader in transport temperature control systems for trucks, trailers, buses and rail cars. Thermo King also manufactures auxiliary power units, which dramatically reduce engine idling. As part of Thermo King’s unmatched nationwide dealer network, we provide expert factory-trained service when and where you need it, and a complete line of genuine and competitive parts.

[MonctonRad]

Rice Contracting has posted an interesting drone shot of the new Kubota dealership going up on Price street in the Moncton East Business Park.

[MonctonRad]

There has been a lot of (selective) tree cutting going on recently in that triangular bit of land on the SW corner to the Highway 15/2 interchange. I noticed this myself a few weeks ago, but recently (today) there is now some chatter being generated about this over at Retail Talk & Share.

Apparently, according to some people, the land now belongs to MID and may be being prepared for development. The SNB site however is currently unavailable, therefore I can not confirm a recent sale of this land.

Nevertheless, This parcel of land would offer extremely high visibility from two major divided highways, has railway access, and is across the street from the Romeo LeBlanc International Airport. It would be a no brainer to see this as a prime site for commercial development. We will have to keep an eye on this one.

A couple of years ago, I did a fanciful diagram of a commercial subdivision here, which I posted on SSP. I will repost it below.



The green line is the existing rail spur. My diagram includes a new interchange at the exit to the airport, which would eliminate the at grade railway crossing over highway 15. This is all conjecture, but the diagram shows the possibilities that could exist for this land.

[MonctonRad]

SNB is now back on line. There are no records of any recent sale of this land. It is possible however that the SNB database has not been recently updated. The selective tree cutting going on is certainly of interest, and I have heard there is a "sold" sign posted on the land

[NBNYer]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

SNB is now back on line. There are no records of any recent sale of this land. It is possible however that the SNB database has not been recently updated. The selective tree cutting going on is certainly of interest, and I have heard there is a "sold" sign posted on the land

I was just about to mention that there is indeed a “sold” sign on that lot along westbound route 15 for a coupe weeks now. I do wonder what the plans are as the area being cleared seems quite large and not easily accessible with the current road network. Maybe the city is planning extending Babineau boulevard along the highway?

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by NBNYer

I was just about to mention that there is indeed a “sold” sign on that lot along westbound route 15 for a coupe weeks now. I do wonder what the plans are as the area being cleared seems quite large and not easily accessible with the current road network. Maybe the city is planning extending Babineau boulevard along the highway?

I did a little tour up Babineau, and it does not appear that the tree clearing equipment has been using this street to get on site. I think the equipment has been accessing the site from the old Keddy's Hotel property.

I had a brief look at the "sold" sign. It appears the lot in question does not include the apex of the triangular shaped parcel of land right at the 15/2 interchange. It is a little further to the west, more or less directly opposite the BMW/Mini and Mazda dealerships.

[MonctonRad]

To be clear, this is the parcel of land with the sold sign on it. The image is from the SNB website, but there is still no information on the site regarding any recent sale (despite the sign, and the recent tree clearing activity).

[MonctonRad]

Rumours are getting a little more convincing that the tree clearing operation is for an MID expansion.