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BTW, here are two pictures of the progress of the West Ocean condo towers as of yesterday (April 7th):


Nothing better than to see former parking lots converted from wasteland into something worthwhile. Will be great also watching the various sites near Broadway and the 710 fwy, across from the WTC, cleaned up & redeveloped.
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BTW, here are two pictures of the progress of the West Ocean condo towers as of yesterday (April 7th):


Nothing better than to see former parking lots converted from wasteland into something worthwhile. Will be great also watching the various sites near Broadway and the 710 fwy, across from the WTC, cleaned up & redeveloped.
No doubt! BTW, April 7th Pics were taken by Daveofcali... I took the updated pictures on July 30th which shows more progress tha dave's photos. You can see that they have completed the underground parking structure and are starting at the first floor of the tower. Only 28 more floors to go!
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I took the updated pictures on July 30th which shows more progress tha dave's photos.


haha on me. I used the wrong part of your previous post in my quoteline, since I definitely was referring to your newest pics of that condo proj across from city hall.
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so does anyone think that the The Inn at The Pike has been improved in the new rendering?
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^ That newer version is better. The older rendering for some reason made me think of a bldg along a fwy in the burbs, partly because of that large blank wall under the hotel's sign.

Here's another reason it's important to improve the hood. I saw this from an article published today in a London newspaper. The first part is good, the second part is :


Not that his work with the Philharmonia Baroque is full-time. He conducts, he says, seven programmes a year with his orchestra, each of which is played at least five times in the bay area of San Francisco. "Then occasionally we take one of the concerts down to the Disney Hall in Los Angeles, and that is just paradise."

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So what stops him doing more? The answer is simple: "Opera takes an awful lot of time. That's fine if you are doing a production, say, in London, where there are plenty of other things to do. But if you might well be stuck in Long Beach, California, that's less fine, and then you think you could be spending those weeks doing concerts with a symphony orchestra.
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^^ That is just ignorance... that doesn't bother me... once people come down to downtown LB and see all the development that has happend and is happening, they quickly change their mind!
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RDA Opens Selection Process To Public

By Steve Irsay
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While an independent review of the Long Beach Redevelopment Agency was short on specific recommendations, it did suggest that the agency improve communications, both among stakeholders and with the public.

It appears that point, delivered in late May, already is being taken.

On Monday, nine developers will present their proposals for three downtown revitalization projects at a public meeting from 8:30 to 11:30 a.m. in the City Council chambers (333 W. Ocean Blvd.). A 10th developer will make a separate presentation on Aug. 22.

While no formal action will be taken at the meeting, it marks an unusually early invitation to the public into the redevelopment selection process, said Amy Bodek, the city project development bureau manager.

“We don’t normally do this,” she said of the public unveiling. “But because these properties are so critical to the future development of the downtown, we wanted to give the public, the media and other developers an opportunity to understand what the proposals are about.”

The plans came in response to a request for proposal sent out jointly by the city and the RDA — the independent, appointed body that oversees redevelopment — in early May.

The three project sites are clustered around the intersection of Long Beach Boulevard and Broadway, and are considered key pieces of the changing downtown landscape.

One site includes the former Southern California Edison building — referred to as “City Hall East” — a city-owned 10-story building at 100 Long Beach Blvd. that was temporarily occupied by the police department until April. Sale of the building could generate significant revenue for the city, Bodek said.

The second site, located on Broadway between Elm Avenue and Long Beach Boulevard, is for the proposed Art Exchange, an enclave of artist studios, galleries and classrooms. The mixed-use project figures to be a centerpiece of the nearby East Village Arts District.

The third site consists of two parking lots and the vacant American Hotel building on Broadway between Long Beach Boulevard and the Promenade, a nearby portion of which will give rise to a new mixed-use retail and residential development in the next year.

“We are asking the developers to put their best foot forward and to talk about their qualifications and to talk about their specific proposals and their vision for the area,” Bodek said.

With respect to the Edison building site, those visions all involve residential space, Bodek said. About half the developers who answered the RFP were interested in rehabilitating and converting the existing building, while the other half proposed demolishing it in favor of new construction, Bodek said.

Each development team will make a 15-minute presentation. If time allows, there may be an opportunity for public input, Bodek said.

After the meeting, a selection committee comprised of city staff and outside economic advisors will decide which development teams will be asked to refine their plans for follow-up interviews.

“That is when the real negotiations begin,” Bodek said. “I think it is going to be a very tough competition.”
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The former City Hall East building at 100 Long Beach Boulevard is one of a few structures at the intersection of Long Beach and First Street that may be changed. Developers are submitting proposals that include a possible art exchange, housing and retail combinations in the 4-acre site.

Developer proposals for L.B. site
Developers are revealing their proposals for the site at Long Beach Boulevard and First Street in a meeting from 8:30 to 11:30 a.m. today at City Hall. They are:

• 100 Long Beach Boulevard LLC
Convert the City Hall East building and construct 84 for-sale residential condo units and utilize existing on-site parking.

• The Lee Group Inc.
Convert City Hall East to 81 for-sale housing units, and build 233 for-sale and rental units with a portion of the ground floor to be the Art Exchange. Includes specialty retail of 48,000 square feet, an Art Exchange area of 29,000 square feet.

• Lennar Communities
692 high-rise units, 488 podium homes, six townhomes, ground-floor retail, commercial and market/grocery store, and a 17,000-square-foot Art Exchange.

• Toll Brothers
200 podium units and 1,005 high-rise for-sale units.

• Griffin Realty Inc.
Convert City Hall East and develop Long Beach Grand Prix Museum, with a first-floor restaurant and meeting area, and eight floors of for-sale lofts or boutique hotel. Proposes a parking structure with 1,200 spaces, 4-story building built on top of parking structure, building with 180 for-sale units.

• Urban Pacific Builders LLC
Convert City Hall East and construct 72 loft/penthouse units and a potential art college, and build an additional 207 lofts/flats/townhomes including a 22,475-square-foot Art Exchange.

• Williams & Dame Development
360 for-sale units with lofts/condos, 27 live-work ground floor units, 24,200-square-foot indoor artist space and 25,000 square feet of public outdoor courtyard exhibition space with 14,600-square-foot ground floor retail/commercial.

• The Olson Company
499 condo units/artists lofts and a 22,500-square-foot Art Exchange.

• Urban Growth Long Beach LLC/The Related Companies
454 high-rise and for-sale lofts/condos, eight live-work lofts and ground floor office/retail.

• Centex Homes
96 contemporary high-rise, 73 lofts, 140 work-live-podium, 83 luxury brownstones, 80 high-rises, 472 total residential units with 30,000 square feet of retail.
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Designs on downtown

Developers to share proposals for Long Beach Blvd., First St. site today

By Don Jergler
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LONG BEACH — An East Village site that is scheduled for redevelopment has attracted the attention of at least 10 developers with ideas that range from a few hundred housing units to a high rise with more than 1,200 units.
Whether development of the site that encompasses City Hall East and other locations along Long Beach Boulevard between First and Third streets is good or bad depends on who you ask.

"This is a very huge opportunity for the city of Long Beach," said City Manager Gerald Miller. "I think it has tremendous potential."

Miller said he views the site's development as transformative and called it "economically beneficial as well."

But some people are concerned about what that transformation would do to an area that now has nearly half-dozen art galleries, several hybrid boutiques/art galleries and four independent coffee houses.

Little information has been released since city officials took control of the planning process. City officials have postponed answering questions until developers have had a chance today to discuss their projects.

Proposals call for developments with a few hundred housing units to one with more than 1,200 units, which sources familiar with the project say could rise to 42 stories.

"No one's been given anything. It's all very secretive, and it's one of the most significant development projects in all of downtown," said Se Reed, president of the East Village Arts District Association.

Developers that responded to the city and Redevelopment Agency's request for proposals to revitalize the site will present their plans at a public meeting today.

Each developer will make a 15-minute presentation from 8:30 a.m. to 11:30 a.m. in City Hall, 333 W. Ocean Blvd., in the council chambers.

The site had been planned as an Art Exchange with lofts, public art and an open-air quad. Many of the developer proposals include an art exchange as an element in their projects, according to those familiar with the developer submissions, which were due July 8.

The parcel includes the vacant Edison building, a large city-owned parking lot, a Bank of America branch and several businesses, a mix of land owned by private citizens, the city and the RDA.

Real estate prices have doubled in the last few years in the East Village Arts District, a segment of downtown bordered by Ocean Boulevard and Seventh Street and Long Beach Boulevard and Alamitos Avenue. The East Village is home to many independent businesses in historic buildings and developers have begun to set their sights on it.

Many in the East Village association, comprised of area business owners and managers, are concerned that the new businesses in the retail portion of any development will force out the independent operations that dominate the area.

Images of Pottery Barn, Barnes & Noble and Starbucks run through Reed's mind.

"We can't compete if they move in here," said Reed, co-owner of Open bookstore in the East Village.

Parking and rising rents are other concerns voiced by the association.

"The lack of parking is a major hindrance to doing business down here," Reed said. "The rents could jump $2 per square foot, and that would devastate the business climate."

Then there's the possibility of chain stores opening in the project, which "would make it a repeat of every shopping area from here to Santa Monica," Reed said. "Our concern is that the identity, the quality and the uniqueness of the East Village is going to get swallowed up."

Others say downtown's image is at stake, as large-scale projects threaten to overwhelm the buildings that give the area historic appeal.

"Generally speaking, we feel it is important to preserve the character of our neighborhoods and to consider the scale and quality of all design projects," said Kristen Autry, director of SaveLBCSkyline.org, a group that formed after failed efforts by another developer to erect the city's largest building on Ocean Boulevard and Alamitos.

"Long Beach should be asking, 'Do we want Ocean Boulevard to look like Wilshire Boulevard? Do we want Long Beach to be a canyon of high-rises?" There is a choice to be made here."

The group is also concerned about increased traffic.

"We ought to be looking at the overall traffic in all of the corridors for example, Long Beach Boulevard, Alamitos Avenue and Ocean Boulevard," she said.

The latest update to the Long Beach General Plan shows a volume of 4,999 vehicles at peak hours at the intersection of Ocean Boulevard and Alamitos Avenue.

However, Miller contends that the project could actually help relieve parking issues by creating more parking spaces. And since it's located next to a transit center, it is a move to bring housing closer to mass transit, Miller said.

"We are talking about property that is on the Blue Line," Miller said. "We are going to locate residents next to where mass transit points are."


Others see promise in a high-density project providing more housing and more vitality to the area.

"I'm excited about it because that project could bring a lot more housing to downtown," said Dick Gaylord, with the Re/Max Real Estate Specialists in Long Beach and incoming first vice president of the National Association of Realtors for 2006. "Bringing more housing to downtown makes the area alive, and the condo market is ripe for this."

The condos in the development may prove to be a more affordable alternative to the more expensive condos being sold on Ocean, Gaylord said.

"High-density for that area makes sense," he said. "There aren't many condos out there. The market is really tight at the moment."
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Wasnt there another 40+ story proposal recently that got shot down by a neighborhood group? i hope that this new one doestn get chopped down if it is indeed approved.
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Yeah, it was withdrawn by the developer who didn't want to deal with residents of the Villa Riviera tower. The residents were concerned that the new tower would block their views. They started this organization called Save the Long Beach Skyline... where they are trying to shoot down any new towers in downtown LB. They claim that they don't want downtown LB to turn into "Wilshire Boulevard"... they say that new residential towers will add a lot of traffic and polution. I hate them!

This new 43 story tower is proposed by "Toll Brothers". They are proposing 3 towers (43, 38 and 20+). Lennar is also proposing two towers in the 20+ to 30+ range). I think that Related Companies is also proposing something similar to Lennar. In all, they will build a couple of new towers at that corner but the height is in question as this location has an unlimited height restriction.
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Developers go to (down)town with plans

Proposals unveiled; could make area home to thousands.

By Don Jergler
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LONG BEACH — A $1 billion-plus, three-tower project with the tallest building soaring to 42 stories is among 10 proposals by developers fighting to build the next "jewel of the city."
The developers unveiled their plans during the Redevelopment Agency Board meeting on Monday, offering the first public glimpse of how a downtown area that most consider to have little aesthetic or economic appeal may be transformed.

It's home to a Metro Rail station, a few small businesses, a Bank of America branch, two parking lots and the now vacated temporary headquarters of the Long Beach Police Department, known as City Hall East at Long Beach Boulevard and Broadway.

Depending on the winner of a joint selection process involving the city and the RDA Board that could last through next March, it could be the site of one of several proposed high-rise projects, some small loft projects, or even a 3-story museum heralding the Grand Prix.

Under any of the development plans, it would be home to hundreds or even thousands of residents, according to the proposals heard on Monday.

RDA board members reacted enthusiastically to both the number and the scale of proposals submitted.

"The proposals presented to us today are nothing short of spectacular," said Thomas Fields, chairman of the RDA board. "This is going to be the jewel of the city."

The developer turnout shows that downtown revitalization efforts are taking hold, said RDA board member Jane Netherton, who is expected to step down after eight years of service when a replacement for her and outgoing board member John Gooding are selected by the City Council in coming weeks.

"Eight years ago you would have been begging people to make a presentation for downtown," she said.

At the heart of the site under most proposals would be an Art Exchange with displays of public art, art classes, galleries and an open air quad. For the past five years people in the East Village Arts District have sought an Art Exchange for the site.

In the last few years, a developer with some of the landowners as participants had emerged, and it appeared as if all was set to go off as an RDA project.

Then City Manager Jerry Miller stepped in. Recognizing that City Hall East was city-owned land and that bringing several of the nearby parcels together could generate interest from a number of high-powered developers, Miller decided to issue a joint request for proposals.

Whether Miller's action was good or bad for the city depends on who you ask. Some view it as chance to bring to the area a large project that will become an economic engine and generate business and foot traffic, others view it as a possible threat to the city's historic appeal and a means of generating more traffic in an already overcrowded area.

Those arguments took a back seat on Monday, and mostly positive comments followed the nearly four-hour cumulative presentation by nine of the 10 developers to the RDA board. The final developer presentation is set for 8:30 a.m. Monday at City Hall council chambers, 333 W. Ocean.

Of the proposals for the 4-acre, six-parcel site some proposals include all six parcels, some only one perhaps the most prolific is the Toll Brothers plan.

It calls for tearing down City Hall East and building three towers: 42 stories, 38 stories and 21 stories.

It would provide 1,200 units, a 40,000 square foot Art Exchange and a small hotel.

"This will be the city's dream realized, that's our promise," said Doug Otto, a former Long Beach Planning Commissioner and a Long Beach Community College trustee who is serving as a consultant on the project.

Lennar Communities is proposing buildings of 35-stories, 28-stories and 20-stories that are stepped down from south to north to minimize shadowing of other buildings and better blend in with the city's emerging skyline.

Called "The Boulevard," Lennar executives described it as a "vibrant urban master-planned neighborhood," connecting downtown to the East Village with parks and gardens, and 170,000 square feet of retail space.

Others developers promised to make the preservation of identity of the East Village and building the Arts Exchange a priority.

Downtown Long Beach-based Urban Pacific LLC, the group that had originally been solicited to develop the Arts Exchange when it was an RDA project, proposed an $80 million project with 251 lofts, a 22,000-square-foot Art Exchange, 18,000 square feet of retail space, and 605 parking spaces.

Aside from the 10-story City Hall East building, the project's tallest building planned is seven stories to compliment the buildings in the East Village.

"We believe the height is appropriate for this area," said Mark Tolley, the managing member of Urban Pacific, who noted they are using a 100 percent Long Beach-based development team.

The Grand Prix Palace gives the city's largest annual event, the Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach, "an ongoing presence in downtown," said Jim Michaelian, president and CEO of the Grand Prix who was at the meeting with Grand Prix founder Chris Pook to lend their support to the development.
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Great news. are these proposals for the same site or are they next to each other? also, any pics of the area they are talking about. i dont go to LB much so im not to familiar with the area.
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Great news. are these proposals for the same site or are they next to each other? also, any pics of the area they are talking about. i dont go to LB much so im not to familiar with the area.
All of the proposed towers are South of Broadway, since height zoning for south of Broadway is unlimited. North of Broadway, zoning is for approx 6 to 7 stories.

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beautiful, all those surface lots gone.
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Shoreline Gateway (Northwest Corner of Alamitos and Ocean)

· Mixed-use, urban infill development
· 310 residential for sale units
· 20,000 sq.ft. of retail / live-work / art gallery space









Shoreline Gateway focuses on the planning and development of a "Gateway Project" worthy of being the entrance to both the East Village Arts district and the eastern edge of downtown Long Beach. It is comprised of approximately 20,000 sq. ft. of ground floor retail, gallery, cafe and civic space, parking for 650 cars which accommodates the project and provides parking for the neighborhood, and houses approximately 310 units of primarily for-sale residential with associated amenities such as a pool and fitness center.

Conceived as an "urban village" inspired by the East Village Arts District, Shoreline Gateway includes a very wide diversity of residential unit types from artist/live-work space to medium size condominiums and possibly some apartments, to large elegant high-rise homes.

Through a collaborative process, involving the redevelopment agency, city staff, local community groups and property owners, AndersonPacific, LLC has created a mixed-use plan that responds to both the iconic city requirements, as well as integrating into the existing urban framework of the adjacent neighborhoods.
The DLBA board voted unanimous support for the Shoreline Gateway project on Ocean Boulevard and Alamitos Avenue. The project, by Anderson Pacific, proposes to build a residential and retail development on the spot that consists of a 22-story tower and a smaller 15 story building.
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For a skyscraper forum, my little Long Beach is really getting busy with condo towers... anyone surprised?
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RDA Board Listens To Big-City
Visions For Downtown

By Steve Irsay
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Long Beach Redevelopment Agency Board Chairman Thomas Fields recently recalled his first impression of downtown Long Beach, saying that a 1977 stroll down Pine Avenue conjured images of “New York by the sea.”

At a Monday meeting of the RDA, Fields was not alone in this big-city vision.

A plan to erect three soaring high-rise towers — the largest topping out at 42 stories — was among nine proposals presented from developers vying for the rights to revitalize up to six public and privately owned sites along Long Beach Boulevard between First and Third streets.

The sites includes the Edison Building — also known as City Hall East — at 100 Long Beach Blvd, the vacant American Hotel Building near Broadway, several parking lots and a number of small businesses.

Some consider the area, which also includes the Metro Blue Line station, an underperforming gateway between the city’s convention and entertainment centers to the south, Pine Avenue to the west and the burgeoning East Village Arts District to the east.

A final development team is scheduled to give a presentation at 8:30 a.m., Monday at City Hall. Then, a selection committee made up of city officials and outside advisors will begin narrowing the field in hopes of naming the finalist or finalists in March 2006, said Amy Bodek, the city’s project development bureau manager.

RDA board member Jane Netherton said the strong showing of interest in the sites was more proof of progress in the downtown revitalization effort.

“Eight years ago, we’d have to beg people to come in and make proposals about downtown,” she told the roughly 75 people in the City Council chambers for the three-hour meeting. “So, we’ve come a long way.”

While some developers literally reached for the sky, others had more homegrown approaches, including one plan to incorporate a Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach museum into a residential loft project.

One of the most sweeping plans came from Pennsylvania-Toll Brothers. The billion-dollar proposal calls for tearing down City Hall East and erecting residential towers rising 42, 38 and 21 stories, resulting in more than 1,200 housing units. There are also plans for a boutique hotel and a 40,000-square-foot Art Exchange.

The plan would drastically alter the downtown skyline and give the city a much-needed “center,” said Doug Otto, a former Long Beach Planning Commissioner brought in to consult on the project.

“This will be the city’s dream realized,” he said. “That is our promise.”

Another high-rise project is Florida-based Lennar’s “The Boulevard,” described as a “master-planned neighborhood” including 170,000-square feet of high-end retail and 1,175 housing units.

Oregon-based Williams & Dame Development proposed building out instead of up, spreading 49,000-square-feet of art space, 14,600-square-feet of retail space and 369 lofts and condos across five 7-story buildings set in pedestrian-friendly green spaces. James Atkins, the company’s senior development project manager, touted the group’s experience building “new, ground-up neighborhoods” in sections of downtown Portland.

“We can replicate this neighborhood-building project in downtown Long Beach,” he said.

In line with the request from the city and RDA, nearly every developer incorporated some form of the proposed Art Exchange — a mixed-use enclave of galleries, live/work spaces and classrooms seen as a potential hub of the East Village Arts District.

“The city has a bright future and we see the Art Exchange as the heart of the East Village area,” said Mark Ferdi of Texas-based Centex Corporation, whose plan would preserve the historic American Hotel building and also build a new community theater.

For downtown Long Beach-based Urban Pacific Builders, the Art Exchange is — and has been — the centerpiece of their downtown plans.

For several years, the company has been partnered with the original non-profit Art Exchange developers, downtown Realtor Phil Appleby and artist Steve Elicker, as well as the local property owners.

The team’s latest proposal includes a 22,000-square-foot Art Exchange for the Industrial Arts, as well as the conversion of City Hall East to lofts and retail, and plans to turn the Bank of America Building at 150 Long Beach Blvd. into a satellite campus for a “well-known art college” from Los Angeles — all while keeping both new construction and building heights to relative lows, said Mark Tolley, managing partner of Urban Pacific.

“We’ve seen some nice proposals today, but we don’t necessarily feel high-rise would be appropriate for this site,” he said.

RDA board member and local architect Rick Meghiddo also questioned the use of high-rise construction. Overall, he gave the presentations mixed reviews.

“I have seen, with few exceptions, little innovation,” he said. “But at least some teams decided to be less ‘careful’ and present ideas to be discussed.”

One such idea may have been from Grand Prix Place LLC, a team proposing the conversion of the 10-story City Hall East into a Grand Prix Museum in the basement and lobby levels topped off by seven stories of lofts, or possibly boutique hotel rooms.

Long Beach Grand Prix founder Chris Pook and current Grand Prix Association of Long Beach President and CEO Jim Michaelian were both on hand to lend support to the project. Michaelian said the museum would give an important local event an “ongoing presence in town.”

“This would be another destination for people to come and participate in the Long Beach lifestyle,” he added.

There are a number of existing businesses among the redevelopment sites, including the family-owned Acres of Books. Co-owner Phil Smith said about 15 years ago another redevelopment proposal threatened the existence of the business he inherited from his grandfather.

“We thought we were safe and here we are again with our store and our livelihood in distress,” he said during a break in the presentations. “It’s troubling.”

Smith said only one developer, Lennar, has approached him about making Acres of Books part of a new development. In its presentation, Toll Brothers expressed an interest in incorporating the store. Other developers have not made their intentions clear, Smith said.

He added that he supported the redevelopment efforts and felt that an influx of artists and other residents to the area would make a bookstore “a good fit.” He just hopes it will be his store, which recently celebrated its 70th anniversary.

“We’ve been in Long Beach a very long time,” he told the RDA board, “and we look forward to staying a little longer.”
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