Winnipeg Roads & Infrastructure

[cllew]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

Seen this come across the City website. Concordia Ave repairs. Says westbound lanes will be closed for a month, then re-open to two way traffic. So are they only repairing one lane of that god foresaken roadway? Also, I don't remember seeing this come through the tender website, maybe I missed it.

http://winnipeg.ca/cao/media/news/nr...20160602.stm#2

Westbound Concordia Avenue between Molson Street and Gateway Road will be completely closed to traffic beginning Saturday, June 4

Motorists should use alternate routes and allow additional travel time

Released: 10:25 a.m.

Winnipeg, MB – Westbound Concordia Avenue between Molson Street and Gateway Road will be completely closed to traffic beginning Saturday, June 4 at 4:00 p.m. for a road reconstruction project. While repairs are underway, the eastbound direction on Concordia Avenue will remain open from Gateway Road to provide access to Concordia Hospital and Kildonan East Collegiate. Westbound hospital access from Molson Street onto Concordia Avenue will remain open. It is anticipated that Concordia Avenue will be reopened to two-way traffic by Monday, July 4, 2016.

Pedestrian access will be maintained while construction is underway. Motorists should allow additional travel time to get to their destinations, and use alternate routes.

For Transit re-route and schedule information, visit winnipegtransit.com or contact 311, available 24 hours every day by phone at 311 or by email at 311@winnipeg.ca.

IF you drive down Concordia the curbs and joints are marked for repair on both sides of the street. I can see this as phase 1 and then they will close down the other side. I can't see them going much past Loulida as that intersection was repaved up to the new work where the Concordia/Molson intersection was rebuild.

[bomberjet]

I received a notification about an upcoming open house for Chief Peguis west extension.

June 29, 4:00pm to 7:00pm at Red River Community Centre.

Haven't see any boards posted as of yet on the website.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

I received a notification about an upcoming open house for Chief Peguis west extension.

June 29, 4:00pm to 7:00pm at Red River Community Centre.

Haven't see any boards posted as of yet on the website.

What a questionable project for a city that has built more roads than it can properly afford to maintain. Building this extension to McPhillips will be more than enough for at least a decade.

Also, I love the proposals for the intersection at Main & CPT. One is an at grade intersection (naturally), two is a SPUI that makes Main Street free-flowing and puts the lights on CPT (classic Winnipeg), three is a normal parclo and four is a weird abomination of a parclo with a flyover that looks like the route was traced by a toddler. Why is it that a normal interchange cannot be built in this city?

http://www.winnipeg.ca/publicworks/c...tersection.pdf

[cllew]

there is a major hydro transmission corridor from the Rosser Terminal station to the big Hydro complex next to the casino on McPhillips. I wonder what hydro will ask the city to pay for the right of crossing the right of way.

[bomberjet]

Damn. That's prime land according to Hydro. Probably $20M or so will do. haha

But yeah the options with free flow on Main and lights on CPT are pure stupidity lol. Whats the point.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

Damn. That's prime land according to Hydro. Probably $20M or so will do. haha

But yeah the options with free flow on Main and lights on CPT are pure stupidity lol. Whats the point.

How does something that asinine even see the light of day? You're going to spend what will inevitably be tens of millions of dollars to separate the grades of the expressway and arterial, and then you want to put a traffic light on the expressway?

[bomberjet]

I think they're just going through the motions, due diligence kind of thing. You can generally pick out what their preferred option is without even reading or talking to anyone. Just look at the pictures and use common sense. The people doing the study are smart, they know it's completely stupid to put lights on the expressway. I would assume at Main St. the regular parclo would go ahead, taking away a few holes from the golf course. Boo.

But it's like leading the sheep. "Okay, we'll put four options out, with three being completely stupid. So the only option left is the one we want to go ahead."

[Gm0ney]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

I think they're just going through the motions, due diligence kind of thing. You can generally pick out what their preferred option is without even reading or talking to anyone. Just look at the pictures and use common sense. The people doing the study are smart, they know it's completely stupid to put lights on the expressway. I would assume at Main St. the regular parclo would go ahead, taking away a few holes from the golf course. Boo.

But it's like leading the sheep. "Okay, we'll put four options out, with three being completely stupid. So the only option left is the one we want to go ahead."

I'm betting it's Option 1 with everything at-grade. But I trust the CoW planners to get it right, as always...

[mcpish]

Out of the options I don't understand why a folded-diamond interchange wasn't considered (exactly like the one at Henderson & The Perimeter, or Rosser Rd & The Perimeter), but with all the ramps on the west side of Main street. Then they can keep the existing pedestrian access, and the golf course on the east side of main, and just use the currently un-used land just west of Main.

example:

[bomberjet]

^Why not right? I heard there will likely be an interchange at Main St. It's like the Rothesay flyover. If it didn't get built originally, it ain't getting done.

[cslusarc]

re: Chief Peguis Trail @ Main Street
I hate at grade intersections where two high volume road intersect and on high speed routes where speed limits are 80 km/h or greater. This leaves removes options 1, the at-grade intersection, and option 2, the single point urban interchange on Chief Peguis Trail (which has a speed limit that is 10 km/h faster than Main Street). This leave option 3,a partial cloverleaf, or option 4, a continuous flow interchange with northbound to westbound flyover, as the remaining options.

[jmt18325]

Actually, the speed limit on main was decrease to 60, so the differential is 20.

[The Jabroni]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

I think they're just going through the motions, due diligence kind of thing. You can generally pick out what their preferred option is without even reading or talking to anyone. Just look at the pictures and use common sense. The people doing the study are smart, they know it's completely stupid to put lights on the expressway. I would assume at Main St. the regular parclo would go ahead, taking away a few holes from the golf course. Boo.

But it's like leading the sheep. "Okay, we'll put four options out, with three being completely stupid. So the only option left is the one we want to go ahead."

As if the proposals haven't been gerrymandered in any sort of way, right guys?

I'm definitely going to that open house, since it's my neck of the woods. It would be nice to take a faster route from Garden City/Maples to East Kildonan/North Kildonan/Transcona.

Traffic on Partridge and Main gets backed up on rush hour all the way to Salter. It wouldn't be too bad if parking weren't allowed on the right lane for the service and sales personnel at Eastern Chrysler. Even then, most of the traffic is going northbound on Main and splitting off to Chief Peguis.

Of course, how can this project go forward if we need to take care of existing infrastructure first, right?

There will always something to complain about.

[bomberjet]

Open house boards are now posted. Doesn't say anything. Waste of time.

http://www.winnipeg.ca/publicworks/c...peguiswest.stm

People want less traffic lights and more grade separations. Go figure. lol So this is just an info session. Further open house in fall will show the actual design I guess.

[The Jabroni]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

Open house boards are now posted. Doesn't say anything. Waste of time.

http://www.winnipeg.ca/publicworks/c...peguiswest.stm

People want less traffic lights and more grade separations. Go figure. lol So this is just an info session. Further open house in fall will show the actual design I guess.

That was a very short survey, if you could call it a survey at all.

[bomberjet]

What's the point? Did you go here? are you going there? Do you understand? lol

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

Open house boards are now posted. Doesn't say anything. Waste of time.

http://www.winnipeg.ca/publicworks/c...peguiswest.stm

People want less traffic lights and more grade separations. Go figure. lol So this is just an info session. Further open house in fall will show the actual design I guess.

Busy time of the year for most people, why didn't they schedule the open house June 30th already make sure even less people attend!

[mcpish]

One of the things I've been mentioning at the Open Houses and Workshops is that I really DON'T want any sort of access from Ferrier to CPT. It sounds like they don't agree with me and want to include it. I've said to them at the very least, make it ONLY a right-in/right-out with curving roads in and out to Ferrier and DO NOT centre-cut the median to allow any sort of westbound turns across CPT from Ferrier (similar to the access of the Assiniboia Down entrance on the West Perimeter). Unless they actually want to spend the extra money to allow for a small underpass for Ferrier below CPT and then a ramp up to CPT westbound (that would be okay). Another idea is to just use an overpass over CPT with no access to CPT (Similar to Rothesay) and just have traffic use Murray Ave to go North/West instead (they can access CPT down at McPhillips that way if needed). Or they can turn Ferrier 90 degrees just before CPT and run it parallel to CPT (ala service road) and connect it to Main Street (merge into CPT's off-ramp onto Main).

I just think it's really imperative that we start demanding these high-capacity roads get built to proper motorway/autobahn/interstate standards. I can't stand when these guys all think it's about "capacity" and try to justify using intersections due to not being able to justify it based on capacity. That's wrong, it's about Safety. All along I-29 in North Dakota the vast majority of those interchanges between Pembina and Grand Forks are used by maybe a half dozen vehicles a day, it's not about capacity it's about safety.

[bomberjet]

They should put up a two lane bridge (one each way) and be done with it. The median opening, as we know, will turn into full on traffic lights soon enough. Really with a couple interchanges, CPT could be an actual freeway. Just do it.

[Spocket]

The optimist in me says they'll actually build grade separation. The realist in me says they'll build nothing and leave the lights right where they are. Because never mind the 21st century, we're still debating whether or not we want to bother with the 20th.