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Originally Posted by GeoNerd
Honestly Harley819, I don't even know where to start, but I'll try. I actually DO know the area quite well thank you. It's a poorly planned piecework of suburban developments in a car dependent area of town, mostly for people that can't afford to live in Ottawa.
Again, a forest is NOT useable park space. Are you going to send your 6 year old daughter walking through a big-box parking lot, across a collector road, into a forrest to play? The closest parking lot (because you would need to drive) in Gatineau Park 7.2km away. That's the closest. All this b.s. about splash pads within a 20 minute walk, park space within 3km, pipe dream mass transit systems, or hypothetical hospitals, is trash. It means nothing. A child or senior is not going to walk 3km to get to a park.
The fact that you are defending building stand alone strip malls with surface parking and some giant slab apartments circa 1975 tells me all i need to know. "This is the perfect spot for more retail" actually made me LOL. This is honestly a piece of sh*t development that lacks any design value whatsoever. I understand that you live here and think driving to Boston Pizza in a strip mall subdivision is a good time. But anyone with any sense of city-building or urban design sees that this is exactly what is wrong with land development. It's lazy, it's ugly, it's cheap, and it should never have been approved. "There's worse out there" is not a good excuse.
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It's a poorly planned piecework of suburban developments in a car dependent area of town, mostly for people that can't afford to live in Ottawa. ' - Du Plateau is a very well executed master-planned community with a full range of housing including affordable rental terrace homes, luxury apartments, townhomes, single family homes, larger luxury single family homes... you name it. 'Mostly for people that can't afford to live in Ottawa' is a ridiculous and inflammatory statement. This is a great neighbourhood with great amenities and the location within a few minutes drive of Downtown is hard to beat. It is 'car-dependent' at the moment but mass transit IS coming in the next few years.
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Again, a forest is NOT useable park space. Are you going to send your 6 year old daughter walking through a big-box parking lot, across a collector road, into a forrest to play? The closest parking lot (because you would need to drive) in Gatineau Park 7.2km away. That's the closest. All this b.s. about splash pads within a 20 minute walk, park space within 3km, pipe dream mass transit systems, or hypothetical hospitals, is trash. It means nothing. A child or senior is not going to walk 3km to get to a park. ' - A forest with hiking trails is the ULTIMATE useable park space. My daughter is five, not six, and we walk or bike down the street to the Boucher Forest frequently. Our favourite activity is a nature walk to the off leash dog park and splash pad on the other side. The closest parking lot in Gatineau Park from the corner of Allumettieres and Vanier is 5kms away, but this is the furthest point in the neighbourhood from the park. The park is easily accessible from the neighbourhood by foot, bike and car. There is no '
b.s. about splash pads' and '
park space within 3km', there ARE splash pads and parks within 3km. I don't even know what you are trying to say here. My family walks and bikes all over the neighbourhood to visit them, so do thousands of other families, just like people do in any other suburban neighbourhood. As for seniors, my Dad lives in Agora in the center of the Plateau, he is a senior, and he walks the entire neighbourhood frequently, along with thousands of other seniors. '
pipe dream mass transit system' Well, it's been announced, so it's hardly a pipe dream. It IS coming.''
hypothetical hospitals' Also officially announced, still waiting on location, but likely coming to this area, not hypothetical.
'The fact that you are defending building stand alone strip malls with surface parking and some giant slab apartments circa 1975 tells me all i need to know. "This is the perfect spot for more retail"' - Please look at the map and tell me what you think would be the best use of this land, keeping in mind it's development is inevitable as it is within the neighbourhood's planned development boundaries' '
I understand that you live here and think driving to Boston Pizza in a strip mall subdivision is a good time. - far from it. While I enjoy having convenient shopping and amenities, we chose to move to this neighbourhood from Wakefield because it has easy access to the nature we are leaving behind while keeping me close to chemotherapy.