AUSTIN | Waterline (98 Red River) | 1,022 FT / 312 M | 73 FLOORS - Page 7

jbermingham123 · #**121** Posted **Oct 6, 2021, 9:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by Zapatan

These days I think supertall = 400+ meters

300 meters is just a very tall building

this is what the system should be i think:

--Class 1 (0-99 meters): "Grade Class"

0-24 meters (1-5 floors) = Grade Level
25-49 meters (5-10 floors) = Lowrise
50-99 meters (10-20 floors) = Midrise

--Class 2 (100-199 meters): "Centi Class"

100-149 meters (20-30 floors) = Highrise (ex. New Yorker Hotel)
150-199 meters (30-40 floors) = Skyscraper (ex. Waldorf-Astoria)

--Class 3 (200-399 meters): "Diacosia Class"

200-299 meters (40-60 floors) = Pretertall (ex. 30 Rockefeller)
300-399 meters (60-80 floors) = Supertall (ex. Chrysler Building)

--Class 4 (400-799 meters): "Tetracosia Class"

400-599 meters (80-120 floors) = Tetratall (ex. 1WTC)
600-799 meters (120-160 stories) = Hexatall (ex. Shanghai Tower)

--Class 5 (800-1599 meters): "Octacosia Class"

800-999 (160-200 stories) = Octotall (ex. Burj Khalifa)
1000-1599 (200-320 stories) = Kilotall (ex. Kingdom Tower)

KevinFromTexas · #**122** Posted **Oct 6, 2021, 9:33 PM**

I would still think of 20 story buildings as a high rise. Now, ones lower than that and I consider them midrises. Truly short ones, say, 5 to 8 or so still have to fit in somewhere. Relabeling other lowrises would mean buildings that short would be...what?

I think a better classification is lowrise, midrise, high rise, skyscraper, supertall, etc.

jbermingham123 · #**123** Posted **Oct 6, 2021, 10:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas

I would still think of 20 story buildings as a high rise. Now, ones lower than that and I consider them midrises. Truly short ones, say, 5 to 8 or so still have to fit in somewhere. Relabeling other lowrises would mean buildings that short would be...what?

I think a better classification is lowrise, midrise, high rise, skyscraper, supertall, etc.

This is true. i made a new system based on powers of 2 that i think fixes this problem

N90 · #**124** Posted **Oct 7, 2021, 1:25 AM**

This is the system that I use

Megatall: 600 meters or 1,969 feet

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...ll_skyscrapers

Supertall: 300 meters or 984 feet

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...ll_skyscrapers

The US has no megatalls nor any plans for one but does have a growing crop of supertalls.

The ATX · #**125** Posted **Oct 20, 2021, 7:16 PM**

X-posting from the Austin sub-forum. Site Prep continues. The site plan revision seems to be close to approval.

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Originally Posted by Urbannizer

KevinFromTexas · #**126** Posted **Oct 29, 2021, 12:01 AM**

FAA tower crane permits:

525 feet - Work Schedule: 11/01/2022 to 07/31/2024
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...98842842&row=2

1,001 feet - Work Schedule: 04/01/2022 to 11/30/2024
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...98842831&row=1

1,236 feet - Work Schedule: 10/01/2022 to 09/30/2025
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...98842830&row=0

Urbannizer · #**127** Posted **Nov 12, 2021, 1:41 AM**

IluvATX · #**128** Posted **Nov 17, 2021, 8:40 PM**

Cross-posting from Austin sub forum:

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Originally Posted by The ATX

Back to the tower...

TOWERS sums up the latest news....

https://austin.towers.net/64-months-...lyn@towers.net

The ATX · #**129** Posted **Dec 12, 2021, 3:21 PM**

From about two weeks ago - site prep/utility work continues while the tower is still awaiting city approval. Site plan activity indicates that approval is real close.

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Originally Posted by Urbannizer

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Zapatan · #**130** Posted **Dec 12, 2021, 10:15 PM**

I'm assuming it's likely to get approved? Will be super exciting to see this U/C

The ATX · #**131** Posted **Dec 13, 2021, 11:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by Zapatan

I'm assuming it's likely to get approved? Will be super exciting to see this U/C

There are no issues with the building itself. The slight hold up seems to be because of new flood regulations since this is along Waller Creek and some right of way issues on Red River because the City is widening Red River St.

ILUVSAT · #**132** Posted **Jan 5, 2022, 9:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by The ATX

Here's the excavation permit for the utility work about to get underway on Red River. The permit confirms that it is for the "98 Red River Waller Creek" project, and it also states that it is for this project's site plan.

https://abc.austintexas.gov/public-s...rtyrsn=2019189

Looks like this one is inching closer and closer to a reality!

Urbannizer · #**133** Posted **Jan 15, 2022, 2:18 AM**

Urbannizer · #**134** Posted **Jan 15, 2022, 2:20 AM**

FAA listing for the cranes. First to go up in April

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...07583938&row=1

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...07583797&row=0

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...07583946&row=2

Steely Dan · #**135** Posted **Jan 15, 2022, 2:44 AM**

This would really be something.

At 1,022', it'd not only be the tallest skyscraper in Texas, it'd also be the tallest US skyscraper by roof height outside of NYC and Chicago, and only the 3rd such US tower over 1,000' by roof height ever built outside of NYC and Chicago.

Go on, Austin, make some big noise!

The ATX · #**136** Posted **Jan 17, 2022, 5:04 PM**

Site prep is already happening for the 98 Red River supertall. But a long term right of way closure permit for construction was filed today. The scheduled start date is 04/04/2022!

https://abc.austintexas.gov/public-s...rtyrsn=2019189

JMKeynes · #**137** Posted **Jan 17, 2022, 5:19 PM**

This tower is incredibly lame.

pianowizard · #**138** Posted **Jan 17, 2022, 5:54 PM**

^It's not that bad, though I prefer the original design, which looks a bit like Chicago's One Museum Park:

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JMKeynes · #**139** Posted **Jan 17, 2022, 6:13 PM**

The original design was really nice.

sentinel · #**140** Posted **Jan 17, 2022, 6:27 PM**

Yeah...I like portions of the new tower design, but it's not very cohesive overall. It's like, pick one section and run with it.