NHL Thread: 2021-2022 Season - Page 198

JHikka · #**3941** Posted **Nov 30, 2021, 10:11 PM**

It's difficult to get excited for a team that hasn't had any playoff success, as you point out. Probably the most jaded the fanbase has been in a long time no matter how good they are in the regular season.

Djeffery · #**3942** Posted **Nov 30, 2021, 11:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by khabibulin

This is why the owners love Gary Bettman.

"The Pittsburgh Penguins are exchanging hands.

The rumoured transaction between Fenway Sports Group and the Ron Burkle and Mario Lemieux-led Penguins ownership coalition was made official on Monday morning with the high-profile investing group, which also owns the Boston Red Sox and Liverpool, buying the NHL club for "around $900 million," according to TSN's Pierre LeBrun.

For Burkle and Lemieux, it's a considerable financial windfall. The two helped save the organization from a certain financial reckoning when they took ownership of the club in 1999 for a reported $107 million.

Burkle will remain part of the ownership group but can now use his staggering profits after three Stanley Cup championships to address businesses reportedly hurt by the pandemic.

Lemieux is also staying on and is expected to remain in his executive role in "guiding hockey operations."

Brian Burke, Ron Hextall, and other members of senior management will continue to reprise their roles under Lemieux."

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/pen...152512757.html

Heard interesting speculation that Fenway might pursue an NBA expansion team for Pittsburgh. This was just a blue-sky speculation on a podcast, and not based on anything more substantial.

Nicko999 · #**3943** Posted **Dec 2, 2021, 4:19 AM**

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

It was a matter of time for MB. If he didn't get fired, he was gonna walk away at the end of this season anyway, because Molson wasn't going to re-sign him. Glad Timmins is out as well.

Draft picks and player development were the main problems under the MB era. He was pretty good with trades though. And because of that, he might find another job with another team.

This being said, when it came to drafting and developing, the Habs were one of the worse in the league under MB. These stats from 2003 to 2020 speak for themselves.

- 27th in the NHL in terms of draft pick points per game. (The leafs are even worse)
- 26th overall in terms of draft picks having played at least 1 game in the NHL. (2 Canadian teams are even worse, Canucks and Flames)
- The only NHL team not to draft a player with 70 points in a season, either for the organization that drafted them or elsewhere afterwards.

That last one says it all.

https://www.rds.ca/hockey/canadiens/...003-1.14681435

To be fair, Max Pacioretty is a PPG player the last 3 years. The fact he hasn't hit 70 pts in a season is strickly because of minor injuries. He's had 6 seasons above 60 pts. He's also a goal scorer. 306 goals and counting. Not every team had drafted such a player since 2003.

As for the other stats, I really wonder how they would look without that famous 2007 draft. Probably dead last in the league by a wide margin.

Timmins was a god awful scout who happened to have one of the best draft in the modern history.
Managed to select: Max Pacioretty, Ryan McDonagh, PK Subban and Yannick Weber.

Combined 1,476 pts and counting as everyone (expect Y. Weber) is still active.

WhipperSnapper · #**3944** Posted **Dec 2, 2021, 5:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by suburbanite

Hell of an investment. Also pretty crazy to think that is was basically pure luck (unless you believe the conspiracy theories) that the Penguins got Malkin and Crosby and weren't sold/relocated after the lockout.

Sports team bubble has outclassed Toronto's real estate bubble. Rogers paid $160 million for the Jays. Their current value is $1.7 billion

Coldrsx · #**3945** Posted **Dec 2, 2021, 7:02 AM**

Solid win at home for the Oilers against the Pens and goalie who?

HomeInMyShoes · #**3946** Posted **Dec 2, 2021, 2:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by Nicko999

To be fair, Max Pacioretty is a PPG player the last 3 years. The fact he hasn't hit 70 pts in a season is strickly because of minor injuries. He's had 6 seasons above 60 pts. He's also a goal scorer. 306 goals and counting. Not every team had drafted such a player since 2003.

As for the other stats, I really wonder how they would look without that famous 2007 draft. Probably dead last in the league by a wide margin.

Timmins was a god awful scout who happened to have one of the best draft in the modern history.
Managed to select: Max Pacioretty, Ryan McDonagh, PK Subban and Yannick Weber.

Combined 1,476 pts and counting as everyone (expect Y. Weber) is still active.

Not hitting 70 points in a season is also due to how the Montreal Canadiens tend to play. While they've often had one player hit 70 (not that they drafted though), I can only think of one team in the last twenty years that was offensively dangerous. 2007-2008. That team only scored 262 goals in a season. Barely more than 3 a game.

HomeInMyShoes · #**3947** Posted **Dec 2, 2021, 2:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Solid win at home for the Oilers against the Pens and goalie who?

McDavid was certainly ready for the Crosby game. +5 in a 5-2 win is pretty much the only stat I need to look at for yesterday.

HomeInMyShoes · #**3948** Posted **Dec 2, 2021, 2:24 PM**

Toronto needs to get out and support this team. Even if they fall flat in the playoffs again they are fun to watch.

I won't even make fun of them for planning a parade route.

suburbanite · #**3949** Posted **Dec 2, 2021, 2:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes

Toronto needs to get out and support this team. Even if they fall flat in the playoffs again they are fun to watch.

I won't even make fun of them for planning a parade route.

It's fun to watch, but I'm still way less invested than I ever have been as a Leafs fan. Won 8-3 against Colorado? Cool, prove yourselves when it matters.

Nicko999 · #**3950** Posted **Dec 5, 2021, 6:05 AM**

20th goal in his 25th game this season for Alexander Ovechkin. Dude is not slowing one bit at 36.

Career goal #750!!! Only 16 goals needed to tie Jaromir Jagr for third all-time.

If it wasn't for lockouts and COVID, he would be at about 800-820 goals already.

I think he passes Howe early next season and will have a shot at Gretzky's record in 2 years.

Denscity · #**3951** Posted **Dec 5, 2021, 6:44 AM**

After 25 games the Canucks now have the worst penalty kill in league history!!

Rollerstud98 · #**3952** Posted **Dec 5, 2021, 2:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by Nicko999

20th goal in his 25th game this season for Alexander Ovechkin. Dude is not slowing one bit at 36.

Career goal #750!!! Only 16 goals needed to tie Jaromir Jagr for third all-time.

If it wasn't for lockouts and COVID, he would be at about 800-820 goals already.

I think he passes Howe early next season and will have a shot at Gretzky's record in 2 years.

I’m so mad about Covid mainly because of it slowing ovechkins likelihood of passing Gretzky down. Fuck you covid!

TownGuy · #**3953** Posted **Dec 5, 2021, 3:27 PM**

Definitely unfortunate, he has been extremely durable considering the style of game he plays also. Big hits and doesn't shy away from contact. The only time he's really missed has been from lockouts and COVID.

suburbanite · #**3954** Posted **Dec 5, 2021, 3:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by TownGuy

Definitely unfortunate, he has been extremely durable considering the style of game he plays also. Big hits and doesn't shy away from contact. The only time he's really missed has been from lockouts and COVID.

Pretty sure there's some crazy stat where he's almost missed more games due to suspension for not playing in the all-star game then he has due to actual injury.

Berklon · #**3955** Posted **Dec 5, 2021, 9:53 PM**

At this point it doesn't matter if OV passes Gretzky, It's hard to deny him being the greatest goal scorer. OV did it with a lot less help than Gretzky had and in an era where scoring was a lot tougher.

thurmas · #**3956** Posted **Dec 6, 2021, 3:18 AM**

I am not sure where Ovi will place in the all time player list. Orr the greatest phenomenon but cut short in his prime, Gretzky the greatest playmaker but had huge help with the team built around him and his prime occurring in the weakest goaltending era of all time. Howe the most durable and best all around player but never having an astonishing season. Mario the best pure offensive power but always befuddled by injuries.

thurmas · #**3957** Posted **Dec 6, 2021, 3:53 AM**

Jets double up on Leafs 6-3 hopefully they are out of their funk now and back on track as they are too talented to be how they were a couple weeks ago.

Coldrsx · #**3958** Posted **Dec 6, 2021, 4:21 AM**

Abysmal effort by the Oilers tonight.

5 and a game for McD.

CanSpice · #**3959** Posted **Dec 6, 2021, 4:39 AM**

Bruce Boudreau is replacing Travis Green as coach in Vancouver, and Jim Benning is out as well.

craner · #**3960** Posted **Dec 6, 2021, 6:10 AM**

Yep - seemed to be just a matter of time.