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ethereal_reality · #**46881** Posted **May 14, 2018, 3:09 AM**

Thanks for letting me know Scott Charles. I'll fix the link. (although Hoss, being the pro that he is, figured out the elbow macaroni

sight unseen)
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Quote:

Originally Posted by GatoVerde

Lupe's Tortilla's is still there, On Cesar Chavez just east of Mott. The theater building is also standing. It is a famous building, part Anarchist history as the Flores Magón Brothers visited L.A. in during or prior to the Mexican Revolution. That same building also hosted some very famous Punk bands during that heyday too.

Yep, you're absolutely right GatoVerde. Thank you!

We discussed the theater building (red arrow below) a long long time ago on nla. If I remember correctly it used to be known as the Paramount Ballroom.

contemporary view 2017

GSV

Here's a look at both Lupe's Tortilleria and the theater building. (from the opposite direction / looking west)

2014

GSV

I love the theater building. (sadly, it's still MISSING it's second story windows in Dec. 2017. What's going on

Does anyone know?
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F.Y.I.

in 2012 the sign was still in pretty good shape. (from this to what you see in 2014 is a BIG difference. I think someone tried to paint over it)

GSV

I can't remember all the different names the theater used to go by.

I know, I know, research is my friend. [UNFORTUNATELY SO IS SLOTH]
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I've never had a Lupe Taco.

ethereal_reality · #**46882** Posted **May 14, 2018, 4:25 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir

Authorities Bust Gang In Bixby Slough!

I really liked your BIG headline Noir Noir. LOL

It took me a bit to figure out what the boys did wrong.

"Three hours after starting new patrol of slough area, LAPD crew makes first haul of juveniles from dangerous slough." so...trespassing(?)

Did anyone notice the huge sign in the distance?

USC

I tried to enlarge it.

It's either a huge double-sided 76 sign...or...maybe an ESSO sign.
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Charles Shanholtzer, Mike Shanholtzer, Robert Shanholtzer, and Jimmy Johnston in the future.

Handsome Stranger · #**46883** Posted **May 14, 2018, 5:10 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

It took me a bit to figure out what the boys did wrong.

"Three hours after starting new patrol of slough area, LAPD crew makes first haul of juveniles from dangerous slough." so...trespassing(?)

One of the boys appears to be holding a towel around his waist. Maybe he took a swim? Or fell in the water?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Did anyone notice the huge sign in the distance?

I tried to enlarge it.

It's either a huge double-sided 76 sign...or...maybe an ESSO sign.

The Esso logo was/is oval shaped.

[Wikimedia Commons]

I'd go with 76.

[ebay]

What's the origin of the name Bixby Slough? Any connection to nearby Bixby Knolls?

oldstuff · #**46884** Posted **May 14, 2018, 3:08 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Thanks for letting me know Scott Charles. I'll fix the link. (although Hoss, being the pro that he is, figured out the elbow macaroni

sight unseen)
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Yep, you're absolutely right GatoVerde. Thank you!

We discussed the theater building (red arrow below) a long long time ago on nla. If I remember correctly it used to be known as the Paramount Ballroom.

contemporary view 2017

GSV

Here's a look at both Lupe's Tortilleria and the theater building. (from the opposite direction / looking west)

2014

GSV

I love the theater building. (sadly, it's still MISSING it's second story windows in Dec. 2017. What's going on

Does anyone know?
___

F.Y.I.

in 2012 the sign was still in pretty good shape. (from this to what you see in 2014 is a BIG difference. I think someone tried to paint over it)

GSV

I can't remember all the different names the theater used to go by.

I know, I know, research is my friend. [UNFORTUNATELY SO IS SLOTH]
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I've never had a Lupe Taco.

A newer picture, taken straighter on, of the old theater building shows that there is an open air walkway upstairs and windows to offices behind. They were apparently working on the building when the first picture was taken.
The lower floor is 2708 and the upper floor is 2606 Cesar Chavez. The building, according to the Assessor's office, was built in 1925. It appears to be the current home of the Boyle Heights Arts Conservancy. The Assessor's office also notes that the taxes are delinguent.

oldstuff · #**46885** Posted **May 14, 2018, 3:16 PM**

[
What's the origin of the name Bixby Slough? Any connection to nearby Bixby Knolls?[/QUOTE]

Bixby Knolls and also Bixby Slough were both part of a huge rancho owned by Jotham Bixby. The property was 16,000 acres which had originally been part of land owned by the Sepulveda family. The property was partitioned out in 1882 and that part went to Bixby.
(information from an article in the Daily Breeze)

Beaudry · #**46886** Posted **May 14, 2018, 6:40 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I really liked your BIG headline Noir Noir. LOL

It took me a bit to figure out what the boys did wrong.

"Three hours after starting new patrol of slough area, LAPD crew makes first haul of juveniles from dangerous slough." so...trespassing(?)

Did anyone notice the huge sign in the distance?

USC

I tried to enlarge it.

It's either a huge double-sided 76 sign...or...maybe an ESSO sign.
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Charles Shanholtzer, Mike Shanholtzer, Robert Shanholtzer, and Jimmy Johnston in the future.

That's the three-sided neon 76 at the Union Oil refinery in Wilmington:

usc

Handsome Stranger · #**46887** Posted **May 14, 2018, 10:04 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff

Bixby Knolls and also Bixby Slough were both part of a huge rancho owned by Jotham Bixby. The property was 16,000 acres which had originally been part of land owned by the Sepulveda family. The property was partitioned out in 1882 and that part went to Bixby.

Thank you. Reading up on Jotham Bixby now. Fascinating stuff.

[source: USC Digital Library]

CityBoyDoug · #**46888** Posted **May 14, 2018, 10:20 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger

Thank you. Reading up on Jotham Bixby now. Fascinating stuff.

[source: USC Digital Library]

zHouse

HossC · #**46889** Posted **May 14, 2018, 10:24 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

"1942 Press Photo 30-Foot High Stack Rubber Tires Falls in Los Angeles"

EBAY

Was the tire stacking an annual event? These photos appear to have been taken at the same location, but LAPL dates them at 1928. Kalil's Cafeteria was at 6361 Sunset, the same address as Hofbrau Garden in another picture we saw recently. It seems a long time since we had a chop suey sign on NLA

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A man is sitting on top a stack of automobile tires at Muller Brothers Super Service Station at the corner of Sunset and Cahuenga Boulevards. The stack is about 150 feet high. Across the street is the Hollywood Laundry Company.

LAPL

This is looking more toward Vine Street. It ties in reasonably with the 1927/28 aerials I posted at the weekend.

I think 150 feet is quite an exaggeration. Assuming that the man on the right is about six feet tall, I think that 50 feet is nearer the mark. It's still better that the 30 feet achieved in 1942!

LAPL

ethereal_reality · #**46890** Posted **May 14, 2018, 10:37 PM**

Ahhh, so they did put a man on top!

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I didn't realize the laundry company had those three tall smoke stacks and boilers. (or whatever they are)

detail

I really like the old chop suey building. (I see there's a sign shop over there too)

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GaylordWilshire · #**46891** Posted **May 14, 2018, 11:45 PM**

Speaking of unsolved postwar murders and disappearances...

We don't seem to have ever seen on NLA the "fruit murder"--to quote LAPD detective Ed Jokisch, in a late-in-life interview late with Larry Harnisch--of William H Bonsall II.... I came across the case while researching the house (still) at 1315 West Adams Boulevard (story here). The Harvard-educated lawyer apparently shopped for companionship in Pershing Square one too many times. Found naked, beaten, bloody, and about to die in the driveway of the house his great-grandfather, an owner of the Times-Mirror Co, had built at the sec of today's West Third and Lucas. There seems to have still been plenty of money, so it seems odd that the family would return to the declining neighborhood--and allow a filling station to be built in the front yard--after living in West Adams and Beverly Hills... family noir....

Has anyone got anything on this victim of his times?

LAT Feb 17, 1946

ethereal_reality · #**46892** Posted **May 15, 2018, 4:15 AM**

This photograph I happened upon this morning made me think of the recently discussed Horticultural Hall.

1889 original photo AGRICULTURAL FAIR LOS ANGELES CALIF

note the room appears to have an upper and lower row of windows on the sides and a stage at one end.

EBAY

"An 1889 photo by Dewey, 147 South Main St., Los Angeles, Cal., apparently of an indoor agricultural fair display.
A sign on the wall at right center gives figures for the 1889 production of oranges, apples, peaches, pears, etc., in a 2-square-mile area."

I thought this was the type of display that would have been held at Horticulture Hall, but Horticulture Hall was GONE by 1889, right?

I ask because the main hall in Hort Hall also had a stage at one end (I = stage)

as well as windows along the sides.

Here's a closer look at the 1889 exhibit room.

detail

I don't believe that fountain over there------> is the one mentioned earlier (with the 25 ft. spray and 'lakelet') [BUT I DREAM OF POSSIBILITIES]
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The other location that came to mind was the Los Angeles Chamber of Commerce.

for example:

Here is the exhibit room of the Los Angeles Area Chamber of Commerce in 1900 - 1905.
(located on Broadway between First Street and Second Street)

wikipedia

Could someone tell me where the chamber of commerce was located in 1889? (and whether or not it had an exhibit room)

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odinthor · #**46893** Posted **May 15, 2018, 4:27 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

This photograph made me think of the recently discussed Horticultural Hall.

1889 original photo AGRICULTURAL FAIR LOS ANGELES CALIF

note the room appears to have an upper and lower row of windows on the sides and a stage at one end.

EBAY

"An 1889 photo by Dewey, 147 South Main St., Los Angeles, Cal., apparently of an indoor agricultural fair display.
A sign on the wall at right center gives figures for the 1889 production of oranges, apples, peaches, pears, etc., in a 2-square-mile area."

I thought this was the type of display that would have been held at Horticulture Hall, but Horticulture Hall was GONE by 1889, right?

I ask because the main hall in Hort Hall also had a stage at one end (I = stage)

as well as windows along the sides.

Here's a closer look at the 1889 exhibit room.

detail
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The other location that came to mind was the Los Angeles Chamber of Commerce.

for example:

Here is the exhibit room of the Los Angeles Area Chamber of Commerce in 1900 - 1905.
(located on Broadway between First Street and Second Street)

wikipedia

Could someone tell me where the chamber of commerce was located in 1889? (and whether or not it had an exhibit room)

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e_r, according to the whimsical site http://web.csulb.edu/~odinthor/socal6.html, and talking about the most familiar site (well, to me) of the C of C:

"The Los Angeles Chamber of Commerce building, on the east side of the 100s block of Broadway. The building, also known as the Southwest Building, had 130 S. Broadway as its address; the Chamber of Commerce, which moved here in 1903, and stayed until January 31, 1925, used 138 S. Broadway as its address. Previously, the Chamber, founded in 1888, had been sited initially on N. Main Street, then at what was to become the Tajo Building lot at 1st and Broadway, moving in 1890 to the Mott Building at 131 S. Main Street, and moving in 1894 to the then-new Mason Building at the southeast corner of Broadway and 4th."

Exhibit room in the older building(s)? Hmmm . . . [begins clicking around]

ethereal_reality · #**46894** Posted **May 15, 2018, 4:33 AM**

Thank you odinthor. (so the only information for 1889 is N. Main St?)

I'M CLICKING AROUND LIKE A MAD MAN TOO]

ethereal_reality · #**46895** Posted **May 15, 2018, 4:46 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger

I'd go with 76.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry

That's the three-sided neon 76 at the Union Oil refinery in Wilmington:

usc

Thanks Beaudry and Handsome Stranger.

Is this the 76 Sign in question?

i.pinimg.

I ask because that sign

looks alot closer to the actual refinery than the sign in the 'boy gang' photo.

or perhaps the photographer used a special camera lens)..maybe

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ethereal_reality · #**46896** Posted **May 15, 2018, 5:14 AM**

Pavement on West 64th Street marks the borders of Los Angeles and Inglewood. [June 5, 1961]

latimes

"The inferior pavement - the one with the holes on the right - is in Los Angeles. The left side of the street is Inglewood.
Chester Ave. in Inglewood becomes Verdun Ave. in Los Angeles. That's Bob Cox of the Southern California Gas Co.
just inside Inglewood." -JOHN MALMIN

Believe it or not they're still doing it the same way after all these years.

GSV

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odinthor · #**46897** Posted **May 15, 2018, 5:29 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor

e_r, according to the whimsical site http://web.csulb.edu/~odinthor/socal6.html, and talking about the most familiar site (well, to me) of the C of C:

"The Los Angeles Chamber of Commerce building, on the east side of the 100s block of Broadway. The building, also known as the Southwest Building, had 130 S. Broadway as its address; the Chamber of Commerce, which moved here in 1903, and stayed until January 31, 1925, used 138 S. Broadway as its address. Previously, the Chamber, founded in 1888, had been sited initially on N. Main Street, then at what was to become the Tajo Building lot at 1st and Broadway, moving in 1890 to the Mott Building at 131 S. Main Street, and moving in 1894 to the then-new Mason Building at the southeast corner of Broadway and 4th."

Exhibit room in the older building(s)? Hmmm . . . [begins clicking around]

e_r, At least in 1890, there were facilities for display at the C of C--indeed, exhibition rooms (plural) . . .

LA Times July 6, 1890, via ProQuest via CSULB Library

ethereal_reality · #**46898** Posted **May 15, 2018, 5:41 AM**

Good find odinthor. thanks for the additional information.

CityBoyDoug · #**46899** Posted **May 15, 2018, 1:21 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Pavement on West 64th Street marks the borders of Los Angeles and Inglewood. [June 5, 1961]

latimes

"The inferior pavement - the one with the holes on the right - is in Los Angeles. The left side of the street is Inglewood.
Chester Ave. in Inglewood becomes Verdun Ave. in Los Angeles. That's Bob Cox of the Southern California Gas Co.
just inside Inglewood." -JOHN MALMIN

Believe it or not they're still doing it the same way after all these years.

GSV

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I heard that the city boundary line is off by one inch. Needs to be moved to the left about 1.5 inches. Could something be done about this?

Rustifer · #**46900** Posted **May 15, 2018, 3:37 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Believe it or not, this is Mueller Bros. as well.

Did it really have a CONTROL TOWER?

johnstraub

In 1951 the Muller Bros., an Oldsmobile-Firestone Tire-Car Wash-Cafe-Body Shop-Home Appliance-Auto Supply Dealer located at Sunset and Ivar in L.A., named their complex
"The Landing." With good reason, they had everything you could want on one lot. It was giant compared to most new and used car dealers of the time, even had a control tower.
They came up with the idea to hold a beauty contest to celebrate the 3,000,000th car to be pulled through its car wash."

Arrival

Miss Infra-Red Paint Job.....what the heck is a Infra-Red paint job?

Circling the wagons.

johnstraub

Miss Polished Knob

You can see all of the photographs HERE

I BELIEVE SOME OF THE PICS ARE NLA REPEATS.

Perhaps they could also flash the "Miss Control Tower" sign as a warning to aircraft circling close by? Just sayin'...