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Old Posted Feb 13, 2019, 11:08 PM
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Jericho Lands Planning Program

The long awaited process starts this March

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Jericho Lands welcome and open house
Saturday, March 2, 2019, 12 – 4pm
We're co-hosting a launch event with the Musqueam Indian Band, Squamish Nation, and Tsleil-Waututh Nation (MST Nations) and Canada Lands Company (CLC).

The event will include welcome speeches and ceremonial celebrations (12pm - 1pm) and an open house (1pm – 4pm).

Community members are invited to come learn about the process, project background, City policies, proponent aspirations, talk to City staff, and meet the proponent team.

Location Jericho Hill Pool and Gymnasium
4180 W 4th Ave
https://vancouver.ca/news-calendar/c...id%3D131368056

If you can't make the first event, there's a second

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Jericho Lands open house
Thursday, March 7, 2019, 4:30 – 7:30pm
We're co-hosting a launch event with the Musqueam Indian Band, Squamish Nation, and Tsleil-Waututh Nation (MST Nations) and Canada Lands Company (CLC).

This open house is another opportunity to learn about the Jericho Lands policy planning program and will display the same information as the first event on March 2.

Location Jericho Hill pool and gymnasium
4180 W 4th Ave
https://vancouver.ca/news-calendar/c...id%3D131368103

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Jericho Lands Planning Program
The Jericho Lands are a 36-hectare (90 acre) area in Vancouver’s West Point Grey neighbourhood bounded by W 4th Avenue, Highbury Street, W 8th Avenue, and Discovery Street.

The site is within the traditional territories of the Musqueam, Squamish, and Tsleil-Waututh Nations (MST) and owned by the MST Nations and Canada Land Company (CLC).
https://vancouver.ca/home-property-d...cho-lands.aspx

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On July 24, 2018, Council approved the Jericho Lands Policy Planning Program, which is the start of a two-year process to create a policy statement.

The policy statement will establish principles, objectives, and policies on: reconciliation, affordable housing, land use, density, height, public benefits, transportation, built form, character, sustainability, infrastructure, and phases of development.
https://council.vancouver.ca/20180724/documents/a2.pdf
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Old Posted Apr 6, 2019, 6:03 AM
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Inspire Jericho Talks: Creating Great Neighbourhoods
Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 7 – 9:15pm
April 17 will be the first in a series of speaker events intended to share inspiration, spark ideas, and explore the possibilities for the redevelopment of the Jericho Lands. Come join us as urbanist and award-winning author Charles Montgomery discusses how we create healthier, happier, and more inclusive communities.

There will be an opportunity to provide City staff with feedback which will help shape the planning process.

You need to register to attend the event. Registration is free
https://vancouver.ca/news-calendar/c...id%3D132053523

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Charles Montgomery is an urbanist and leader of interventions to improve well-being in cities around the world. He is the award-winning author of the acclaimed book, Happy City: Transforming Our Lives Through Urban Design.
Learn more about Charles Montgomery: http://www.charlesmontgomery.ca
Register: https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/inspire-...ts-59713512724
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Working group: accepting applications
A Jericho Lands Working Group is being convened as part of the policy planning process. We'll be looking for community members to participate by sharing their time, expertise, and knowledge as the Jericho Lands Policy Statement is developed over the next two years.

We’re now accepting applications and encourage anyone interested in participating to submit a completed form by the June 7, 2019 deadline. For more information on the expected roles and responsibilities of working group members, please read the terms of reference PDF file (290 KB).

Download the application PDF file (606 KB)

Application forms can be returned electronically or via mail to:

Email: jericholands@vancouver.ca
Mail: 453 W 12th Avenue, Vancouver, V5Y 1V4 (Attention: Zak Bennett)

If you have any questions, please contact the planning team at jericholands@vancouver.ca.
https://vancouver.ca/home-property-d...cho-lands.aspx

With all the complaints on the forum about a lack of density, tall buildings, and the shortcomings in the various community plans, here's a chance for our little community to do something about it.

For those who don't try to get involved now, I don't want to hear any complaining in the future.

Link to the application :
https://vancouver.ca/files/cov/jeric...ation-form.pdf
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The summary of the first round of public engagement on the Jericho process has been published.

Over 900 people are signed up for email updates, and the questionnaires received over 600 responses. Of the later, 44% of respondents were over the age of 60, with only 22% under the age of 40.

There was 73% support for lowrise buildings (5-6 floors), 41% for midrises (7 - 14), and 17% for buildings over 15 floors. In contrast, 6% expressed that they would prefer neither townhomes, nor any of the above.

https://vancouver.ca/files/cov/jeric...nt-summary.pdf



The design team has also been announced:


https://vancouver.ca/files/cov/jeric...er-digital.pdf



Finally, a set of draft "Guiding Principals" has also been released, and there's a link to submit your thoughts on them below.


https://shapeyourcity.ca/12536/widge...ocuments/36303

Survey link:
https://shapeyourcity.ca/jericho-lan...urvey#tool_tab
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Draft guiding principles released for giant Jericho Lands project

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The city of Vancouver has released its “draft guiding principles” for the giant Jericho Lands development. But they’re more about the philosophy of the development than any specific details on what will be built.

Because the 90-acre site is co-owned by MST Development, a company owned by three local First Nations, the first guiding principle is to “reflect and respect the past, present and future legacies of the Musqueam, Squamish and Tsleil-Waututh.”

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City planner Kirsten Robinson said the developers have hired Toronto urban design and planning consultants Urban Strategies Inc. to oversee the project, but there are no designs that can be released just yet.

“I think we hope to have a plan by early 2021 (where) people will start to see the pieces starting to come together,” she said. “But it will depend on how our engagement goes in the fall, and how successful that is.”

She said it’s too early to say what type of buildings will go upon the site, which is between West 4nd and West 8th Avenues north and south and Highbury and Discovery Streets east and west.

“I would expect it will be a comprehensive new development, so there will be a mix of housing types and tenures,” she said. “There will likely be local serving commercial. We’ve been talking a little bit about its role within the Broadway corridor, and if there is some office and service type uses on the site.”

Robinson said TransLink is also studying how to integrate the site into a proposed SkyTrain extension to UBC.

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But the Jericho site isn’t a reserve, so it’s being treated like a regular development. This means 20 per cent of the units will be set aside for social housing, and 10 per cent for rental.

There are two land parcels in the site. The eastern side is co-owned by MST and Canada Lands, a federal body, the western side is wholly owned by MST. But Robinson said it is being planned as one development.

“It’s probably a 30-year plan,” she said. “It will probably take us five to seven years to the point where they’re starting construction. The planning process is long.”

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A 20 percent social housing component on the Westside? This is going to be interesting.
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So long as it averages ten floors or more, I'll take it.
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So long as it averages ten floors or more, I'll take it.
OV has a great mix of scale and size. I would love to debrief on what works and what doesn't work in OV and implement the improved version here.
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With the delay in planning caused by physical distancing rules, it's hard to say what will be approved here, and I certainly won't speculate. That said, it's public knowledge that there's a 200 foot height difference between the property's lowest point at the northeast corner, and the highest at the southwest.

Obviously, though some have argued otherwise, it's unrealistic to expect a maximum density of duplexes, with 6 floor buildings on the arterial streets. No one would go through this process only to build what's already allowed by existing policy.
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OV has a great mix of scale and size. I would love to debrief on what works and what doesn't work in OV and implement the improved version here.
An OV on Jericho would be awesome. Much better vantage point, too.
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The summary of the first round of public engagement on the Jericho process has been published.

Over 900 people are signed up for email updates, and the questionnaires received over 600 responses. Of the later, 44% of respondents were over the age of 60, with only 22% under the age of 40.

There was 73% support for lowrise buildings (5-6 floors), 41% for midrises (7 - 14), and 17% for buildings over 15 floors. In contrast, 6% expressed that they would prefer neither townhomes, nor any of the above.

https://vancouver.ca/files/cov/jeric...nt-summary.pdf



The design team has also been announced:


https://vancouver.ca/files/cov/jeric...er-digital.pdf



Finally, a set of draft "Guiding Principals" has also been released, and there's a link to submit your thoughts on them below.


https://shapeyourcity.ca/12536/widge...ocuments/36303

Survey link:
https://shapeyourcity.ca/jericho-lan...urvey#tool_tab
The deadline to submit comments on the draft guiding principles have been extended to September 25 if anyone wanted to still get in their thoughts.
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Lmao at the guiding principles.
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Lmao at the guiding principles.
I have never read so much that says so little.

Its like a high school project where you make sure to include the "keywords" so you pretend like you read the whole book.

Its going to be a bunch of streets, bunch of midrise, and probably one or two 10-12 floor buildings.
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That's politics. City planners need a place to throw in the MST acknowledgement and/or keep all the NIMBYs happy with the right "neighbourhood character" buzzphrases.
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As part of the reconciliation process, the City needs to seriously consider greater densities in order for the First Nations to maximize their return on investment. It would be morally reprehensible if the mostly white residents in Jericho were to try and dictate what the Natives could do with their land.
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Not expressing an opinion on anything, but I do wonder what people think about points 5, 6, 7 & 8. Allowing for new buildings types, planning for future population growth, as well as transit connections (stations)/ growth in the surrounding area might be ideas that would interest some here.

Also worth noting is that in the Jane's Walk tours they mentioned that the height from the lowest point of the site, to the highest elevation, is about 200 feet.
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Jericho Lands planning proceeds slowly, especially with pandemic

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The directive went out long ago that the deadline for military personnel to move out of the sprawling Jericho Lands would be January 2017 to make way for a potentially massive First Nations-led housing development.

But the Dill family is still on the property, known as the Jericho Garrison. One of military families still living in the about 50 small homes on the eastern portion of the spacious 36-hectare hillside property, they say they’ve been told their lease extends until at least 2023.

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Development of the Jericho Lands, which the Musqueam Indian Band, Squamish Nation and Tsleil-Waututh Nation bought in 2016 from the provincial and federal governments, has been proceeding slowly — some say the pandemic seems to have ground the city review process to a halt. (The military housing area is 50 per cent owned by the Canada Lands Company, a federal Crown corporation.)

Nearby residents are trying to get an idea of what vision the First-Nations-run MST Development Corporation has for the property — especially since residents are disturbed Vancouver council appears to be looking favourably upon what they see as a nearby precedent — a 14-storey tower to go up just 100 metres from the Jericho Lands.

“People have talked about there being 1,000 to 25,000 residents on the Jericho Lands. But no one in any position of power has ever told me what they’re thinking of in regards to numbers,” said Murray Hendren, who lives next to the Jericho Lands and co-chairs a city advisory committee on its future.

“Let’s just keep it reasonable. … We don’t want another Oakridge here,” said Hendren, referring to the slew of residential towers being built along Cambie between 41st and 49th.

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Michael Geller, a retired architect who developed an 11-storey residential building on Fourth Avenue adjacent to the Jericho Lands, said it’s difficult to say whether the Jericho Lands process is going quickly or slowly.

“But what I would say is it should go slowly, because it’s such a significant property.”

Decision makers, Geller said, have been wise to avoid prematurely forcing out the military families. One of the worst planning decisions in recent decades, he said, was the forced removal of social-housing tenants at Little Mountain in Vancouver, which has still not been developed.

Geller supports a mix of low-rise and highrise residential buildings for the Jericho Lands, which he thinks will eventually bring in “tens of thousands” of new residents to Point Grey, which has a population of about 12,000, while Kitsilano has 43,000. “It could be exactly the kind of place that people who are already in the neighbourhood might want to move into.”

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Every major housing development in Metro Vancouver draws intense scrutiny — and that is the case with the Jericho Lands, which stretch for one kilometre, by far the largest chunk of property controlled by the First Nations consortium.

The West Point Grey Residents Association last year produced a sophisticated 23-page report on the Jericho Lands, which includes a survey of more than 815 nearby residents.

The survey found strong support for two and four-storey buildings on the Jericho Lands, moderate support for six-storey apartment complexes and less than two per cent support for towers above 20 storeys.

More recently the association has obtained 2,901 signatures on an online Change.org petition opposing a 14-storey Westbank complex at Broadway and Alma, which it maintains would “set a precedent for the forthcoming development in the Jericho Lands, which lie only one block away.”

While Hendren believes city staff, First Nations and federal officials want to do a good job on the Jericho Lands, he said residents fear council members will give the go-ahead to the Broadway and Alma tower, as well as for too many highrises at Jericho, because they imagine there will soon be a subway line along Broadway to UBC.

The worry, Hendren said, is in light of COVID-19 restrictions, that demand for housing in the neighbourhood will not be that intense — because the subway line might not get built, fewer students, particularly from abroad, might attend UBC and that, conceivably, more people will be working out of home offices in the suburbs.

There will be many, many discussions to come, in public and behind the scenes. Hendren, who is retired, suspects there will not be a “shovel in the ground” on the Jericho Lands for up to six years. And that the project won’t be entirely “built out” for 30 years.

“I won’t be around then.”
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The ending of that article is the most important part.
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The ending of that article is the most important part.
Nauseating that shovels wont hit the ground for 6 years.

Also nauseating that residents who wont even be around to see this go up are fully intent on standing in its way.

Also total laugh at major support for 2 or 4 story. Yah, so in other words the residents want a bunch of SFH put up on the land.

Get a grip people, its 2020 and we are nearly a 3 million person metropolis.
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Nauseating that shovels wont hit the ground for 6 years.

Also nauseating that residents who wont even be around to see this go up are fully intent on standing in its way.

Also total laugh at major support for 2 or 4 story. Yah, so in other words the residents want a bunch of SFH put up on the land.

Get a grip people, its 2020 and we are nearly a 3 million person metropolis.
That 6 years quote was only one person's opinion. Of course if they don't start offering specifics soon it could well end up being 6 years.

Yeah some of the locals are in full Nimby mode - that shouldn't be any surprise. Everyone here who lives in Vancouver should submit comments on it - that would help to blunt the Nimbys power.
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