Jericho Lands Planning Program

[dleung]

Not a fan of either scheme since the built form looks like it could be anywhere rather than celebrating the unique topography and views from the site, but at least the Eagle scheme has a clear diagonal axis through the site with sightlines to downtown Vancouver to orient people, and I can imagine a cascading creek feature running downhill along that axis as a unifying element for the neighbourhood

[djmk]

Hopefully that is that a soccer field in the middle.

are this reclaimed/natural streams or fake water features?

[Feathered Friend]

Jericho Coalition Opposes Plans for Jericho Lands

$3,255 raised of $10,000 goal
36 donations

Tom Stevens is organizing this fundraiser.
We all love the Jericho area in West Point Grey next to Kitsilano, with its parks and beaches, and we hope you do too. That's why we are asking for your help.

The MST Development Corp and Canada Lands Company want to build 64 high-rises, ranging from 15-38 storeys, on 90 acres of the Jericho Lands. This development would be a massive overreach in scale and density, and it would put a giant scar on Vancouver's sightlines.

• The density and built form are not compatible with the surrounding neighbourhoods and are without precedent for Vancouver. The development would have a density of 50,000/km² – 2.5 x more than the West End and 3 x denser than False Creek North.
• The proposal envisions a separate "transit-oriented" development, although there is no certainty that a subway extension will ever be built. Even with a subway, the development, with its projected 20,000 residents, would create massive traffic congestion throughout Kitsilano and West Point Grey.
• The proposed towers in this dense development are designed to exploit the view and monetize it. This is not a development for Vancouverites, and it will do little to mitigate Vancouver's housing crisis.
• A development this dense would profoundly impact the natural and recreation values of Jericho Park and the beaches beyond, which offer a refuge from the urban cityscape for all Vancouverites.

We welcome an urban development for the Jericho Lands that replicates the scale and density such as the Arbutus Walk area (NW of 12th Avenue & Arbutus Street).

We urge City Council to pause the project approval process and require the developers to redesign their project at an appropriate scale and density.

We are a small group of dedicated citizens who want to prevent this gigantic development. We would welcome an alternative plan at an appropriate scale and density.

Please support our lobbying efforts by donating. Thank you!

https://www.gofundme.com/f/jericho-c...ho-lands-plans

BillTieleman @BillTieleman
Replying to @charlesincities
The Jericho Coalition is a client who I support as a Kitsilano resident. Other local residents make up this new Coalition. Not everyone wants to be publicly bashed for demanding democratic consultation about an enormous development. /1 https://jerichocoalition.org

https://twitter.com/BillTieleman/sta...52308014886912


I can safely say I've never seen this before. Some of the West Point Grey Residents Association members have formed a new opposition group, set up a fund raiser that's received over $3,200 in donations to oppose the Jericho Lands, and hired a consultation firm to aid their efforts too.

[jollyburger]

There's a reason why they want that scale of development. I mean most of their points are laughable at best especially considering who is backing the project.

[GenWhy?]

I think when these folks say "we love Kits" they actually mean west of Vine Street.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

I think when these folks say "we love Kits" they actually mean west of Vine Street.

Rather, they like living there and coming to Kits. Kits coming to them would be the Worst Thing Ever (TM).

[Vin]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Rather, they like living there and coming to Kits. Kits coming to them would be the Worst Thing Ever (TM).

I bet they even love coming downtown: the nicer areas.

[svlt]

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

I think when these folks say "we love Kits" they actually mean west of Vine Street.

That doesn't even capture the beach or Kits Point - which has some of the more expensive RE in the neighborhood!

[Migrant_Coconut]

In other news, Patrick Condon has finally outed himself as a reactionary.

The Jericho Lands Need a Human-Scaled Rethink

(link)

... Tall buildings of such mass cast shadows to match. We have seen the shadow simulations. Expect serious impacts on Jericho Park and habitat spaces. And yet, even these renderings do not fully represent the maximum number of additional tall buildings that the city has signalled it may consider. While the renderings show a combination of mid- to high-rise buildings, the plans and their explanatory key indicate buildings may go “up to” significantly greater heights.

The Jericho Coalition is a group of engaged and concerned volunteer citizens — including planners, engineers, architects and environmentalists — who have come together after only recently learning about the city’s proposals. They are opposed to the proposed approach, not solely because of the maximum heights but for multiple reasons. The towers are too big, unsustainable and units will be too expensive, to name a few.

Moreover, their modelling leads them to conclude the “scaled back” version rendered by the proponents above could actually become the scenario below including the prospect of 63 towers. The coalition has used these “up to” maximum heights to produce the images below...

... Vancouver area planners have a term for putting clusters of dense high-rises around train stations — “transit-oriented development.” A prime example is Burnaby’s Metrotown. And now it appears something of a similar monumental scale is proposed for Vancouver’s west side.

Is there an alternative? Are there better ways to build out this site that produce as many units of housing, as much density and a similar number of units per acre? And if so, would the city consider a less overpowering option?...

... Instead of a cluster of high-rises, this is what the Jericho Lands community could be:

... Guess what? The comparative images below equally produce the same developable floor area (approximately 693,000 square metres or 7,459,390 square feet), at the same density, and with the same net building footprint (approximately 100,000 square metres or 1,076,391 square feet) with the community’s proposal providing even more public park space (an additional 4,685 square metres or 50,429 square feet). The contrast between visual impacts from eye level are obvious. But the difference in community quality is even more significant...

The actual Eagle, for reference. So somehow less public space becomes more public space? Does he also have a bridge for sale, by any chance?

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

In other news, Patrick Condon has finally outed himself as a reactionary.

The Jericho Coalition is a group of engaged and concerned volunteer citizens — including planners, engineers, architects and environmentalists — who have come together after only recently learning about the city’s proposals. They are opposed to the proposed approach, not solely because of the maximum heights but for multiple reasons. The towers are too big, unsustainable and units will be too expensive, to name a few.

The actual Eagle, for reference. So somehow less public space becomes more public space? Does he also have a bridge for sale, by any chance?

Seriously - they're just learning about this project *now*? What have all these professional people been doing for the last three years? You'd think if they were dead set against this project they would have spoken up right away when they had (no) hope in hell of achieving anything.

Not that it would have made much of a difference, as the CoV isn't the people they get to complain at. I'm sure the First Nations behind this are going to care soooo much that local Nimbys are having conniption fits.

Honestly most of the Metro region will have to accept the fact that SFH isn't the be all and end all, and that we need to densify across the board. Maybe if we'd already started doing that then this project wouldn't be as big (or more likely it wouldn't stand out as much as it does now).

FYI I like that 'scary' tall towers image.

[GenWhy?]

"The Jericho Coalition is a group of engaged and concerned volunteer citizens — including planners, engineers, architects and environmentalists "

Odd, they didn't include affordable housing advocates, renters, families with young kids...

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

"The Jericho Coalition is a group of engaged and concerned volunteer citizens — including planners, engineers, architects and environmentalists "

Odd, they didn't include affordable housing advocates, renters, families with young kids...

They also need to post a diversity statement of their grand coalition of balding white guys with glasses.

[Migrant_Coconut]

In fairness, there should also be some white soccer moms in the mix, plus the Asian lawyer they hired to sue the City.

[Vin]

"The Jericho Coalition is a group of engaged and concerned volunteer citizens — including planners, engineers, architects and environmentalists"

I bet that's a blatant lie, or at least perhaps just one of each profession represented, and a retired one at that:
perpetually enjoying BBQ-ing in his SFH backyard patio with the Karen wife while secretly cheering on Trump.

[Feathered Friend]

Phase 3.5
Between March 6 and March 26, we’re adding a new phase in the planning process (Phase 3.5). The intention is to provide a project and process update and share the outcomes of the landowners’ recent engagement with the Host Nations.

Next steps
We’re working towards Phase 4 of engagement where we’ll be sharing a refined site concept and other information in June 2023.

https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/jericho-lands

Inspire Jericho Talks: Creating Great Neighbourhoods: Celebrating MST Culture at ʔəy̓alməxw/Iy̓álmexw/Jericho Lands

How do we return Indigenous culture to the lands it came from? How do we integrate traditional ways of being in a contemporary context? How can Indigenous design principles help shape the future of our city and region?

Come and hear from Cultural Liaisons from the xʷməθkʷəy᾽əm (Musqueam), Sḵwx̱ wú7mesh (Squamish), and səlilwətaɬ (Tsleil-Waututh) Nations as they share how stories, ideas, wisdom and aspirations from their knowledge keepers, elders and communities set the foundation for planning and design of the ʔəy̓alməxw/Iy̓álmexw/Jericho Lands.

The Cultural Liaisons
Charleen Grant, xʷməθkʷəy᾽əm (Musqueam)
Sxelaltenaat-Adrienne Charlie and Ts’kanchtn-Calvin Charlie-Dawson, Sḵwx̱wú7mesh (Squamish)
Whonoak-Dennis Thomas and William George Thomas, səlilwətaɬ (Tsleil-Waututh)


Inspire Jericho Talks is a speaker series to share inspiration, spark ideas and explore the possibilities for the Jericho Lands redevelopment.

When: Thursday, April 13, 2023 - 7:00pm - 9:00pm (Doors open 6:30pm)

Where: UBC Robson Square, C300 (Theatre), 800 Robson Street, Vancouver

Tickets are complimentary; however, seating is limited and advance registration is required

https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/inspire-...s-536240609097

[madog222]

"Future of Vancouver's Jericho Lands to be revealed on June 16"

https://vancouversun.com/opinion/col...led-on-june-16

MST and CoV remain tight lipped until then.

[jollyburger]

They're building the towers. There ain't no option C for their fantasy land townhouses idea.

[Coldrsx]

Interesting history for the CEO

Chief Executive OfficerChief Executive Officer
MST Development CorporationMST Development Corporation
Dec 2016 - Present · 6 yrs 7 mosDec 2016 - Present · 6 yrs 7 mos
Aquilini Development logo
PresidentPresident
Aquilini DevelopmentAquilini Development
2007 - Nov 2016 · 9 yrs 11 mos2007 - Nov 2016 · 9 yrs 11 mos
Concord Pacific Developments Inc. logo
Senior Vice PresidentSenior Vice President
Concord Pacific Developments Inc.Concord Pacific Developments Inc.
2002 - 2007 · 5 yrs2002 - 2007 · 5 yrs
Concord Pacific Developments Inc. logo
Vice PresidentVice President
Concord Pacific Developments Inc.Concord Pacific Developments Inc.
1994 - 2001 · 7 yrs1994 - 2001 · 7 yrs
Concord Pacific Developments Inc. logo
Development ManagerDevelopment Manager
Concord Pacific Developments Inc.Concord Pacific Developments Inc.
1988 - 1993 · 5 yrs

[FarmerHaight]

“The future of the Jericho Lands is this council’s Chinatown freeway movement,” says the Jericho Coalition’s handout, referring to the successful fight in 1968 to stop Vancouver’s Chinese heritage hub being ruined by a highway.

Rich, white homeowners comparing themselves to disadvantaged minorities with no political capital

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

They're building the towers. There ain't no option C for their fantasy land townhouses idea.

Shovels in the ground let's gooooo.