noirish Los Angeles

[broadwy_central_bldg]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

And here's another I just came across.

"B&W Negative: Los Angeles Railway 1548 Los Angeles, CA Undated"


http://www.ebay.com/itm/616-B-W-Nega...sAAOSwzvlW~VoN

No location (other than Los Angeles) is given.

That looks like Dick Tracy's car.

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I think we're looking at the west side of S Main St. just above Jefferson.


GSV

Note the details in the moulding on the building on the left. And the cornice of the building at middle that is raised slightly (and just barely appears over the streetcar). Finally even the fire escape and telephone poles still look the same! I think that hardware store might have survived as well; pretty nice to see nearly a full block still standing...


Screen Shot 2016-04-04 at 10.16.38 PM copy by broadway_central_building, on Flickr


Screen Shot 2016-04-04 at 10.29.39 PM by broadway_central_building, on Flickr

[MichaelRyerson]

Originally Posted by Wig-Wag

While going through my slide files this afternoon I came across this image from May, 1972. For a brief moment I though I had found a color photo of the building shown in odinthor's post below.

I quickly realized it was not the same building but also noticed that it has many of the architectural details of the building in the vintage photo. Is it possible the two buildings share the same designer/builder?

The property at the corner of Beaudry Avenue and Angelina Streets is now owned by the Edward R. Roybal Learning Center and the building is long gone.

Cheers,
Jack

Here's an aerial showing your Beaudry/Angelina building, Jack. It's fairly prominent slightly left and above center...


Aerial of Temple and Beaudry, 1948


UCLA Special Collections (detail)

[ethereal_reality]

I was wondering about Wig-Wag's building.

You're talking about this building, right M_R? (red arrow


https://www.flickr.com/photos/michae...n/26159694462/




"We're looking at the west side of S Main St. just above Jefferson." -broadway_central_bldg.


Screen Shot 2016-04-04 at 10.16.38 PM copy by broadway_central_building, on Flickr


Screen Shot 2016-04-04 at 10.29.39 PM by broadway_central_building, on Flickr[/QUOTE]

Bravo! Excellent sleuthing bcb. I'm impressed.



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[MichaelRyerson]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I was wondering about Wig-Wag's building.

You're talking about this building, right M_R? (red arrow


https://www.flickr.com/photos/michae...n/26159694462/

Yes. Posting from my phone have to be unusually brief.

[ethereal_reality]

Thanks

Originally Posted by HossC

The location is on Marmion Way.

I appreciate the clarification Hoss. I wasn't quite sure.



Here's another image of a streetcar traveling on Marmion Way. (with a spiffy red automobile)


http://www.flickriver.com/groups/perr/pool/random/

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

I often wonder, if you were an inhabitant of a house or an apartment that was next to one of these right of way lines, how much noise did these cars make
when passing by your abodes? (When this car approached this crossing, for example, was there a bell rung?) Were there any smells associated with them?
Did any lines run all night? If not, how late did they run?

Very interesting questions Martin_Pal. I've had similiar questions whenever I come across photographs like the one below.


www.davesrailpix.com

This is the recently discussed H Line again, this time at Bimini Place. [1940s]




Here's pretty much the same view today.


gsv


At a different angle I noticed that someone had painted faux-tracks where the H-Line used to run.


gsv

But then it gets even better. There are actual honest-to-goodness tracks left in the ground on the opposite side of that parked car .







Now for the confusing part (for me anyway ), when I pulled back from my top gsv to get a better angle, I noticed there are tracks curving away from the apartment building.


gsv

This set of tracks veering north are missing in the vintage slide (my top photo). Does anyone have an explanation?



Here's an aerial:
I've placed some arrows where there are still r.r. tracks in the ground.


google_earth
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Added Bonus:


The H car in the color slide is a couple dozen feet from this second curve and will eventually cross that trestle at far right.


http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics04/00011865.jpg


*maybe all this has been covered before on NLA. Even if it has, I had a great time discovering it all over again.
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[GaylordWilshire]

One of the the most memorable things about growing up in New Orleans along the St. Charles Ave line-- still running streetcars similar to those in the picture-- is the sound of the wheels grinding along the rails and screeching on curves, which you can hear from blocks away. And-- distinct loud click of power being applied to the motors and withdrawn... and the particular electrical smell of the mechanisms. Good for nostalgia, but probably not much fun to live practically on top of the tracks as in the pic...

[HossC]

Originally Posted by Wig-Wag

While going through my slide files this afternoon I came across this image from May, 1972. For a brief moment I though I had found a color photo of the building shown in odinthor's post below.

I quickly realized it was not the same building but also noticed that it has many of the architectural details of the building in the vintage photo. Is it possible the two buildings share the same designer/builder?

The property at the corner of Beaudry Avenue and Angelina Streets is now owned by the Edward R. Roybal Learning Center and the building is long gone.

The building in the picture is the Northwest Apartments at 327 North Beaudry Avenue. The name seems to have remained the same throughout its life. The new building permit is dated 1907 ...



... while the demolition permit is dated 1974.



Both from Online Building Records

Here's the same corner with all that's left of Angelina Street (misspelled Angelian Street on the 1910 Baist map). Going by Historic Aerials, Angelina Street was only truncated sometime between 1994 and 2003.


GSV

[MichaelRyerson]

Originally Posted by HossC

The building in the picture is the Northwest Apartments at 327 North Beaudry Avenue. The name seems to have remained the same throughout its life. The new building permit is dated 1907 ...



... while the demolition permit is dated 1974.



Both from Online Building Records

Here's the same corner with all that's left of Angelina Street (misspelled Angelian Street on the 1910 Baist map). Going by Historic Aerials, Angelina Street was only truncated sometime between 1994 and 2003.


GSV

Can you see any bricks? ; )

[odinthor]

Have y'all seen this image before?



From my personal collection, and originally obtained on eBay some years ago. The original piece is a four-in-one image, the four at artistic or non-artistic angles and jutting into each other to some slight degree. I've re-angled, or un-angled, this quarter of the quadruple image, banished the intrusive corner of another of the four images, and enlarged and sharpened it just a touch (though it's doomed to be ever a little fuzzy). As I'm sure you already know, we're looking south down Broadway to the northwest corner of Broadway and Temple, and the adjacent stretch of Broadway north of that corner, the photographer standing I think above and a step or two to the east of the south opening of the Broadway tunnel. If we'd pivot to the left, we'd see the Court House. The caption to the original would have it that we're looking north from Broadway and Temple; but t'ain't so. I unfortunately can't tell you the names of the horses.

[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

*maybe all this has been covered before on NLA. If it has, so be it, I had a great time discovering it all over again.

I've posted a picture of those tracks in the sidewalk before. It was a reply the picture below in post #23309 - the 'chophouse' was where the Teriyaki House is marked on the Google Earth map.

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

The seller of this photograph describes it as "1st & Vermont."

ebay

I love that 'chophouse' on the left...with it's neon signs. I think the small sign on top says HUB.

I think we visited the site again a little later, but I can't find that post at the moment.

Thanks for the other pictures though. I've been studying the views at Historic Aerials for a couple of days trying to figure out where the H-Line went when it got to the Bimini Baths side of the creek.

[HossC]

Thanks for your personal recollections of 3424 Wilshire Boulevard, lemster2024.


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Today's Julius Shulman post features the same architects and same street as the IBM building. We've seen the Signal Oil and Gas Company Building before, but not in this much detail. This is "Job 3362: Charles Luckman Associates, Signal Oil and Gas Company Building (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1962".



I've said this before, but it makes my research so much easier when the address is on the building. In this case, 1010 Wilshire Boulevard.



Here's the back of the building.



An angled view. NB. I've omitted a similar but darker shot.



And the obligatory arty shot to finish.



All from Getty Research Institute

Just a quick reminder - you can see the Signal Oil and Gas Company Building fully illuminated in a 1967 Julius Shulman image I posted in post #32200.

Now complete with rooftop swimming pool, the building has been transformed into TenTen Wilshire. I think I prefer the original design.


GSV

If, like me, you were wondering about the identity of the lost Art Deco building on the corner of St Paul Avenue, it was the 1936 Claude Beelman designed Woodbury College at 1027 Wilshire. The college moved out in 1987, and the building was demolished soon afterwards (there appears to be a demo permit dated 1989, but it's not available to view online). The destruction of the former college building seems rather ironic considering they added architecture as a major in 1984! Woodbury College has been mentioned a couple of times before on NLA, but I think this wonderful night shot is new to the thread.


USC Digital Library

[AlvaroLegido]

Originally Posted by HossC

Woodbury College has been mentioned a couple of times before on NLA, but I think this wonderful night shot is new to the thread.


USC Digital Library

No, it isn't new ! This perfect noirish photo and a building like this one (very Bauhaus) are unforgettable. I'm not able to locate it on NLA but there were several others of the building and the neighborhood.

[CityBoyDoug]

Smog in a Can....1950s era for that noir look.


photos of yesteryear

[MichaelRyerson]

Here's another image shot from basically the same angle, just a couple of years earlier...


V line 286 and R line 1375 pause on the Vermont and 1st Street loop, 1948


Los Angeles Transit Lines streetcar no.286 on Line V and streetcar no.1375 on Line R at the 1st and Vermont Loop, August 31, 1948. The street that crosses down there behind the streetcars is Bimini Place, 1st Street runs essentially parallel to the streetcars (away from the camera, to the left of the Chop House) and Vermont runs parallel to Bimini Place but behind the camera. And I love the chop house.

photo by Alan Weeks
pacificelectric.org

[Wig-Wag]

ER, HossC and Michael, Thanks for all the excellent supplementary information on the Northwest Apartments building. Great work, all!

HossC, here is a link to an H-line route description. Hopefully it will help your trace of the route which has been all but obliterated over the years.

http://www.erha.org/lary_h.htm

Cheers,
Jack

Originally Posted by HossC

The building in the picture is the Northwest Apartments at 327 North Beaudry Avenue. The name seems to have remained the same throughout its life. The new building permit is dated 1907 ...



... while the demolition permit is dated 1974.



Both from Online Building Records

Here's the same corner with all that's left of Angelina Street (misspelled Angelian Street on the 1910 Baist map). Going by Historic Aerials, Angelina Street was only truncated sometime between 1994 and 2003.


GSV

[Noircitydame]

A chance to see some Noirish LA on the big screen.
Starts Fri, Apr 15, 2016 to Sun, Apr 24, 2016
At the Egyptian Theatre, 6712 Hollywood Boulevard
(I'm not affiliated with the event)

Two of the films scheduled have an LA setting and both premiered in the city in the summer of 1949

Sat, Apr 16, 2016
TAKE ONE FALSE STEP, 1949,
William Powell (in his only noir), Shelley Winters
Intro by Eddie Muller
[Playing with ALL MY SONS (1948), Edward G. Robinson, Burt Lancaster.]



originally opened in LA June 3, 1949


Sun, Apr 24, 2016
TOO LATE FOR TEARS, 1949
Lizabeth Scott, Dan Duryea
Celebrating its DVD release next month.
This is the one with the scene of the boat rentals on West Lake.
(Lizabeth Scott & Bogie's film Dead Reckoning is also showing earlier in the festival)



Opened in LA July 27, 1949

Also showing, with an LA setting,
Sat, Apr 23, 2016
HOLLOW TRIUMPH, 1948
Paul Henreid, Joan Bennett
Henried’s daughter scheduled to be there along with Eddie Muller.
[Playing with DECEPTION (1946), Bette Davis, Paul Henreid.]


Full schedule: http://www.americancinemathequecalendar.com/content/noir-city-film-noir-festival-2016

[westcork]

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson

Here's an aerial showing your Beaudry/Angelina building, Jack. It's fairly prominent slightly left and above center...


Aerial of Temple and Beaudry, 1948

UCLA Special Collections (detail)

That's a great shot of the Rochester house at 1012 W Temple St.


Big Orange Landmarks


Big Orange Landmarks

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by westcork

That's a great shot of the Rochester house at 1012 W Temple St.

Big Orange Landmarks

Teenagers having fun watching the old house being moved to its final destination and ultimate fate. It was demolished in 1979. By that time is was beyond repair. It would be cheaper to have built a new replica.



bigorangelandmarks

[MichaelRyerson]

Originally Posted by westcork

That's a great shot of the Rochester house at 1012 W Temple St.


Big Orange Landmarks


Big Orange Landmarks

here you go...

Rochester House, W Temple Apartments, 1012 W Temple Street, 1948

The ill-fated Rochester House, larger of the two with the mansard roof.

http://bigorangelandmarks.blogspot.c...rochester.html

UCLA Special Collections (detail)