CHICAGO | Will the Sox leave US Comiskular Rate Field?

[Busy Bee]

^Was thinking the same thing. Might be a better fit. The stadium would probably need to be half demolished to reconfigure it though.

[MorganChi]

Maybe this where they can meet at the high school playoff game

[nomarandlee]

Originally Posted by MorganChi

Dave kapland who covers all of Chicago sports and who has a morning show on ESPN 1000 says he has a close source that works in white Sox organization. The source tells him the stadium is pretty much a done deal. As a bulls and bears fan I can tell you Dave Kaplan’s sources are always on the mark.


https://youtu.be/9Mi5IbBymDA

Perhaps, but the financing and who will pay are likely not settled. There is no universe I can think of where JR will not be asking for some substantial public handout. I just don't see the same man who strongarmed the city and state by threatening to move to Sarasota, suddenly turning around his modus Operandi.

[nomarandlee]

New images inside....Looks pretty darn dope. Love how the outfield lets out to the neighborhood. Very cool.

https://wgntv.com/sports/white-sox/f...ark-in-the-78/

First time renderings revealed of White Sox proposal for a new ballpark in the 78
by: Tahman Bradley, Eli Ong, Jenna Barnes, Michael Johnson

Posted: Feb 7, 2024 / 05:25 PM CST

....In the article, Hinz said Reinsdorf is reportedly eyeing the same financial source from the ISFA for a potential new baseball stadium in the South Loop, and it’s not clear if ISFA funds from an existing 2% tax on Chicago hotel revenues would be sufficient to cover both projects.....

Bill Jackson, executive director of Discovery Partners Institute, told the Sun-Times he’s heard the White Sox have interest in The 78 and that a new ballpark and the institute would work well together sharing the land.

However, a Chicago developer familiar with the property and requesting anonymity told the Sun-Times the institute has been trying to get out of the deal and that there wouldn’t be enough room for both the institute and a new ballpark within The 78, anyway.

But veteran Chicago-based stadium consultant Marc Ganis disagreed with that assessment, telling the Sun-Times that about 12 to 14 acres would be required to build a baseball-only stadium that seats 35,000 or so, plus another three acres for a parking structure that would hold around 7,000 cars.....

[Steely Dan]

Dope.

As.

Hell.




But money?????????????

[CaptainJilliams]

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[BVictor1]

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/spor...ect-renderings


Might as well post the renderings. All Credit: Related Midwest

[Randomguy34]

^ additional renderings from Sun-Times of the current stadium being repurposed into a soccer stadium surrounded by 1,300 units of new development




https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-s...soccer-stadium

[r18tdi]

Interesting, definitely more cohesive that what's currently around Sox Park. Personally, I would like to see more height/density closest to the 35th Street Redline. But that's just me.

[nomarandlee]

If the Sox move to the 78
If the Bears move near McCormick Place/A.H.
If the Fire move to 35th and Shields

It does leave open up a pretty darn important matter of what will happen to Soldier Field.
Does the city still scale it down and use it as an effective replacement for the Northerly Island music venue (which was always supposed to be temporary?). Does it open up one of the entry corridors to make it effectively an open stadium? The amenities (particularly on the east side of the stadium) seem too great just to tear down SF to the stubs and colonnades, converting it to "parkland" as some have called for.

[bnk]

Mabey the city could sell it to Tayor Swift and she could throw a concert there every weekend in the summer.


https://twitter.com/SoldierField/sta...29266530463747


https://twitter.com/SoldierField/sta...81825306271745

Those 3 nights were bigger for the city than one would expect. It sold out every hotel room in the city all the way out to O'hare with many coming from out of state.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=IomwpTqCIAk



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/taylor-...ch-money-made/

"Taylor Swift is a force to be reckoned with," ... "The economic impact Swift creates is staggering, as fans travel from far and wide to attend her concerts, filling hotels, restaurants, and local attractions. Swift's influence on tourism is a testament to her ability to captivate audiences and drive economic growth."

Don't mess with Swifties. They are an enormously large and powerful lobby.

[BVictor1]

Another render of what the area around 35th could look like.

[rgarri4]

Opinion: Keep the White Sox in Bridgeport and remedy a legacy of neglect

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/opin...-field-opinion

[twister244]

Jesus,

I am all for seeing renderings of shiny mega developments in the city, but this is getting to be a bit much. What is this a rendering of now? Another potential Sox Stadium pitch?......... What's more irritating is so many of these projects are increasingly struggling to get off the ground. In no order:
1 - Lincoln Yards - Stalled with one bio science building built
2 - 78 - A building (or two?) getting off the ground with the possibility of a Sox (or Bears?) stadium.....
3 - Casino development - Stalled
4 - MR - Who knows
5 - Now this?.... Whatever the above render is?

It's becoming the Boy who Cried Wolf.....

[Busy Bee]

I'll take it.

Loving the Dan Ryan cap, but honestly that's probably the most unlikely element.

[rgarri4]

Originally Posted by twister244

Jesus,

I am all for seeing renderings of shiny mega developments in the city, but this is getting to be a bit much. What is this a rendering of now? Another potential Sox Stadium pitch?......... What's more irritating is so many of these projects are increasingly struggling to get off the ground. In no order:
1 - Lincoln Yards - Stalled with one bio science building built
2 - 78 - A building (or two?) getting off the ground with the possibility of a Sox (or Bears?) stadium.....
3 - Casino development - Stalled
4 - MR - Who knows
5 - Now this?.... Whatever the above render is?

It's becoming the Boy who Cried Wolf.....

Your right. We should just stop. lol

[BrickellBased]

You forgot about O'Hare.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/city-ha...lights-chicago

As O’Hare expansion price tag climbs, airport’s two biggest carriers want project scaled back – or grounded

Construction costs are high.

If they can't afford Gang's design, good thing they didn't go with Calatrava.

A bit ironic that given all the difficulties with major projects that the one project that did get off the ground was the old Spire site lol.

Originally Posted by rgarri4

Your right. We should just stop. lol

[twister244]

Originally Posted by BrickellBased

You forgot about O'Hare.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/city-ha...lights-chicago



Construction costs are high.

If they can't afford Gang's design, good thing they didn't go with Calatrava.

A bit ironic that given all the difficulties with major projects that the one project that did get off the ground was the old Spire site lol.

O'hare is a completely different animal....... Not to derail this thread, but that's a project the airlines want, and it will get built - We just don't know exactly what's going to be fleshed out in the coming days/weeks.

Everything in the city I listed are these shiny mega projects that require a ton of capital and a case for building them. At some point, the powers that be should focus on one or two, not this ever growing laundry list of potential projects. It's just starting to feel like people flashing renderings/ideas around to get attention and headlines.

[ardecila]

Whether the megaprojects happen or not is kinda besides the point. The city can only really control the supply side, not the demand side. From the mayor's standpoint, the most important thing is making sure that zoning and approvals are in place so that downtown and the neighborhoods can continue to grow as quickly as demand allows, and making sure these new areas are planned correctly so they don't degenerate into suburban, traffic-choked crap. Some policies may boost growth or slow it down, but really you're at the mercy of broader cultural and demographic forces.

For a megaproject like The 78, Related has done a great job master-planning the site with top urban designers. Now the city just needs to hold them to their end of the bargain, even if Related ends up handing it off to someone else and it doesn't get built out for 20+ years.

There's nothing in Chicago history to suggest these sites get built out overnight. The area east of Michigan Avenue (now called Illinois Center and Lakeshore East) has taken 75 years to approach buildout, from the opening of Pru-1 to the completion of Cirrus/Cascade. In that time, the vision has been adjusted - first office districts, then hotels, then highrise apartments. First the Pedway was gonna be the lifeblood of the area, then it got flipped to encourage more life on the street above ground.

[rgarri4]

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