Phoenix | Central Station Towers 1 & 2 | 372 FT | 32 Floors & 230 FT | 22 Floors - Page 17

combusean · #**321** Posted **Jun 4, 2020, 1:20 AM**

I don't see a hotel in that iteration, and that schematic is the first I've seen that is a schematic, so it doesn't look like they're proceeding with the hotel.

And this is like 3 weeks after the rendering went up for 37 stories! How do they even do this so fast? These kinds of proforma calculations are incredibly complex so maybe it's the Texas summer? Wtf!

I can't remember, was the inclusion of the hotel material to their RFP?

BA744PHX · #**322** Posted **Jun 4, 2020, 1:52 AM**

QUOTECrestedSaguaro Here's everything I have on Central Station: https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...vx?usp=sharing

Thanks for the details, it shows the tower at 406, hopefully it keeps

PHXFlyer11 · #**323** Posted **Jun 4, 2020, 1:57 AM**

Ugh. I knew it. They just reverted the web site quickly until the revised plans were official.

I think the city should say no thanks -- we can do better. I'm okay with waiting a few more years. It's not so much the height for me, but the elimination of the second tower -- it's the density (or lack there of) that bothers me more.

Phxguy · #**324** Posted **Jun 4, 2020, 5:40 AM**

I think it's too early to say the second tower is nixed altogether. That's such a huge element to eliminate, something like ~300,000+ sqft of the project plus retail and the transportation office which is required per RFP. I believe the schematic is only showing the East Tower so its clean, legible, and less confusing.

Obadno · #**325** Posted **Jun 4, 2020, 6:31 AM**

This lot is cursed

IndyAZ · #**326** Posted **Jun 4, 2020, 11:20 AM**

That image is a section cut running N/S, so it just doesn't show the second tower. It has not been eliminated, it is still part of the project. The only fluctuation is the main tower, which could be anywhere from 30 to 37 stores.

That section does show the main tower at 32, but another newer looking rendering looks to be 34, and another one from a couple months ago (still on the website) along with the all the text still lists it at 37, so I guess time will tell...

CrestedSaguaro · #**327** Posted **Jun 4, 2020, 3:34 PM**

Maybe someone could email the contact for the development and ask?

Also, the website is designed and hosted by web.com which means they are only paid to put up whatever stuff they receive by Medistar. Any of the information on the site should only be taken with a grain of salt and the website admin most likely doesn't know anything about the development other than what they receive which could be a mix of information.

Mr.RE · #**328** Posted **Jun 4, 2020, 5:05 PM**

I thought this was supposed to include an 18 story tower for student housing? Or is that scrapped now that the ASU dorm is going up?

combusean · #**329** Posted **Jun 4, 2020, 5:08 PM**

They didn't scrap it, they're just showing the first tower's schematic.

Mr.RE · #**330** Posted **Jun 4, 2020, 5:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by combusean

They didn't scrap it, they're just showing the first tower's schematic.

Thanks for the clarification, Moderator sir

Ballister · #**331** Posted **Jun 4, 2020, 6:24 PM**

[QUOTE=CrestedSaguaro;8942358]Maybe someone could email the contact for the development and ask?

Perhaps you should email them or is your email down?

biggus diggus · #**332** Posted **Jun 4, 2020, 6:27 PM**

[QUOTE=Ballister;8942630]

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Originally Posted by CrestedSaguaro

Maybe someone could email the contact for the development and ask?

Perhaps you should email them or is your email down?

I remember showing crested saguaro how to look stuff up on the assesor's website and check permits on the city's website, he went off and running with it and figured out how to email city employees for records, but emailing the developer is where he draws the line.

ASU Diablo · #**333** Posted **Jun 4, 2020, 6:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by biggus diggus

I remember showing crested saguaro how to look stuff up on the assesor's website and check permits on the city's website, he went off and running with it and figured out how to email city employees for records, but emailing the developer is where he draws the line.

Your dress is showing again Biggus. JFC, instead of giving props to Crested for all the excellent contributions he's provided over the last couple of days, wtf have you done to contribute lately? Besides getting into these little squabbles and constantly defending your little BF, Matt.

biggus diggus · #**334** Posted **Jun 4, 2020, 6:34 PM**

Relax, pal.

If you can't see the irony there then I can't help you. This isn't a me vs. you scenario but if you want me to remind you how many dozens of hours I spent on that rundown thread and getting that level of organization done only to have it ignored then I will. I gave you all a centralized place to have all your updates and list all projects in an easy to read fashion. I think I can say I put my work in.

ASU Diablo · #**335** Posted **Jun 4, 2020, 6:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by biggus diggus

Relax, pal.

If you can't see the irony there then I can't help you.

Oh, I get the irony in both of the posts LOL that in the same time it took to type out these witty and sarcastic replies, one of you could've easily emailed Medistar for clarification on what we are all trying to confirm. And yes, the irony is not escaping me that I'm basically doing the same thing

Put my money where my mouth is and emailed James. Let's see what he says...

CrestedSaguaro · #**336** Posted **Jun 4, 2020, 7:53 PM**

[QUOTE=biggus diggus;8942635]

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Originally Posted by Ballister

I remember showing crested saguaro how to look stuff up on the assesor's website and check permits on the city's website, he went off and running with it and figured out how to email city employees for records, but emailing the developer is where he draws the line.

Sean can feel free to ban me for my comments here because frankly I have had enough of you ass-hat.

First off, you only provided the assessor website. You DID NOT SHOW ME HOW to look up anything and I was already well aware of how to make a public records request well before you were ever here. Again, why don't YOU MAKE AN EFFORT and try researching something? You don't provide anything on this forum and only provide snide witty remarks towards other forum members and then get pissed off when they have their own opinion that is not the same as yours.

I have done more than enough on this site and I have spent countless hours of researching these things, uploading them to Imgur, putting them on my Google drive and then posting them here for everyone's knowledge. Many others here have done the same...except you. If you have time to make smart-ass shitty comments towards others on here, then you can spend a few minutes of your precious time sending an email.

Oh and all the stuff you spent "countless hours" putting together in the rundown thread, most of that stuff was provided by other forumers. Not any of it was stuff you actually researched and contributed. As I said yesterday...riding the backs of others.

Sean, I'll just do you a favor and see my own way out the door.

gymratmanaz · #**337** Posted **Jun 4, 2020, 7:57 PM**

Crested....you truly have added so much so quickly. THANKS!!!!!!!!

ASU Diablo · #**338** Posted **Jun 4, 2020, 8:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by CrestedSaguaro

Sean can feel free to ban me for my comments here because frankly I have had enough of you ass-hat.

First off, you only provided the assessor website. You DID NOT SHOW ME HOW to look up anything and I was already well aware of how to make a public records request well before you were ever here. Again, why don't YOU MAKE AN EFFORT and try researching something? You don't provide anything on this forum and only provide snide witty remarks towards other forum members and then get pissed off when they have their own opinion that is not the same as yours.

I have done more than enough on this site and I have spent countless hours of researching these things, uploading them to Imgur, putting them on my Google drive and then posting them here for everyone's knowledge. Many others here have done the same...except you. If you have time to make smart-ass shitty comments towards others on here, then you can spend a few minutes of your precious time sending an email.

Oh and all the stuff you spent "countless hours" putting together in the rundown thread, most of that stuff was provided by other forumers. Not any of it was stuff you actually researched and contributed. As I said yesterday...riding the backs of others.

Sean, I'll just do you a favor and see my own way out the door.

Crested - I understand your frustration with Biggus because I've had my share of squabbles with him. I truly agree with you 100%, including that Biggus is an ass hat. He's been warned many a times by Sean to knock it off and yet he continues with his little BS witty remarks.

I really hope you reconsider staying in these forums and sharing all the excellent content due to your countless hours of research. The majority of us in this forum value all the work you put in, don't let a small contingent of idiots distract you from this.

ASU Diablo · #**339** Posted **Jun 4, 2020, 8:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by ASU Diablo

Oh, I get the irony in both of the posts LOL that in the same time it took to type out these witty and sarcastic replies, one of you could've easily emailed Medistar for clarification on what we are all trying to confirm. And yes, the irony is not escaping me that I'm basically doing the same thing

Put my money where my mouth is and emailed James. Let's see what he says...

Pretty quick response from James:

"The project is still a work in progress. Will you kindly ping me again at the end of this month, and I should have more to tell you."

So stay tuned I guess...

biggus diggus · #**340** Posted **Jun 4, 2020, 8:26 PM**

Saguaro, if I tell you that you did a great job and give you a round of applause and tell you that you're prettier than the other girls will you stop turning something I enjoy into a competition?

I'll just go back to reading like I have since the early 2000s before I joined. I hope that will bring you great joy.