PHILADELPHIA | Lowrise/General Developments Thread II - Page 62

Gatorade_Jim · #**1221** Posted **Apr 21, 2023, 1:53 AM**

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Calder Musem Site

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Broad & Ridge

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Something occurring at Old McDonald's site Broad & Girard

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Proposed construction site on Spring Garden

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Construction Progress at 10th and Spring Garden

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Delaware Ave & Fairmount

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Delaware Ave & Canal St

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City of cranes

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Spring Garden & Delaware Ave AKA Festival Pier

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by Tony Valuez, on Flickr

Will this Development ever be finished with the last two remaining towers unbuilt?

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Amazing shots. Thanks so much for posting these!

PHL10 · #**1222** Posted **Apr 21, 2023, 1:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by TonyTone

Will this Development ever be finished with the last two remaining towers unbuilt?

by Tony Valuez, on Flickr

I think at this point, ditching the high-rises and just building a couple mid-rises may make the most sense.

Also, great photo updates Tony! Thanks!

jaysb · #**1223** Posted **Apr 21, 2023, 6:00 PM**

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I think at this point, ditching the high-rises and just building a couple mid-rises may make the most sense.

Also, great photo updates Tony! Thanks!

I think these were built before the Delaware River Planning Commission released their guidance which called for more mid-rises to have more people over a bigger area. Don't know that for certain tho.

Also, nice to see the Calder installation moving forward, feels pretty quick for a City or Gov sponsored work.

thx for the pics.

SouthCentralPA · #**1224** Posted **Apr 23, 2023, 2:46 AM**

Great photos Tony!

Gatorade_Jim · #**1225** Posted **Apr 24, 2023, 3:25 PM**

https://www.bizjournals.com/philadel...bGq1ptdPf5c68I

jaysb · #**1226** Posted **Apr 24, 2023, 4:00 PM**

Cruised by Broad and Washington today, didn't snag a pic but some good progress.
That thing sits right up on Broad, going to be nice when done! Nice and high first floor ceilings, should have some quality retail.

SEFTA · #**1227** Posted **Apr 24, 2023, 4:11 PM**

Game changer!

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ScreamShatter · #**1228** Posted **Apr 24, 2023, 5:02 PM**

Del Ave between Spring Garden and York is going to be completely different. Wish they would do something with the old World Trade Center site to connect it all to Penn’s Landing.

BroadandMarket · #**1229** Posted **Apr 24, 2023, 6:01 PM**

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Del Ave between Spring Garden and York is going to be completely different. Wish they would do something with the old World Trade Center site to connect it all to Penn’s Landing.

It's so disappointing Durst delayed their tower. That lot is still a glaring eyesore in a rapidly developing area. They put so much work into the foundation already so hopefully that bodes well for it getting off the ground sooner rather than later.

DeltaNerd · #**1230** Posted **Apr 24, 2023, 6:13 PM**

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It's so disappointing Durst delayed their tower. That lot is still a glaring eyesore in a rapidly developing area. They put so much work into the foundation already so hopefully that bodes well for it getting off the ground sooner rather than later.

Did Durst also delay/cancel the project for the Penns Landing waterfront towers? By the ice rink

PHL10 · #**1231** Posted **Apr 24, 2023, 6:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by SEFTA

Game changer!

I was looking for a different phrase to communicate the impact of that development but I think I have to agree with you. It is a gamer changer.

Jayfar · #**1232** Posted **Apr 24, 2023, 6:28 PM**

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Delaware Ave & Canal St

by Tony Valuez, on Flickr

Just this morning at P.I.C.H. Paul Steinke posted for #MundaneMonday the surviving Wells Meat “Cow” building at the north end of the block, 982-88 N Delaware Ave (seen in the distance in second photo here). I think earlier plans would have taken that building as well, but thankfully the owner didn’t sell. I believe Wells Meat had at one time also occupied a larger portion of the complex.

I would have much rather have seen an adaptive reuse/overbuild here and this developer does have some track record at adaptive reuse.

Discussion at P.I.C.H.: https://www.facebook.com/groups/Phil...88609808094314
Earlier discussion: https://www.facebook.com/groups/Phil...2589299363042/

chimpskibot · #**1233** Posted **Apr 24, 2023, 6:40 PM**

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https://www.bizjournals.com/philadel...bGq1ptdPf5c68I

Based on this article it seems PMC is waiting to see how well 23rd and JFK does before commencing on the TJ parking lot. I have a feeling if 23rd and jfk leases as fast as River walk we may see the TJ project start in the two years.

Gatorade_Jim · #**1234** Posted **Apr 24, 2023, 8:57 PM**

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Based on this article it seems PMC is waiting to see how well 23rd and JFK does before commencing on the TJ parking lot. I have a feeling if 23rd and jfk leases as fast as River walk we may see the TJ project start in the two years.

That would make sense. Once the TJs lot is built it's pretty much just the PECO lot and the overbuild of the tracks that's left north of Market I believe. I would imagine they want to keep the PECO lot for a bigger project so maybe we see the overbuild first. Who knows

McBane · #**1235** Posted **Apr 24, 2023, 9:18 PM**

Before asking when the rest of Waterfront Square will be developed, how about when will the existing towers finish getting built? The tops of those buildings are a fucking embarrassment.

arkitect13 · #**1236** Posted **Apr 25, 2023, 1:28 AM**

So have we heard anything about this since like 2021? https://www.ocfrealty.com/naked-phil...-foxwoods-site

The giant got built but the lack of progress on the residential/mixed use portion along the river annoys me

chimpskibot · #**1237** Posted **Apr 25, 2023, 1:33 AM**

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Originally Posted by arkitect13

So have we heard anything about this since like 2021? https://www.ocfrealty.com/naked-phil...-foxwoods-site

The giant got built but the lack of progress on the residential/mixed use portion along the river annoys me

According to this agent the guy who runs rising.realestate the lots and associated projects are for sale.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CrBcX9kLNBq/

BroadandMarket · #**1238** Posted **Apr 25, 2023, 2:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by arkitect13

So have we heard anything about this since like 2021? https://www.ocfrealty.com/naked-phil...-foxwoods-site

The giant got built but the lack of progress on the residential/mixed use portion along the river annoys me

I wonder if the 76ers would ever consider this site if they can't get 11th and Market or another Center City location done? Of course there is no public transit but it would jumpstart a Delaware Ave light rail line. I'd still rather 11th and Market, 8th and Market, Roundhouse or somewhere in Callowhill.

arkitect13 · #**1239** Posted **Apr 25, 2023, 5:20 PM**

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I wonder if the 76ers would ever consider this site if they can't get 11th and Market or another Center City location done? Of course there is no public transit but it would jumpstart a Delaware Ave light rail line. I'd still rather 11th and Market, 8th and Market, Roundhouse or somewhere in Callowhill.

Actually that's really smart, down here especially in declining industrial areas could be amazing, 95 separates it from the neighborhood, and it could jumpstart new transit etc

3rd&Brown · #**1240** Posted **Apr 25, 2023, 8:08 PM**

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Actually that's really smart, down here especially in declining industrial areas could be amazing, 95 separates it from the neighborhood, and it could jumpstart new transit etc

It would be a cluster f*ck. So, going from the most transit accessible site in all of downtown to one that is entirely car dependent and worse accessibility to/from 95 than the current site? It would be an absolute nightmare for Pennsport and Queen Village.

Every single person would have to come or go to the site on Delaware Avenue as there are no other arterials and in a car no less.

It would not jump start anything.