Halifax Developments List & Map - Page 9

macgregor · #**161** Posted **Feb 1, 2012, 7:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dmajackson

Okay I have spent wayyy too much time lately trying to update this damn list. I think after hours of research and restructuring I finally got everything up-to-date but its been an uphill battle trying to stay on top of all the new projects and update the under construction ones.

If someone can go back through a double check the list with their knowledge I beg you to do so.

Oh and if anybody wants to take up updating the maps I will gladly buy you a two-four of your favourite beer!

Good job. Looks about right. There's definitely too much going on in Bedford and Larry Uteck to keep up with it.

worldlyhaligonian · #**162** Posted **Mar 12, 2012, 10:01 PM**

The Craigmore drive development could be moved to U/C, excavation.

worldlyhaligonian · #**163** Posted **Mar 27, 2012, 12:09 AM**

Citadel Hotel and Craigmore should be moved to U/C.

someone123 · #**164** Posted **Mar 27, 2012, 6:23 AM**

Demolition is starting, but are the new Citadel towers approved yet?

There are different standards for "under construction". One standard is site prep, and another is actual foundation work. When I update the thread titles I tend to look at a minimum of approval + site prep, mostly because lots of stuff can go wrong with the approval process.

Jonovision · #**165** Posted **Mar 27, 2012, 12:00 PM**

I'm fairly certain that all the approvals are in order for the Citadel.

fenwick16 · #**166** Posted **Mar 27, 2012, 9:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by someone123

Demolition is starting, but are the new Citadel towers approved yet?

There are different standards for "under construction". One standard is site prep, and another is actual foundation work. When I update the thread titles I tend to look at a minimum of approval + site prep, mostly because lots of stuff can go wrong with the approval process.

Yes, this was approved a couple of months ago through the HRM_by_Design process - http://thechronicleherald.ca/busines...-redevelopment

worldlyhaligonian · #**167** Posted **Mar 28, 2012, 1:35 PM**

And because its a hotel and the financing is secured... demolition is the first step toward construction.

Sooo happy this one made it under the radar. Pretty funny consider how much the Drum condos has gone through iterations.

Wishblade · #**168** Posted **Mar 28, 2012, 3:30 PM**

Im willing to bet a lot of the people who would have protested this probably have no idea its even happening. I can't wait to see their reaction when a crane or 2 pops up so close to citadel hill. These are in such a high location in the downtown that they'll probably look massive from the waterfront/bridge.

someone123 · #**169** Posted **Mar 28, 2012, 7:11 PM**

One big advantage of the Citadel development is that it's not close to any houses. Drum and its predecessor had complaints coming from residents around Falkland/Maynard, but then again it's not clear how those affected the development process. As far as I know all of the problems with the Drum site have been related to red tape (zoning and HbD requirements).

fenwick16 · #**170** Posted **Mar 29, 2012, 1:55 AM**

According to a story in the allnovascotia.com on March 26th, 2012 (Cunard Block Call Expected Soon, by Andrew MacDonald), the Waterfront Development Corp expects to issue a proposal call for a $75 million dollar rsidential tower on Lower Water Street in May or June of this year. Michael Napier is doing initial design work along with Ekistics for a 20 storey apartment building which could go ahead in 2013. Here is a link for the building location - http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=halifax...1,40.3,,0,4.91 (between Bishop's Landing and the newly renovated NSPI headquarters). The story states that the tower would go to the allowable height under HRM_by_Design bylaws.

I am not sure how a 20 storey tower could be built at this site without a special agreement since it appears to me that the HRM_by_Design height map only permits 39 meters pre-bonus height (about 12 storeys) and 49 meters post-bonus height (15 - 16 storeys). However, I don't see any reason for it not to go this high since it will be hidden behind the Maritime Centre when viewed from the Citadel.

someone123 · #**171** Posted **Mar 29, 2012, 2:48 AM**

I was wondering about that too, but maybe there is some reason why they can go higher.

In any case it will be an important project since the NSP office and other parts of the southern waterfront have come so far along over the past few years. It's important for that stretch to be tied in with Bishop's Landing and, eventually, the northern part of the waterfront. Right now the waterfront still has a disjointed "buildings in parking lots" feel. The Alexander, if built, should also help substantially.

eastcoastal · #**172** Posted **Mar 29, 2012, 10:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by fenwick16

According to a story in the allnovascotia.com on March 26th, 2012 (Cunard Block Call Expected Soon, by Andrew MacDonald), the Waterfront Development Corp expects to issue a proposal call for a $75 million dollar rsidential tower on Lower Water Street in May or June of this year. Michael Napier is doing initial design work along with Ekistics for a 20 storey apartment building ... I am not sure how a 20 storey tower could be built at this site without a special agreement since it appears to me that the HRM_by_Design height map only permits 39 meters pre-bonus height...

I think your interpretation of the maximum allowable heights is correct, so this is likely sloppy reporting. Anyone write and ask AllNS if, in the course of their reporting, they compared the 20-storey height with HRMbyDesign rules?

eastcoastal · #**173** Posted **Mar 29, 2012, 10:52 AM**

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Originally Posted by Wishblade

Im willing to bet a lot of the people who would have protested this probably have no idea its even happening. I can't wait to see their reaction when a crane or 2 pops up so close to citadel hill. These are in such a high location in the downtown that they'll probably look massive from the waterfront/bridge.

I doubt they missed it. They'll protest pretty much anything. Maybe they meant it all those times they argued that anything over 3 stories downtown should be at Cogswell?

fenwick16 · #**174** Posted **Jul 8, 2012, 4:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dmajackson

This thread is mainly a list of all proposals (approved/proposed/under construction/recently completed) within HRM. If I forgot any or if any new ones appear please p.m. me or post it here and I'll add it to the list.

MAPS:
Original Google Map with Projects and Districts shown
Developments - HRM by Design
Developments - Halifax
Developments - Dartmouth
Developments - Suburbs

All Information As Of: July 7th, 2012
Number of Projects With Cranes: 20 (17 listed, 3 unlisted)*
Total Number of Cranes: 20

Com - Complete
DA - Development Agreement
Dem - Demolition
PH - Public Hearing
PIM - Public Information Meeting
UC - Under Construction
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full posting - http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=154160

Good work Dmajackson. Thanks for all of your work on the compilation thread; I use it regularly to look up development proposals.

I see that you changed the format. One thing that I couldn't find quickly was the colour legend, which I was able to find on your posted maps. I think the legend is:

Red = Proposed
Yellow = Approved
Green = Under Construction
Blue = Recently Completed
Purple = Recently Abandoned

Dmajackson · #**175** Posted **Jul 9, 2012, 4:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dmajackson

All Information As Of: July 7th, 2012
Number of Projects With Cranes: 21 (17 listed, 4 unlisted)*
Total Number of Cranes: 21

RED (Red) - Proposed/Planned
ORANGE (Orange) - Approved/In Sales/Site Prep/Recently Approved
GREEN (Green) - Under Construction (Construction Permit to First Occupancy)
BLUE (Blue) - Recently Completed (Stays in this category for six months following completion of construction)
PURPLE (Purple) - Rejected/Abandoned/Outdated/Expired (Stays in this category for six months following announcement date)

Com - Complete
DA - Development Agreement
Dem - Demolition
PH - Public Hearing
PIM - Public Information Meeting
UC - Under Construction

- With a known height: Height (m) -> Name ; Without a known height: Floors -> Name
- Blank spaces (_) and asterisks (*) indicate not applicable or unknown
- Asterisks (*) are also used as place holders (to keep projects lined up) and as construction crane markers (if at the end of the entry)

HAPPY FOURTH BIRTHDAY HALIFAX COMPILATION LIST!!!

In preperation of this event I have reformatted the list be a bit more interesting and quick to read.

Some new features are the colour coding system (see legend at top), ranking of height on a community basis (Peninsula, Mainland, ect), links to HRM Planning website (Case # underlined if available), and links to the project's website (last column underlined if available).

I have quoted only the "core" area projects to save space. Please see the first post in this thread for a listing of all of the projects.

Crane listings are based on as accurate information as I can get (personal visits to sites). However cranes are moving almost weekly in Halifax now so some may be recorded inaccurately.

I of course welcome any feedback on these changes and any possible errors or omissions.

fenwick16 · #**176** Posted **Jul 9, 2012, 10:44 PM**

Very few people know HRM better than you Dmajackson. You should seriously consider running as a Councillor. (and eventually the Mayor)

Dmajackson · #**177** Posted **Jul 11, 2012, 12:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by fenwick16

Very few people know HRM better than you Dmajackson. You should seriously consider running as a Councillor. (and eventually the Mayor)

Thanks for the comments, Fenwick.

Its good to see some interest in the list coming from Halifax. Apparently posting anything that shows Halifax as a strong, booming city is shunned upon in the national section (Canadian Proposals thread to be exact).

someone123 · #**178** Posted **Jul 11, 2012, 5:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dmajackson

Its good to see some interest in the list coming from Halifax. Apparently posting anything that shows Halifax as a strong, booming city is shunned upon in the national section (Canadian Proposals thread to be exact).

There are some forumers who are great and take an interest in many different places, but some others are incredibly parochial and either dismiss information about other places or find a way to turn it into hometown boasting. It was actually much worse when I first joined (2001) for Halifax in particular because it had a kind of "welfare fishing village" reputation that has since mostly evaporated.

For the compilation thread though I will say that it's pretty technical and all text -- it doesn't mean much to people who know very little about Halifax, and a lot of people don't read text at all (ever notice on the forum how you'll get 8 people in a row saying the same thing in different posts?). People respond better to pictures.

MonctonRad · #**179** Posted **Jul 12, 2012, 2:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by Dmajackson

Thanks for the comments, Fenwick.

Its good to see some interest in the list coming from Halifax. Apparently posting anything that shows Halifax as a strong, booming city is shunned upon in the national section (Canadian Proposals thread to be exact).

It's good to see you posting again Bedford, you took a little hiatus there for a few months. It's good to see you back!

cormiermax · #**180** Posted **Jul 12, 2012, 2:47 AM**

Indeed, it's great to have you back!